Elliot86|1486443658|4125235 said:You know the focus is always going to be on Obama (no longer president) or Hillary (who did not win).
arkieb1|1486443516|4125233 said:redwood66|1486443423|4125231 said:arkieb1|1486442974|4125228 said:redwood66|1486442821|4125227 said:My baiting? That's rich. You can't just agree to disagree without telling someone how stupid they are because they don't agree with you. Do you read your own posts through an objective lens?
Honey I only give as good as I get. So you do, answer my question above, where's your line when Trump does something that even you don't, won't or can't accept.
There are things he does that I do not agree with. I don't know where you got the idea that I am a Trump sychophant. I just don't post every thought in my head here on PS. Thanks for toning down the nasty btw. I am a nice person but no one likes condescension.
I have no empirical or statistical evidence to back that up, and YES that was my sense of humour not condescension.
What does he have to do so that you personally say yes, O.K it's time to remove him. That is what I am asking. If he does x or y then yes he as crossed of the line of being an acceptable and non acceptable leader...
redwood66|1486443713|4125236 said:Oh bull. I have said nice things to you.
Elliot86|1486443658|4125235 said:arkieb1|1486442815|4125226 said:ruby59|1486442001|4125223 said:Assuming facts here that Trump is an anti semite.
But I am seeing references to Hillary Clinton that "referred to Jews as 'stupid k***s'"
I am also finding other derogatory remarks she used to describe Jews and African Americans,
Here we go again, it doesn't matter what we say or what evidence we provide I get it, to you, Hillary was worse. It doesn't matter how many examples I, or anyone else provide to suggest Trump was x or y you are going to come up with an argument to disprove it. Tell me honestly, what does he need to do and this is for both yourself and for Red before you can actually see he and Bannon should be impeached or removed. Where does he cross the line where it's unacceptable to you? Forget Hillary I already have we're talking about Trump here, when is he going to cross "your line" of what is unacceptable?
Arkie, you are one of the most intelligent posters here. You know the focus is always going to be on Obama (no longer president) or Hillary (who did not win). The defenders simply don't matter anymore. The breaking point has come for most people I know in real life. Even my ultra conservative family members who were vocal Trump supporters have expressed major concerns. They feel duped which is frustrating to watch because we all knew it would happen. They thought he was this irreverent tough talker who was going to take down the Wall Street gangs and build some dumb wall. Now we have him appointing billionaires and pulling his financial team from Goldman Sachs.
Everyone is getting up in arms about beer commercials and being called racist while he pisses away what's left.
JoCoJenn|1486443875|4125239 said:Elliot86|1486443658|4125235 said:You know the focus is always going to be on Obama (no longer president) or Hillary (who did not win).
Thank Godiva chocolates someone has FINALLY admitted it!
Elliot86|1486444146|4125243 said:JoCoJenn|1486443875|4125239 said:Elliot86|1486443658|4125235 said:You know the focus is always going to be on Obama (no longer president) or Hillary (who did not win).
Thank Godiva chocolates someone has FINALLY admitted it!
Anything to help you move on to another scapegoat, Jenn! (yes I know full well you will try to have a passive aggressive emoji game of chicken now, but alas bed calls)
redwood66|1486444387|4125246 said:The hypocrisy of the term passive aggressive used on PS.
JoCoJenn|1486444411|4125247 said:Elliot86|1486444146|4125243 said:JoCoJenn|1486443875|4125239 said:Elliot86|1486443658|4125235 said:You know the focus is always going to be on Obama (no longer president) or Hillary (who did not win).
Thank Godiva chocolates someone has FINALLY admitted it!
Anything to help you move on to another scapegoat, Jenn! (yes I know full well you will try to have a passive aggressive emoji game of chicken now, but alas bed calls)
Elliot86|1486444484|4125248 said:redwood66|1486444387|4125246 said:The hypocrisy of the term passive aggressive used on PS.
Welcome back Red! Jumping back into the pool cannon ball style today aren't we?
