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jeweln

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Hello PSers ,
I just turned 49 . I am looking for an eye cream (started getting under eye bags ) , & a neck cream (started getting Turkey lines ) . I tried Strivectin neck cream for a few months , nothing happened except some irritation . I have sensitive acne prone skin . I am trying Estee Lauder eye night repair these days but no results yet . Please share what works for you ?
 

jaysonsmom

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Perfect timing! I'm in the market for the same 2 things. I'm turning 46 soon, and have always used great skincare due to my cousin being in the skincare business (until recently). I have used Neostrata for my eyes, and I have to say it works great. I may try their neck cream too. It is pricey though. The 0.5 fl. oz. Eye serum lasts me about 2-3 months used sparingly, and is $70 USD.

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I have tried all kinds of eye creams and none of them have done a thing except cause irritation with regular use. I would think seeing a dermatologist might yield more effective results, but I have other health concerns and don't want to add another specialist right now. :eek2:

I'm currently using Hada Labo products, specifically the HA moist lotion and hydrating milk. They are the only things that don't irritate my skin at the moment. I use them on my face and neck. Then add a moisturizer on top, or spritz on some Caudalie Grape water. There are so few products that don't irritate my skin, but I can count on Hada Labo. They are about $15 a bottle and last a long time.
 

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I use trentinoin cream from the derm aka retin A, I also use Olay products for the last 35 years. I use Olaf Hendrickson vit c serum and hyaluronic acid serum. Sometimes a feel like a piece of leather being tanned for a purse. I have fantastic skin genes.
 

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Jaysonsmom
Thanks for the tip about Neosttrata . l will try a sample to see how it feels.
Lyra
I also tried lots of creams but mostly they
irritated my skin and didn't work . I will look into the Hada Labo products. Did you try Roc eye cream ? I heard good reviews .
Aprilbaby
I used Retin A cream on my face in the past for acne for a few months .it worked but irritated my skin and made me sun sensitive too .so l stopped. I never used Olay products thinking they are basically a moisturizer. I think l will give them a try .
 

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Unfortunately, no cream will effectively reverse or even delay the signs of aging you mentioned. Indeed, under eye bags and turkey lines are caused by weakening muscles and fat ptosis (droop).

I wish it weren’t so, but that’s the blunt and honest truth, and this coming from the horse’s mouth. :(2

The most effective methods of prevention include sun avoidance and protection (spf30+), smoking cessation, Botox/Dysport, and an overall healthy lifestyle.

That being said, if you were to use a cream to aid in fine wrinkles, it would be most helpful if it contained retinoic acid (Retin-A).
 

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ame

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Unfortunately, no cream will effectively reverse or even delay the signs of aging you mentioned. Indeed, under eye bags and turkey lines are caused by weakening muscles and fat ptosis (droop).

I wish it weren’t so, but that’s the blunt and honest truth, and this coming from the horse’s mouth. :(2

The most effective methods of prevention include sun avoidance and protection (spf30+), smoking cessation, Botox/Dysport, and an overall healthy lifestyle.

That being said, if you were to use a cream to aid in fine wrinkles, it would be most helpful if it contained retinoic acid (Retin-A).
I have been on Retin-A since age 14, and my eye area sadly is starting to show it anyway. I did start getting botox this year though. I am considering some fillers also.
 

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I have been on Retin-A since age 14, and my eye area sadly is starting to show it anyway. I did start getting botox this year though. I am considering some fillers also.

For the under eye area, short of doing a lower blepharoplasty (lower eyelid surgery/lift to debulk and/or redrape the orbital fat), one could alternatively use temporary, less invasive (albeit less effective) methods such as fillers or CO2 laser.

The effects would be less dramatic and longlasting (requiring maintenance every 1-2 years), but would still make a worthwhile difference.
 
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Yes that is what I am afraid of , having nothing to combat aging signs !
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Boots No 7, seems interesting with lots of good reviews , does your mother have any irritation/redness with it ?
 

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For the under eye area, short of doing a lower blepharoplasty (lower eyelid surgery/lift to debulk and/or redrape the orbital fat), one could alternatively use temporary, less invasive (albeit less effective) methods such as fillers or CO2 laser.

