Americans Cannot Tell Truth From Lies

[redwood66]

Oh bull. I have said nice things to you.

 

[the_mother_thing]

You know the focus is always going to be on Obama (no longer president) or Hillary (who did not win).

Thank Godiva chocolates someone has FINALLY admitted it!

 

[redwood66]

My baiting? That's rich. You can't just agree to disagree without telling someone how stupid they are because they don't agree with you. Do you read your own posts through an objective lens?

Honey I only give as good as I get. So you do, answer my question above, where's your line when Trump does something that even you don't, won't or can't accept.

There are things he does that I do not agree with. I don't know where you got the idea that I am a Trump sychophant. I just don't post every thought in my head here on PS. Thanks for toning down the nasty btw. I am a nice person but no one likes condescension.

I have no empirical or statistical evidence to back that up, and YES that was my sense of humour not condescension.



What does he have to do so that you personally say yes, O.K it's time to remove him. That is what I am asking. If he does x or y then yes he as crossed of the line of being an acceptable and non acceptable leader...

I'll come here first and let you know when I see it. K?

 

[arkieb1]

Oh bull. I have said nice things to you.

Holy Cr@* I really must have a selective memory.

 

[ruby59]

Assuming facts here that Trump is an anti semite.

But I am seeing references to Hillary Clinton that "referred to Jews as 'stupid k***s'"

I am also finding other derogatory remarks she used to describe Jews and African Americans,

Here we go again, it doesn't matter what we say or what evidence we provide I get it, to you, Hillary was worse. It doesn't matter how many examples I, or anyone else provide to suggest Trump was x or y you are going to come up with an argument to disprove it. Tell me honestly, what does he need to do and this is for both yourself and for Red before you can actually see he and Bannon should be impeached or removed. Where does he cross the line where it's unacceptable to you? Forget Hillary I already have we're talking about Trump here, when is he going to cross "your line" of what is unacceptable?

Arkie, you are one of the most intelligent posters here. You know the focus is always going to be on Obama (no longer president) or Hillary (who did not win). The defenders simply don't matter anymore. The breaking point has come for most people I know in real life. Even my ultra conservative family members who were vocal Trump supporters have expressed major concerns. They feel duped which is frustrating to watch because we all knew it would happen. They thought he was this irreverent tough talker who was going to take down the Wall Street gangs and build some dumb wall. Now we have him appointing billionaires and pulling his financial team from Goldman Sachs.

Everyone is getting up in arms about beer commercials and being called racist while he pisses away what's left.

I have responded here when I thought a wrong move was made by Trump and the Republican party.

Look at the Gun thread where I agreed that giving guns back to the mentally ill was STUPID, especially after what happened in Florida.

I admitted that the way Trump handled the ban was not well thought out and that people who had already landed at various airports should have been processed through

 

[OreoRosies86]

You know the focus is always going to be on Obama (no longer president) or Hillary (who did not win).

Thank Godiva chocolates someone has FINALLY admitted it!

Anything to help you move on to another scapegoat, Jenn! (yes I know full well you will try to have a passive aggressive emoji game of chicken now, but alas bed calls)

 

[redwood66]

The hypocrisy of the term passive aggressive used on PS.

 

[the_mother_thing]

You know the focus is always going to be on Obama (no longer president) or Hillary (who did not win).

Thank Godiva chocolates someone has FINALLY admitted it!

Anything to help you move on to another scapegoat, Jenn! (yes I know full well you will try to have a passive aggressive emoji game of chicken now, but alas bed calls)

 

[OreoRosies86]

The hypocrisy of the term passive aggressive used on PS.

Welcome back Red! Jumping back into the pool cannon ball style today aren't we?

 

[OreoRosies86]

You know the focus is always going to be on Obama (no longer president) or Hillary (who did not win).

Thank Godiva chocolates someone has FINALLY admitted it!