Elliot86|1486444694|4125249 said:Thanks, but I think marshmallows on a stick are more festive for the impending nuclear meltdown
JoCoJenn|1486445760|4125256 said:Elliot86|1486444694|4125249 said:Thanks, but I think marshmallows on a stick are more festive for the impending nuclear meltdown
In that case, I'll be sure to stock my bunker with a few for the after party.
ruby59|1486446023|4125259 said:JoCoJenn|1486445760|4125256 said:Elliot86|1486444694|4125249 said:Thanks, but I think marshmallows on a stick are more festive for the impending nuclear meltdown
In that case, I'll be sure to stock my bunker with a few for the after party.
Save something for the meltdown going on in the Trump tweet thread. Might be too late for chocolate. A few may need sedation.
redwood66|1486443943|4125240 said:I'll come here first and let you know when I see it. K?
arkieb1|1486450069|4125287 said:redwood66|1486443943|4125240 said:I'll come here first and let you know when I see it. K?
And we can do a mutual happy dance together. I don't dislike you, I don't dislike conservatives, Trump should not be where he is and the sooner we collectively remove him the better off the world as a whole will be. There I said it, no snickers required.
ruby59|1486442001|4125223 said:arkieb1|1486441328|4125218 said:redwood66|1486437838|4125196 said:You did not attempt to parse any of Forsetti's article in how it applies to conservative posters here. Therefore by your post, which I quoted, indicates his entire article applies. Which it does not. That is my opinion.
If I post something wrong I admit it. I don't agree with everything Trump does but meanwhile the left is trying to find, in the right, every psychological defect under the sun to justify why Hillary lost.
Hillary was the wrong candidate, she spoke down to people, people didn't trust her because Trumps team spent millions of money convincing every person that believed his campaign she was even more immoral, untruthful and evil and he was, and my personal favourite she must be untrustworthy or less of a person because she stayed with Bill... and those emails well we are all going to ignore Trump is essentially now doing the same thing. Me personally I don't care jack if the Dem's candidate was a monkey, they would still probably do a better job than Trump. So you see I'm over the fact she lost, and as I keep saying and the point you seem to be missing is that if you had a decent conservative currently in power with moderate or rational views I wouldn't even waste my time posting on here about it.
Trump should never have been your president period. And no we are not "going to get over it" because he is a corrupt immoral extremist.
Any self examination is absent. That is very convenient and not worth the thousands of words the very few conservatives here on PS have used to try to explain it to you. If it makes you feel better to posit that because I don't change my views to yours I must be a defective voter then posit away. Nothing I say will change your mind either.
Here is a bit from Dave Rubin formerly on Young Turks. This is my opinion also.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiVQ8vrGA_8&t=7s
ETA - Actually this need to understand why a conservative here on PS could vote for Trump by some left leaners, for me, is baffling. I would never think to interrogate and bemoan another's choice in our most personal of civic duties.
Dave Rubin puts all progressives in the same basket, correct me but isn't that doing exactly the same thing? O.K I'll stop trying to understand why someone who is Jewish votes for a team that is essentially anti-Jewish, in the case of DF I'll stop attempting to analyse why someone who is Chinese has a wife who supported Trumps team who are again essentially anti-Asian.... I'll just go with the theory it's because you think he's better than Hillary and even though I accept she was a s@&* choice you were incapable of seeing Trump was an even worse one until he does something that effects you and yours personally.
Assuming facts here that Trump is an anti semite.
But I am seeing references to Hillary Clinton that "referred to Jews as 'stupid k***s'"
I am also finding other derogatory remarks she used to describe Jews and African Americans,
part gypsy|1486474187|4125320 said:Any from an actual credible source? (Infowars and Breitbart don't count). It sounds awfully contrary to how she has lived her life as far as her bridging racial divides, working with women and children, and also her family has some Jewish background.
Perhaps she forgot that bit of advice when this last election cycle rolled around.But we believe just as strongly that Mrs. Clinton will be making a terrible mistake — for herself, her party and for the nation — if she continues to press her candidacy through negative campaigning with disturbing racial undertones.
JoCoJenn|1486479848|4125342 said:part gypsy|1486474187|4125320 said:Any from an actual credible source? (Infowars and Breitbart don't count). It sounds awfully contrary to how she has lived her life as far as her bridging racial divides, working with women and children, and also her family has some Jewish background.