The effects would be less dramatic and longlasting (requiring maintenance every 1-2 years), but would still make a worthwhile difference.
I think the surgeons I spoke with all told me that I can only get fat injections under my eyes but regular filler elsewhere. I am apparently too pale, and my undereyes are too thin for regular filler to not be really obvious.
 

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Ooohshuiny
Boots No 7, seems interesting with lots of good reviews , does your mother have any irritation/redness with it ?
I don't believe so - I used it for a while myself a few years ago (because I'm a bit of a male tart :razz: LOL, and I wanted to see if it made any difference to my relatively young skin) but I think I was too young for it (and it's quite expensive on my budget!).

She asks for it for Christmas sometimes, so she must like it - my mother is not one to tolerate things she doesn't like! :lol:
 

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My dermatologist swears by using Retinols on the face. He likes Retin-A or Differin but says even OTC Retinols can be effective for preventing/slowing down wrinkles.

@jeweln if you find a topical irritating on your face you can try mixing it with your favorite gentle moisturizer and also just applying that topical every other day to start...build up slowly.
 

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We now have boots in all Walgreens.

I also use the Protect & Perfect eye & face serums & have done for a few years. I have always looked after my skin with lotions & potions (current favorites are Lancôme & L’Occitaine) but I really like these serums. I only use them at night under my nighttime moisturiser as I find it a bit too much during the day. I wear minimal ‘face’ makeup, (an under eye concealer, a swipe of BB cream down my T-zone & then a translucent powder, so don’t like layers of cream underneath) before adding eyeliner, mascara & lipgloss. I am 44 now, but (& I am very glad to say) quite often get put around the 37 mark. I have always been hugely under estimated on the age front, so I think my efforts are paying off.

Good luck in finding something that works for you!
 

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Retin-A is a miracle product, but you need to pace yourself when using it in order to avoid the redness and flakiness. I've found that buffering is key, and also only using it twice per week
 

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Retin-A is a miracle product, but you need to pace yourself when using it in order to avoid the redness and flakiness. I've found that buffering is key, and also only using it twice per week

Differin gel is OTC now and better tolerated than Retin-A by many.
 

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My dermatologist swears by using Retinols on the face. He likes Retin-A or Differin but says even OTC Retinols can be effective for preventing/slowing down wrinkles.

@jeweln if you find a topical irritating on your face you can try mixing it with your favorite gentle moisturizer and also just applying that topical every other day to start...build up slowly.

This. Differin can now be purchased over the counter at the drugstore. I've seen it at CVS in the skincare aisle.

Also, I second the recommendation of Hado Labo products. They are great! I believe they all are fragrance free.
 

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Firstly I'm super impressed you are only starting to show signs at 49! :clap: Agree that very little in the way of topical creams will fix it. Sunscreen, hydrating the skin and avoiding smoking, alcohol etc are best to prevent further aging. I think the only quick fix would be Botox/fillers but depends on your preferences. I think most eye creams are over-priced rubbish, any half-decent face cream gently applied will probably do the same thing!
 

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Actually l was careful about sun exposure all my life , maybe that's why my skin is not that bad . I think Differin gel sounds good especially for my acne prone skin .
But what to use on my neck ?
 

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Unfortunately, no cream will effectively reverse or even delay the signs of aging you mentioned. Indeed, under eye bags and turkey lines are caused by weakening muscles and fat ptosis (droop).

I wish it weren’t so, but that’s the blunt and honest truth, and this coming from the horse’s mouth. :(2

The most effective methods of prevention include sun avoidance and protection (spf30+), smoking cessation, Botox/Dysport, and an overall healthy lifestyle.

That being said, if you were to use a cream to aid in fine wrinkles, it would be most helpful if it contained retinoic acid (Retin-A).

May I ask you for your thoughts on facials and other laser treatments? Do these have a more permanent effect? I generally feel the same way that creams just make me smell good and feel like a princess but it won't stop the inevitable. Appreciate it!
 

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Ultimately it’s probably all down to genes and sun. You got um or you don’t. At 60 I have smooth skin, no wrinkles and no graying. Thanks mom and dad!
 

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May I ask you for your thoughts on facials and other laser treatments? Do these have a more permanent effect? I generally feel the same way that creams just make me smell good and feel like a princess but it won't stop the inevitable. Appreciate it!

A traditional mask or facial, like you said, is more to make you feel and smell nice, much like most OTC creams (with the exception of those that contain retin-a or hydroquinone).