Anything to help you move on to another scapegoat, Jenn! (yes I know full well you will try to have a passive aggressive emoji game of chicken now, but alas bed calls)

Thanks, but I think marshmallows on a stick are more festive for the impending nuclear meltdown

 

[redwood66]

The hypocrisy of the term passive aggressive used on PS.

Welcome back Red! Jumping back into the pool cannon ball style today aren't we?

Thank you! Well being able to read but not post has been excruciating because it all built up!

 

[the_mother_thing]

Thanks, but I think marshmallows on a stick are more festive for the impending nuclear meltdown

In that case, I'll be sure to stock my bunker with a few for the after party.

 

[ruby59]

Thanks, but I think marshmallows on a stick are more festive for the impending nuclear meltdown

In that case, I'll be sure to stock my bunker with a few for the after party.

Save something for the meltdown going on in the Trump tweet thread. Might be too late for chocolate. A few may need sedation.

 

[redwood66]

Thanks, but I think marshmallows on a stick are more festive for the impending nuclear meltdown

In that case, I'll be sure to stock my bunker with a few for the after party.

Save something for the meltdown going on in the Trump tweet thread. Might be too late for chocolate. A few may need sedation.

Or a drink or three.

 

[arkieb1]

I'll come here first and let you know when I see it. K?

And we can do a mutual happy dance together. I don't dislike you, I don't dislike conservatives, Trump should not be where he is and the sooner we collectively remove him the better off the world as a whole will be. There I said it, no snickers required.

 

[redwood66]

I'll come here first and let you know when I see it. K?

And we can do a mutual happy dance together. I don't dislike you, I don't dislike conservatives, Trump should not be where he is and the sooner we collectively remove him the better off the world as a whole will be. There I said it, no snickers required.

Well that is truly nice to know. Because I don't dislike you or much of anybody here, or liberals. I dislike nastiness and intolerance. You forgot the IMO on your Trump statement.

 

[partgypsy]

You did not attempt to parse any of Forsetti's article in how it applies to conservative posters here. Therefore by your post, which I quoted, indicates his entire article applies. Which it does not. That is my opinion.

If I post something wrong I admit it. I don't agree with everything Trump does but meanwhile the left is trying to find, in the right, every psychological defect under the sun to justify why Hillary lost.

Hillary was the wrong candidate, she spoke down to people, people didn't trust her because Trumps team spent millions of money convincing every person that believed his campaign she was even more immoral, untruthful and evil and he was, and my personal favourite she must be untrustworthy or less of a person because she stayed with Bill... and those emails well we are all going to ignore Trump is essentially now doing the same thing. Me personally I don't care jack if the Dem's candidate was a monkey, they would still probably do a better job than Trump. So you see I'm over the fact she lost, and as I keep saying and the point you seem to be missing is that if you had a decent conservative currently in power with moderate or rational views I wouldn't even waste my time posting on here about it.

Trump should never have been your president period. And no we are not "going to get over it" because he is a corrupt immoral extremist.

Any self examination is absent. That is very convenient and not worth the thousands of words the very few conservatives here on PS have used to try to explain it to you. If it makes you feel better to posit that because I don't change my views to yours I must be a defective voter then posit away. Nothing I say will change your mind either.



Here is a bit from Dave Rubin formerly on Young Turks. This is my opinion also.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiVQ8vrGA_8&t=7s


ETA - Actually this need to understand why a conservative here on PS could vote for Trump by some left leaners, for me, is baffling. I would never think to interrogate and bemoan another's choice in our most personal of civic duties.

Dave Rubin puts all progressives in the same basket, correct me but isn't that doing exactly the same thing? O.K I'll stop trying to understand why someone who is Jewish votes for a team that is essentially anti-Jewish, in the case of DF I'll stop attempting to analyse why someone who is Chinese has a wife who supported Trumps team who are again essentially anti-Asian.... I'll just go with the theory it's because you think he's better than Hillary and even though I accept she was a s@&* choice you were incapable of seeing Trump was an even worse one until he does something that effects you and yours personally.

