Any comments on these stones?

[leapinghorse]

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamond.asp?cid=131&item=1056052

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamond.asp?cid=131&item=879940.

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamond.asp?cid=131&item=1036072


Particularly, point out if there is anything that jumps out at you that I should worry about. I am still in the learning stage and all of these seem to idicate some value when comparing the price to other stones of similar size. Just wondering if I am missing anything or what I may not be considering.

Thanks again everyone. It''s a lot of info to digest but I must admit I am having fun!

 

[Ellen]

Hi lh,

The first has a very thin girdle, not so good. Could chip more easily.

Second one has much potential, no glaring problems!

Third one is facing up a bit small, the girdle has a bit much variation, but most of all, not good crown and pavillion angles.


I''d ask for an IS and Sarin on the second one, looks good so far.

 

[leapinghorse]

Thanks for looking.

What is meant by "facing up a bit small"? What should you look for in crown and pav angles?

 

[hikerchick]

facing up small usually means that for that carat size it is a smaller diameter (size) than would be expected from a well cut diamond, so you are paying for carat weight that you won't see in size.

ETA: I believe this is usually due to the carat weight being hidden by a deeper stone

 

[leapinghorse]

Thanks for the info. Is there a method you use when determining what the diameter should be based on carat?

Also, in the second stone if you look at the magnified image you can see a fairly large inclusion both at 8x and 16x. Do you think this is large enough to be seen without magnification?

 

[Ellen]

You''re welcome. And yes there is.

https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/mm-to-carat-stone-conversion-chart.17578/


Also, you need to have Jim at James Allen look at the stone and see if it''s eyeclean. This one may not be, but you just can''t tell from photos. I was in a hurry and forgot to tell you that, sorry.

Maybe ask that first, before the other info, then we''ll go from there.

 

[kcoursolle]

Number 1, ex thin to thin girdle scares me...

Number 2, specs look awesome. I would ask about the nature of the inclusion and how eye-clean this stone is from 2 inches, 6 inches, 12 inches...

Number 3, pavillion angle is off and the images aren''t great.

Out of the three, I''d go for number 2 if it''s eye-clean or really close. Beautiful stone!

If it''s not eye-clean, I''d keep trying. You can easily drop down to an H if you need to.