Keeping in mind that - when much of what HRC was alleged to have said - the availability of what many consider today as "evidence" (video, audio clips, etc. from cell phones) didn't really exist EXCEPT from witness statements. From the people who were closest to her over the years: http://ijr.com/wildfire/2016/10/710446-11-extremely-vulgar-comments-that-came-out-of-the-mouth-of-hillary-clinton/
Straight from the horse's mouth:
- Against Gandhi: https://youtu.be/xLkFtfyWK3Q
- Her reference to 'super-predators': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0uCrA7ePno in which she also ironically lauds "community policing and local law enforcement efforts" under her hub's crime bill.
- And to which Ice Cube also felt contributed to the launch of the BLM effort: https://youtu.be/Oja7kVKfqac
Even the NY Times published this opinion piece in the '08 cycle: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/09/opinion/09fri1.html?pagewanted=print
Perhaps she forgot that bit of advice when this last election cycle rolled around.But we believe just as strongly that Mrs. Clinton will be making a terrible mistake — for herself, her party and for the nation — if she continues to press her candidacy through negative campaigning with disturbing racial undertones.
And about that pesky border & immigration issue: https://youtu.be/AUB3CUzD-oo
redwood66|1486443943|4125240 said:arkieb1|1486443516|4125233 said:redwood66|1486443423|4125231 said:arkieb1|1486442974|4125228 said:redwood66|1486442821|4125227 said:My baiting? That's rich. You can't just agree to disagree without telling someone how stupid they are because they don't agree with you. Do you read your own posts through an objective lens?
Honey I only give as good as I get. So you do, answer my question above, where's your line when Trump does something that even you don't, won't or can't accept.
There are things he does that I do not agree with. I don't know where you got the idea that I am a Trump sychophant. I just don't post every thought in my head here on PS. Thanks for toning down the nasty btw. I am a nice person but no one likes condescension.
I have no empirical or statistical evidence to back that up, and YES that was my sense of humour not condescension.
What does he have to do so that you personally say yes, O.K it's time to remove him. That is what I am asking. If he does x or y then yes he as crossed of the line of being an acceptable and non acceptable leader...
I'll come here first and let you know when I see it. K?
ruby59|1486443962|4125242 said:Elliot86|1486443658|4125235 said:arkieb1|1486442815|4125226 said:ruby59|1486442001|4125223 said:Assuming facts here that Trump is an anti semite.
But I am seeing references to Hillary Clinton that "referred to Jews as 'stupid k***s'"
I am also finding other derogatory remarks she used to describe Jews and African Americans,
Here we go again, it doesn't matter what we say or what evidence we provide I get it, to you, Hillary was worse. It doesn't matter how many examples I, or anyone else provide to suggest Trump was x or y you are going to come up with an argument to disprove it. Tell me honestly, what does he need to do and this is for both yourself and for Red before you can actually see he and Bannon should be impeached or removed. Where does he cross the line where it's unacceptable to you? Forget Hillary I already have we're talking about Trump here, when is he going to cross "your line" of what is unacceptable?
Arkie, you are one of the most intelligent posters here. You know the focus is always going to be on Obama (no longer president) or Hillary (who did not win). The defenders simply don't matter anymore. The breaking point has come for most people I know in real life. Even my ultra conservative family members who were vocal Trump supporters have expressed major concerns. They feel duped which is frustrating to watch because we all knew it would happen. They thought he was this irreverent tough talker who was going to take down the Wall Street gangs and build some dumb wall. Now we have him appointing billionaires and pulling his financial team from Goldman Sachs.
Everyone is getting up in arms about beer commercials and being called racist while he pisses away what's left.
I have responded here when I thought a wrong move was made by Trump and the Republican party.
Look at the Gun thread where I agreed that giving guns back to the mentally ill was STUPID, especially after what happened in Florida.
I admitted that the way Trump handled the ban was not well thought out and that people who had already landed at various airports should have been processed through
ruby59|1486446023|4125259 said:JoCoJenn|1486445760|4125256 said:Elliot86|1486444694|4125249 said:Thanks, but I think marshmallows on a stick are more festive for the impending nuclear meltdown
In that case, I'll be sure to stock my bunker with a few for the after party.
Save something for the meltdown going on in the Trump tweet thread. Might be too late for chocolate. A few may need sedation.
part gypsy|1486481106|4125348 said:JoCoJenn|1486479848|4125342 said:part gypsy|1486474187|4125320 said:Any from an actual credible source? (Infowars and Breitbart don't count). It sounds awfully contrary to how she has lived her life as far as her bridging racial divides, working with women and children, and also her family has some Jewish background.