Assuming facts here that Trump is an anti semite.

But I am seeing references to Hillary Clinton that "referred to Jews as 'stupid k***s'"

I am also finding other derogatory remarks she used to describe Jews and African Americans,

Ruby, you need to brush up on your fact versus fiction skills. Any from an actual credible source? (Infowars and Breitbart don't count). It sounds awfully contrary to how she has lived her life as far as her bridging racial divides, working with women and children, and also her family has some Jewish background. Just because you read something, doesn't mean it's true. In contrast, Trump has as his closest advisor, someone who is a white supremacist. That would worry me, as a Jewish (or really any minority) person far more than an off hand remark someone made. And I'm not sure who you are talking to, my friends who are Jewish are highly concerned with the events that have taken place since Trump became president.

 

[the_mother_thing]

Any from an actual credible source? (Infowars and Breitbart don't count). It sounds awfully contrary to how she has lived her life as far as her bridging racial divides, working with women and children, and also her family has some Jewish background.

Keeping in mind that - when much of what HRC was alleged to have said - the availability of what many consider today as "evidence" (video, audio clips, etc. from cell phones) didn't really exist EXCEPT from witness statements. From the people who were closest to her over the years: http://ijr.com/wildfire/2016/10/710446-11-extremely-vulgar-comments-that-came-out-of-the-mouth-of-hillary-clinton/

Straight from the horse's mouth:
- Against Gandhi: https://youtu.be/xLkFtfyWK3Q
- Her reference to 'super-predators': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0uCrA7ePno in which she also ironically lauds "community policing and local law enforcement efforts" under her hub's crime bill.
- And to which Ice Cube also felt contributed to the launch of the BLM effort: https://youtu.be/Oja7kVKfqac

Even the NY Times published this opinion piece in the '08 cycle: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/09/opinion/09fri1.html?pagewanted=print

But we believe just as strongly that Mrs. Clinton will be making a terrible mistake — for herself, her party and for the nation — if she continues to press her candidacy through negative campaigning with disturbing racial undertones.

Perhaps she forgot that bit of advice when this last election cycle rolled around.

And about that pesky border & immigration issue: https://youtu.be/AUB3CUzD-oo

 

[AGBF]

I just wanted to say welcome back, red.

Deb

 

[partgypsy]

Any from an actual credible source? (Infowars and Breitbart don't count). It sounds awfully contrary to how she has lived her life as far as her bridging racial divides, working with women and children, and also her family has some Jewish background.

Keeping in mind that - when much of what HRC was alleged to have said - the availability of what many consider today as "evidence" (video, audio clips, etc. from cell phones) didn't really exist EXCEPT from witness statements. From the people who were closest to her over the years: http://ijr.com/wildfire/2016/10/710446-11-extremely-vulgar-comments-that-came-out-of-the-mouth-of-hillary-clinton/

Straight from the horse's mouth:
- Against Gandhi: https://youtu.be/xLkFtfyWK3Q
- Her reference to 'super-predators': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0uCrA7ePno in which she also ironically lauds "community policing and local law enforcement efforts" under her hub's crime bill.
- And to which Ice Cube also felt contributed to the launch of the BLM effort: https://youtu.be/Oja7kVKfqac

Even the NY Times published this opinion piece in the '08 cycle: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/09/opinion/09fri1.html?pagewanted=print

But we believe just as strongly that Mrs. Clinton will be making a terrible mistake — for herself, her party and for the nation — if she continues to press her candidacy through negative campaigning with disturbing racial undertones.

Perhaps she forgot that bit of advice when this last election cycle rolled around.

And about that pesky border & immigration issue: https://youtu.be/AUB3CUzD-oo

The top one, again repeating he said she said, the vast majority of "references" are not from people close to her, but from anti-Hillary books, such as people who write tabloid books or people with axes to grind (Bill's ex-lover).