Laser resurfacing and chemical peels, however, are much deeper treatments administered by a medical professional. They can almost be simplified as deep exfoliation treatments that peel away the top layer of your skin. Hence, they will effectively balance skin tone, even out blemishes, lighten sun spots, tighten skin, and smooth out fine wrinkles.

Like many other treatments though, they still have a somewhat limited and moderate effect and improve appearance, rather than dramatically reverse or halt the signs of aging. Also, individuals with dark brown or black skin tones may not be candidates for such treatment, which can then discolour the skin.

IMO, prevention is still by far your best tool (other than good genes, which ultimately, is the biggest factor). Indeed, you are much better off to stop the clock with Botox/Dysport and proactively prevent (or at least slow down) the formation of wrinkles rather than perpetually trying to turn the clock back and playing catch up with laser and/or peels.

If you are combining all of the above tools, then you are truly doing all you can to prevent the inevitable and nasty signs of aging.

Though it’s difficult, if I had to classify in descending order of importance the methods of anti-aging prevention, I would do it as such:

1) Smoking cessation (first & foremost)
2) Sun avoidance & spf 30+ protection
3) Botox or Dysport
4) Laser resurfacing
5) Chemical peels
6) Retin-A Creams (or hydroquinone for pigment)

#1 is by far the most important!
#2/3 are fairly tied
#4/5/6 are much further down the list and almost tied too
 

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I'm just going to put this out there. It helps if you have chipmunk cheeks like I've had my entire life. I am not petite. My husband said the other day that I definitely don't look like other woman my age, and I told him "It's because I'm fat." Sorry, but it helps. I have to avoid the sun completely because of medication I'm on that leads to increased sun sensitivity, and I am pale as can be anyway. So no sun whatsoever. Even with SPF, I will burn.
 

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I tend to agree with @AprilBaby and @lyra . Genes and sun I think make the biggest difference. Being thin does not help your face as you age. It can make you look years older. My mom is 80 and her skin is beautiful. She always jokes that it’s because she has extra weight.
 

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I'm just going to put this out there. It helps if you have chipmunk cheeks like I've had my entire life. I am not petite. My husband said the other day that I definitely don't look like other woman my age, and I told him "It's because I'm fat." Sorry, but it helps. I have to avoid the sun completely because of medication I'm on that leads to increased sun sensitivity, and I am pale as can be anyway. So no sun whatsoever. Even with SPF, I will burn.

I’ve suddenly started seeing a lot of saggy fine lines. They’ve shocked me to the point that I was thinking of seeing a dermatologist for the first time - or even an internist. But - I’ve also lost a bit of weight in the last few months, mainly, I suspect, because I’m not eating out as much as I used to. You’ve made me realize that the fine lines are probably related to the weight loss.
:knockout:
 

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Actually l was careful about sun exposure all my life , maybe that's why my skin is not that bad . I think Differin gel sounds good especially for my acne prone skin .
But what to use on my neck ?

You can use Differin on your neck @jeweln but because the neck skin is thinner and sensitive build up slowly.

I dont use any retinols on my face or neck but just moisturize and protect myself from the sun. As others have mentioned genetics, sun avoidance and healthy lifestyle (no smoking etc) go a long way in helping one maintain a youthful appearance. Some of it is within our control and some (genetics) is not.
 

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Agreed that weight does play a role in this this, I've often noticed the difference. For example our receptionist is a larger lass who is apparently in her 40's - I genuinely thought she was early 20's! Very rosy, youthful looking face. :clap: Think genes have a massive role to play. :pray:
 

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Yes that's what I keep telling my husband when he tells that I need to lose weight , that when a person starts aging , they need to be a little fat !
 

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Apart from Retinal A my dermatologist said all expensive skin creams with so called fancy results were rubbish.
His advice - 1 no smoking. 2 sunblock and hats, the sun is the biggest skin ager there is.
3 Wash your face with mild cleanser twice a day and 4 he recommended plain old Sorbelene cream with 10% glycerol.
I have freckles and I hated them more as a teenager than the zinc cream and draggy hats I would wear to get them to fade or at least not get worse!
Fast forward 45 years, most my friends have very noticeable wrinkles and sunspots (we are close to 60 now) me, hardly any wrinkles at all AND my freckles are almost invisible. Yay to 45 plus years avoiding the sun on my face!
 
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