Keeping in mind that - when much of what HRC was alleged to have said - the availability of what many consider today as "evidence" (video, audio clips, etc. from cell phones) didn't really exist EXCEPT from witness statements. From the people who were closest to her over the years: http://ijr.com/wildfire/2016/10/710446-11-extremely-vulgar-comments-that-came-out-of-the-mouth-of-hillary-clinton/
Straight from the horse's mouth:
- Against Gandhi: https://youtu.be/xLkFtfyWK3Q
- Her reference to 'super-predators': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0uCrA7ePno in which she also ironically lauds "community policing and local law enforcement efforts" under her hub's crime bill.
- And to which Ice Cube also felt contributed to the launch of the BLM effort: https://youtu.be/Oja7kVKfqac
Even the NY Times published this opinion piece in the '08 cycle: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/09/opinion/09fri1.html?pagewanted=print
Perhaps she forgot that bit of advice when this last election cycle rolled around.But we believe just as strongly that Mrs. Clinton will be making a terrible mistake — for herself, her party and for the nation — if she continues to press her candidacy through negative campaigning with disturbing racial undertones.
And about that pesky border & immigration issue: https://youtu.be/AUB3CUzD-oo
The top one, again repeating he said she said, the vast majority of "references" are not from people close to her, but from anti-Hillary books, such as people who write tabloid books or people with axes to grind (Bill's ex-lover).
I can't look at youtube videos at work. I have heard the super predators one, but again I don't see any compelling info she goes around regularly using "kike" or other anti semitic terms other than from dubious sources which have been previously critiqued (but still repeated).
But feel free to use Hillary as your excuse for defending Trump.
arkieb1|1486450069|4125287 said:redwood66|1486443943|4125240 said:I'll come here first and let you know when I see it. K?
And we can do a mutual happy dance together. I don't dislike you, I don't dislike conservatives, Trump should not be where he is and the sooner we collectively remove him the better off the world as a whole will be. There I said it, no snickers required.
AGBF|1486480703|4125346 said:I just wanted to say welcome back, red.
Deb
part gypsy|1486474187|4125320 said:ruby59|1486442001|4125223 said:arkieb1|1486441328|4125218 said:redwood66|1486437838|4125196 said:You did not attempt to parse any of Forsetti's article in how it applies to conservative posters here. Therefore by your post, which I quoted, indicates his entire article applies. Which it does not. That is my opinion.
If I post something wrong I admit it. I don't agree with everything Trump does but meanwhile the left is trying to find, in the right, every psychological defect under the sun to justify why Hillary lost.
Hillary was the wrong candidate, she spoke down to people, people didn't trust her because Trumps team spent millions of money convincing every person that believed his campaign she was even more immoral, untruthful and evil and he was, and my personal favourite she must be untrustworthy or less of a person because she stayed with Bill... and those emails well we are all going to ignore Trump is essentially now doing the same thing. Me personally I don't care jack if the Dem's candidate was a monkey, they would still probably do a better job than Trump. So you see I'm over the fact she lost, and as I keep saying and the point you seem to be missing is that if you had a decent conservative currently in power with moderate or rational views I wouldn't even waste my time posting on here about it.
Trump should never have been your president period. And no we are not "going to get over it" because he is a corrupt immoral extremist.
Any self examination is absent. That is very convenient and not worth the thousands of words the very few conservatives here on PS have used to try to explain it to you. If it makes you feel better to posit that because I don't change my views to yours I must be a defective voter then posit away. Nothing I say will change your mind either.
Here is a bit from Dave Rubin formerly on Young Turks. This is my opinion also.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiVQ8vrGA_8&t=7s
ETA - Actually this need to understand why a conservative here on PS could vote for Trump by some left leaners, for me, is baffling. I would never think to interrogate and bemoan another's choice in our most personal of civic duties.
Dave Rubin puts all progressives in the same basket, correct me but isn't that doing exactly the same thing? O.K I'll stop trying to understand why someone who is Jewish votes for a team that is essentially anti-Jewish, in the case of DF I'll stop attempting to analyse why someone who is Chinese has a wife who supported Trumps team who are again essentially anti-Asian.... I'll just go with the theory it's because you think he's better than Hillary and even though I accept she was a s@&* choice you were incapable of seeing Trump was an even worse one until he does something that effects you and yours personally.