I can't look at youtube videos at work. I have heard the super predators one, but again I don't see any compelling info she goes around regularly using "kike" or other anti semitic terms other than from dubious sources which have been previously critiqued (but still repeated).

But feel free to use Hillary as your excuse for defending Trump. A very curious excuse, given the things that Trump has said on record, or by people very close to him (Bannon, his butler) that ARE documented and are very unambiguous. Here is stuff his 30 years butler said "The only way we will change this crooked government is to douche it !!!!! This might be the time with this kenyan fraud in power !!!!...and if that means dragging that ball less dick head from the white mosque and hanging his scrawny ass from the portico--count me in !!!!!..." another commentator "If he gets hung, then Sasquatch does too." Senecal responded, "Amen....Two of the most DISGUSTING individuals on the face of God's Green Earth !!!! Puke !!!" (Sasquatch refers to Michelle Obama). Or editorials by Trump's ally David Duke "http://davidduke.com/jewish-establishment-hates-trump/" In this he blames Jews for Europe's current immigration problem. David Duke is super happy that Trump is in power. How do mainstream Jews feel about that? Does David Duke know something they do not?

Setting aside recorded comments, his legislation as Guiliani called it the "Muslim ban" goes against the "Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965" which forbids discrimination against immigrants based on their "nationality, place of birth, or place of residence." In addition Trump stated that he wants to weaken laws that separate Church and State. I shouldn't have to mention that is against the founding fathers core belief that people should be free from religious discrimination, and one of the primary reasons why America was founded in the first place! Given that Islam is the 2nd most popular religion and 1.5 billion people are Muslim, it is going to be about as equally effective as banning all brunettes as a way to reduce terrorism.

 

[AnnaH]

My baiting? That's rich. You can't just agree to disagree without telling someone how stupid they are because they don't agree with you. Do you read your own posts through an objective lens?

Honey I only give as good as I get. So you do, answer my question above, where's your line when Trump does something that even you don't, won't or can't accept.

There are things he does that I do not agree with. I don't know where you got the idea that I am a Trump sychophant. I just don't post every thought in my head here on PS. Thanks for toning down the nasty btw. I am a nice person but no one likes condescension.

I have no empirical or statistical evidence to back that up, and YES that was my sense of humour not condescension.



What does he have to do so that you personally say yes, O.K it's time to remove him. That is what I am asking. If he does x or y then yes he as crossed of the line of being an acceptable and non acceptable leader...

I'll come here first and let you know when I see it. K?

Red, you mean you don't have a crystal ball?

 

[AnnaH]

Assuming facts here that Trump is an anti semite.

But I am seeing references to Hillary Clinton that "referred to Jews as 'stupid k***s'"

I am also finding other derogatory remarks she used to describe Jews and African Americans,

Here we go again, it doesn't matter what we say or what evidence we provide I get it, to you, Hillary was worse. It doesn't matter how many examples I, or anyone else provide to suggest Trump was x or y you are going to come up with an argument to disprove it. Tell me honestly, what does he need to do and this is for both yourself and for Red before you can actually see he and Bannon should be impeached or removed. Where does he cross the line where it's unacceptable to you? Forget Hillary I already have we're talking about Trump here, when is he going to cross "your line" of what is unacceptable?

Arkie, you are one of the most intelligent posters here. You know the focus is always going to be on Obama (no longer president) or Hillary (who did not win). The defenders simply don't matter anymore. The breaking point has come for most people I know in real life. Even my ultra conservative family members who were vocal Trump supporters have expressed major concerns. They feel duped which is frustrating to watch because we all knew it would happen. They thought he was this irreverent tough talker who was going to take down the Wall Street gangs and build some dumb wall. Now we have him appointing billionaires and pulling his financial team from Goldman Sachs.

