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aztec22m

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Great site with lots of valuable information. From knowing very little about diamonds a month ago I can say this forum and the people that contribute to it have educated me quite a bit. I have been seriously looking for a diamond for over a month now and at various times have ranged from buying a ring at Costco to getting an AGS0 stone from an online vendor to sacrificing cut to get a bigger stone. Since I have not seen an AGS0 next to just a good cut stone it is difficult for me to judge what is worth paying for. Initially I thought I would just buy a ring and totally (somewhat) surprise my girlfriend. But she and I do a lot of things together and I thought it would help me and she would enjoy the process of selecting a diamond. From that we narrowed down the type of band and that a diamond down to an I in color and VS1 in clarity would be best. We looked at a couple of SI1''s and she could see the inclusion while I could not. She has very good eyesight and I do not.

I am away on business for the next few weeks and by chance ended up visiting a local jeweler right down the street from where I am staying. He store and displays are all very nice and he said he would give me a 35% discount off the "Rap" sheet including a tiffany platinum setting. The certs on his diamonds are mostly EGL and the one I am interested in came up as a 3 using the HCA. The grading scale is: 0-2 Excellent, 2-4 Very Good, 4-6 Good, 6-8 Fair, and 8-10 Poor. The diamond is a 1.51 I VSI and the price would be around $7,500 including the platinum tiffany setting.

I would prefer an AGS or GIA certificate and the EGL does not have all of the information I would like. I did not ask the jeweler if he has an IdealScope. My girlfriend looked at the diamond using a loupe and loved it. But she also likes alot of the diamonds we have looked at online and at Costco. Without looking at them side by side I find it is difficult for me to judge.

Thoughts anyone? If I decide to buy from this or any jeweler should I have it sent out for appraisal and how does that process work with the jeweler? Is that commonplace for the jeweler to send it to an appraiser of your choice?

I will post all of the specifics I got from the EGL cert as soon as I find the piece of paper again. He told me I could make a copy of the cert but I just wrote everything down.

Thanks for anyones opinion on this.
 

aztec22m

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EGL Certificate

1.51 I VSI
Depth 64.6%
Table width 56%
Crown height 16%
Pavillion depth: 43%
Girdle: Medium to Slightly Thick
Polish: VG
Symmetry: G
Cutlet: None
Fluro: Very Slight
 

Ellen

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Hi aztec,

Congrats on your impending engagement!

The stone you''ve picked out is really deep. Personally, I wouldn''t go past 62, and then only if it''s not affecting the diameter (face up size) too much. That info isn''t in the report, but I can pretty much bet it will look smaller than it should. I just wouldn''t want to pay for something I''m not getting.

The symmetry is Good, I would stick with Very Good and up.

As for an EGL stone in general, yes, I would have it looked at by an independant appraisor. You would have to ask the jeweler how he wants to work that.

If you two really want to buy from a retailer, I honestly think it would be safer to stick with a GIA or AGS stone.

I see you''ve considered online. I shopped retail in the beginning of my upgrade search, and in the end bought online. The quality of online stones in many cases is far superior to what B&M''s sell, at way better prices. Not always, but a lot of the time.

If you decided to go online, we''d love to help!
 

aztec22m

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Thanks for the input Ellen. I think I will continue to look online and see what I can get. I really have not like any B&M experiences and had one this weekend that was sad. One of the online vendors seems like the best option.

Thanks.
 

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Date: 2/11/2007 9:23:45 PM
Author: aztec22m
Thanks for the input Ellen. I think I will continue to look online and see what I can get. I really have not like any B&M experiences and had one this weekend that was sad. One of the online vendors seems like the best option.

Thanks.
Aw, I''m sorry to hear that, but not really surprised. I too tried to shop B&M''s, it was all downhill, not fun like I thought it would be.

You will do well to shop online, I did!
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If you decide you want some help, just make a new thread and tell us what your budget is and what you''re looking for, and we''d be more than glad to help you!
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