Assuming facts here that Trump is an anti semite.
But I am seeing references to Hillary Clinton that "referred to Jews as 'stupid k***s'"
I am also finding other derogatory remarks she used to describe Jews and African Americans,
Ruby, you need to brush up on your fact versus fiction skills. Any from an actual credible source? (Infowars and Breitbart don't count). It sounds awfully contrary to how she has lived her life as far as her bridging racial divides, working with women and children, and also her family has some Jewish background. Just because you read something, doesn't mean it's true. In contrast, Trump has as his closest advisor, someone who is a white supremacist. That would worry me, as a Jewish (or really any minority) person far more than an off hand remark someone made. And I'm not sure who you are talking to, my friends who are Jewish are highly concerned with the events that have taken place since Trump became president.
ruby59|1486497419|4125529 said:part gypsy|1486474187|4125320 said:ruby59|1486442001|4125223 said:arkieb1|1486441328|4125218 said:redwood66|1486437838|4125196 said:You did not attempt to parse any of Forsetti's article in how it applies to conservative posters here. Therefore by your post, which I quoted, indicates his entire article applies. Which it does not. That is my opinion.
If I post something wrong I admit it. I don't agree with everything Trump does but meanwhile the left is trying to find, in the right, every psychological defect under the sun to justify why Hillary lost.
Hillary was the wrong candidate, she spoke down to people, people didn't trust her because Trumps team spent millions of money convincing every person that believed his campaign she was even more immoral, untruthful and evil and he was, and my personal favourite she must be untrustworthy or less of a person because she stayed with Bill... and those emails well we are all going to ignore Trump is essentially now doing the same thing. Me personally I don't care jack if the Dem's candidate was a monkey, they would still probably do a better job than Trump. So you see I'm over the fact she lost, and as I keep saying and the point you seem to be missing is that if you had a decent conservative currently in power with moderate or rational views I wouldn't even waste my time posting on here about it.
Trump should never have been your president period. And no we are not "going to get over it" because he is a corrupt immoral extremist.
Any self examination is absent. That is very convenient and not worth the thousands of words the very few conservatives here on PS have used to try to explain it to you. If it makes you feel better to posit that because I don't change my views to yours I must be a defective voter then posit away. Nothing I say will change your mind either.
Here is a bit from Dave Rubin formerly on Young Turks. This is my opinion also.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiVQ8vrGA_8&t=7s
ETA - Actually this need to understand why a conservative here on PS could vote for Trump by some left leaners, for me, is baffling. I would never think to interrogate and bemoan another's choice in our most personal of civic duties.
Dave Rubin puts all progressives in the same basket, correct me but isn't that doing exactly the same thing? O.K I'll stop trying to understand why someone who is Jewish votes for a team that is essentially anti-Jewish, in the case of DF I'll stop attempting to analyse why someone who is Chinese has a wife who supported Trumps team who are again essentially anti-Asian.... I'll just go with the theory it's because you think he's better than Hillary and even though I accept she was a s@&* choice you were incapable of seeing Trump was an even worse one until he does something that effects you and yours personally.
Assuming facts here that Trump is an anti semite.
But I am seeing references to Hillary Clinton that "referred to Jews as 'stupid k***s'"
I am also finding other derogatory remarks she used to describe Jews and African Americans,
Ruby, you need to brush up on your fact versus fiction skills. Any from an actual credible source? (Infowars and Breitbart don't count). It sounds awfully contrary to how she has lived her life as far as her bridging racial divides, working with women and children, and also her family has some Jewish background. Just because you read something, doesn't mean it's true. In contrast, Trump has as his closest advisor, someone who is a white supremacist. That would worry me, as a Jewish (or really any minority) person far more than an off hand remark someone made. And I'm not sure who you are talking to, my friends who are Jewish are highly concerned with the events that have taken place since Trump became president.
So, you premise is that Hillary cannot be anti semetic because "her family has some Jewish backgroumd" What does that even mean?
But then how can Trump be when his son in law and trusted adviser is Jewish. And his wife converted to Judaism, making his grandchildren Jewish as well.