Everyone is getting up in arms about beer commercials and being called racist while he pisses away what's left.

I have responded here when I thought a wrong move was made by Trump and the Republican party.

Look at the Gun thread where I agreed that giving guns back to the mentally ill was STUPID, especially after what happened in Florida.

I admitted that the way Trump handled the ban was not well thought out and that people who had already landed at various airports should have been processed through

Ruby, I've observed no one here carrying the water for Trump, yet that's the constant cry of many posters here.

 

[AnnaH]

Thanks, but I think marshmallows on a stick are more festive for the impending nuclear meltdown

In that case, I'll be sure to stock my bunker with a few for the after party.

Save something for the meltdown going on in the Trump tweet thread. Might be too late for chocolate. A few may need sedation.

and they question your sense of humor.

 

[the_mother_thing]

Any from an actual credible source? (Infowars and Breitbart don't count). It sounds awfully contrary to how she has lived her life as far as her bridging racial divides, working with women and children, and also her family has some Jewish background.

Keeping in mind that - when much of what HRC was alleged to have said - the availability of what many consider today as "evidence" (video, audio clips, etc. from cell phones) didn't really exist EXCEPT from witness statements. From the people who were closest to her over the years: http://ijr.com/wildfire/2016/10/710446-11-extremely-vulgar-comments-that-came-out-of-the-mouth-of-hillary-clinton/

Straight from the horse's mouth:
- Against Gandhi: https://youtu.be/xLkFtfyWK3Q
- Her reference to 'super-predators': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0uCrA7ePno in which she also ironically lauds "community policing and local law enforcement efforts" under her hub's crime bill.
- And to which Ice Cube also felt contributed to the launch of the BLM effort: https://youtu.be/Oja7kVKfqac

Even the NY Times published this opinion piece in the '08 cycle: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/09/opinion/09fri1.html?pagewanted=print

But we believe just as strongly that Mrs. Clinton will be making a terrible mistake — for herself, her party and for the nation — if she continues to press her candidacy through negative campaigning with disturbing racial undertones.

Perhaps she forgot that bit of advice when this last election cycle rolled around.

And about that pesky border & immigration issue: https://youtu.be/AUB3CUzD-oo

The top one, again repeating he said she said, the vast majority of "references" are not from people close to her, but from anti-Hillary books, such as people who write tabloid books or people with axes to grind (Bill's ex-lover).

I can't look at youtube videos at work. I have heard the super predators one, but again I don't see any compelling info she goes around regularly using "kike" or other anti semitic terms other than from dubious sources which have been previously critiqued (but still repeated).

But feel free to use Hillary as your excuse for defending Trump.

1) See the above larger, purple text that I stated AND used the word "alleged". I remember what cell phones looked like during the 'Clinton era'; they were bricks, no text messages, no audio recording, and certainly no video that - today - helps lead an entire country to play judge & jury before an investigation can even be completed. Witness accounts (then) were all we had to rely upon and accordingly, largely were.

2) No worries, the video links will be there for you later. In the one, she referred to Mahatma Gandhi as "a gas station owner in St. Louis" when quoting him in a speech.

3) I didn't say HRC goes around using this type of language on a regular basis; but it IS part of her 'history' - she made the comments. My post wasn't intended to defend Chump whatsoever (he wasn't even part of the quote); it was in response to your comment asking for credible evidence to Hillary's use of slurs that starkly contrasted her more 'demure public persona'.

4) Why do you & others take EVERY SINGLE COMMENT that has nothing to do with Chump and deflect it to MAKE it about Chump? I'm not following your dive down the rabbit hole with the other stuff you posted ... the thread is about telling the truth from lie.

 

[partgypsy]

JoCoJenn, the reason why (which is buried upthread) I bring up Trump, is that Ruby59 said that she (and other Jewish people) did not vote for Clinton and voted for Trump, BECAUSE hearing that Clinton used the K-word among others, 20 years ago. So yes, it IS relevant what Trump and his associates state about Jewish people as well as other slurs they have made. it IS relevant that David Duke endorsed him and is continuing to endorse him while publishing very anti-Semitic editorials. It is relevant that his closest advisor is "alt-right" supremacist who endorses conspiracy theories.

I get it. Conservatives really HATE Hillary Clinton. It doesn't matter what people say about her even if it is contradictory (she is a lesbian/she was having an affair with Vince Foster, or she is pro-children/she is running a child prostitution ring) and a big percentage will take it in. You can continue to bash her. Or you can focus on what is happening in your country right now (I know, not as much fun).

Myself, I prefer raisinets or heath bars!

 

[Calliecake]

I'll come here first and let you know when I see it. K?

And we can do a mutual happy dance together. I don't dislike you, I don't dislike conservatives, Trump should not be where he is and the sooner we collectively remove him the better off the world as a whole will be. There I said it, no snickers required.

There are many of us here in the US who feel the same way you do Arkieb!

 

[redwood66]

I just wanted to say welcome back, red.

Deb

Aw thank you Deb!

 

[partgypsy]

Really interesting article. What was most interesting, is that if you display facts with misinformation, they cancel each other out. Maybe that's why there is so much "fake news" out there.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/01/170122213557.htm

 

[ruby59]

You did not attempt to parse any of Forsetti's article in how it applies to conservative posters here. Therefore by your post, which I quoted, indicates his entire article applies. Which it does not. That is my opinion.

If I post something wrong I admit it. I don't agree with everything Trump does but meanwhile the left is trying to find, in the right, every psychological defect under the sun to justify why Hillary lost.

Hillary was the wrong candidate, she spoke down to people, people didn't trust her because Trumps team spent millions of money convincing every person that believed his campaign she was even more immoral, untruthful and evil and he was, and my personal favourite she must be untrustworthy or less of a person because she stayed with Bill... and those emails well we are all going to ignore Trump is essentially now doing the same thing. Me personally I don't care jack if the Dem's candidate was a monkey, they would still probably do a better job than Trump. So you see I'm over the fact she lost, and as I keep saying and the point you seem to be missing is that if you had a decent conservative currently in power with moderate or rational views I wouldn't even waste my time posting on here about it.

Trump should never have been your president period. And no we are not "going to get over it" because he is a corrupt immoral extremist.

Any self examination is absent. That is very convenient and not worth the thousands of words the very few conservatives here on PS have used to try to explain it to you. If it makes you feel better to posit that because I don't change my views to yours I must be a defective voter then posit away. Nothing I say will change your mind either.



Here is a bit from Dave Rubin formerly on Young Turks. This is my opinion also.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiVQ8vrGA_8&t=7s


ETA - Actually this need to understand why a conservative here on PS could vote for Trump by some left leaners, for me, is baffling. I would never think to interrogate and bemoan another's choice in our most personal of civic duties.

Dave Rubin puts all progressives in the same basket, correct me but isn't that doing exactly the same thing? O.K I'll stop trying to understand why someone who is Jewish votes for a team that is essentially anti-Jewish, in the case of DF I'll stop attempting to analyse why someone who is Chinese has a wife who supported Trumps team who are again essentially anti-Asian.... I'll just go with the theory it's because you think he's better than Hillary and even though I accept she was a s@&* choice you were incapable of seeing Trump was an even worse one until he does something that effects you and yours personally.

Assuming facts here that Trump is an anti semite.

But I am seeing references to Hillary Clinton that "referred to Jews as 'stupid k***s'"

I am also finding other derogatory remarks she used to describe Jews and African Americans,

Ruby, you need to brush up on your fact versus fiction skills. Any from an actual credible source? (Infowars and Breitbart don't count). It sounds awfully contrary to how she has lived her life as far as her bridging racial divides, working with women and children, and also her family has some Jewish background. Just because you read something, doesn't mean it's true. In contrast, Trump has as his closest advisor, someone who is a white supremacist. That would worry me, as a Jewish (or really any minority) person far more than an off hand remark someone made. And I'm not sure who you are talking to, my friends who are Jewish are highly concerned with the events that have taken place since Trump became president.

So, you premise is that Hillary cannot be anti semetic because "her family has some Jewish backgroumd" What does that even mean?

But then how can Trump be when his son in law and trusted adviser is Jewish. And his wife converted to Judaism, making his grandchildren Jewish as well.

 

[partgypsy]

You did not attempt to parse any of Forsetti's article in how it applies to conservative posters here. Therefore by your post, which I quoted, indicates his entire article applies. Which it does not. That is my opinion.

If I post something wrong I admit it. I don't agree with everything Trump does but meanwhile the left is trying to find, in the right, every psychological defect under the sun to justify why Hillary lost.

Hillary was the wrong candidate, she spoke down to people, people didn't trust her because Trumps team spent millions of money convincing every person that believed his campaign she was even more immoral, untruthful and evil and he was, and my personal favourite she must be untrustworthy or less of a person because she stayed with Bill... and those emails well we are all going to ignore Trump is essentially now doing the same thing. Me personally I don't care jack if the Dem's candidate was a monkey, they would still probably do a better job than Trump. So you see I'm over the fact she lost, and as I keep saying and the point you seem to be missing is that if you had a decent conservative currently in power with moderate or rational views I wouldn't even waste my time posting on here about it.

Trump should never have been your president period. And no we are not "going to get over it" because he is a corrupt immoral extremist.

Any self examination is absent. That is very convenient and not worth the thousands of words the very few conservatives here on PS have used to try to explain it to you. If it makes you feel better to posit that because I don't change my views to yours I must be a defective voter then posit away. Nothing I say will change your mind either.



Here is a bit from Dave Rubin formerly on Young Turks. This is my opinion also.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiVQ8vrGA_8&t=7s


ETA - Actually this need to understand why a conservative here on PS could vote for Trump by some left leaners, for me, is baffling. I would never think to interrogate and bemoan another's choice in our most personal of civic duties.

Dave Rubin puts all progressives in the same basket, correct me but isn't that doing exactly the same thing? O.K I'll stop trying to understand why someone who is Jewish votes for a team that is essentially anti-Jewish, in the case of DF I'll stop attempting to analyse why someone who is Chinese has a wife who supported Trumps team who are again essentially anti-Asian.... I'll just go with the theory it's because you think he's better than Hillary and even though I accept she was a s@&* choice you were incapable of seeing Trump was an even worse one until he does something that effects you and yours personally.

Assuming facts here that Trump is an anti semite.

But I am seeing references to Hillary Clinton that "referred to Jews as 'stupid k***s'"

I am also finding other derogatory remarks she used to describe Jews and African Americans,

Ruby, you need to brush up on your fact versus fiction skills. Any from an actual credible source? (Infowars and Breitbart don't count). It sounds awfully contrary to how she has lived her life as far as her bridging racial divides, working with women and children, and also her family has some Jewish background. Just because you read something, doesn't mean it's true. In contrast, Trump has as his closest advisor, someone who is a white supremacist. That would worry me, as a Jewish (or really any minority) person far more than an off hand remark someone made. And I'm not sure who you are talking to, my friends who are Jewish are highly concerned with the events that have taken place since Trump became president.

So, you premise is that Hillary cannot be anti semetic because "her family has some Jewish backgroumd" What does that even mean?

But then how can Trump be when his son in law and trusted adviser is Jewish. And his wife converted to Judaism, making his grandchildren Jewish as well.

Even Hitler has some Jewish ancestry you are right, it is probably not relevant in either case. Can we at least agree the "k*ke" quote was from over 20 years ago from a dubious source? Did you read any of the rest of what I posted?