AGS0 1.507 J SI2 - What to look for in person?

[noobiediamond]

http://www.agslab.com/pdf_sync_reports/104051267001-PLDQR.PDF

Depth 62.4
Table 57.5
Crown Angle 35.1
Pavillion Angle 41.2
Crown Height 14.9
Pavillion Depth 43.7

HCA score is close to 4 which is concerning.

Price is roughly $9 grand from a local jeweler.

What should I look for when I go see it???

 

[confusedaisy]

First of all, a quick search on the PS diamond search shows that you can get a 1.5 J SI2 GIA and AGS stones for around 6500-8000 so it seems like you're way over paying right there (even blue nile stones are in the mid 8000s). Second, with your budget, I think you could find a very nice GIA EX/EX/EX 1.5 J SI1.

Just found this stone if you have no problems with flourescence:

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamond/diamond-detail/?product_id=BLAGS-104049675017

Last, I hope someone will chime in on the AGS report- there seems to be a LOT of light leakage for the diamond to be considered an AGS000. Any ideas?

 

[0-0-0]

I'm surprised that stone received an AGS Ideal cut grade. I don't think those angles work well together. The crystals may not be eye-clean, especially if they are dark.

+1 BG Blue

 

[farmer gal]

No, and by judging by the AGS images there is a lot of light leakage, I wouldn't consider that stone. I don't know what your total budget is but this looks like a really beautiful stone, no tax either.

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/J-SI1-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1324901.asp

Light Return Excellent
Fire Excellent
Scintillation Excellent
Spread
or diameter for weight Very Good
Total Visual Performance 1.2 - Excellent
within TIC range

 

[confusedaisy]

No, and by judging by the AGS images there is a lot of light leakage, I wouldn't consider that stone. I don't know what your total budget is but this looks like a really beautiful stone, no tax either.

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/J-SI1-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1324901.asp

Light Return Excellent
Fire Excellent
Scintillation Excellent
Spread
or diameter for weight Very Good
Total Visual Performance 1.2 - Excellent
within TIC range

You always have to pay taxes on these purchases - FYI. If not today, then tomorrow...
Also, that stone does not seem like it will be eye clean IMO.

I hope someone else will chime in on the AGS question. I have an AGS000 and it upsets me to think that a stone like this could be considered "Ideal"

 

[slg47]

No, and by judging by the AGS images there is a lot of light leakage, I wouldn't consider that stone. I don't know what your total budget is but this looks like a really beautiful stone, no tax either.

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/J-SI1-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1324901.asp

Light Return Excellent
Fire Excellent
Scintillation Excellent
Spread
or diameter for weight Very Good
Total Visual Performance 1.2 - Excellent
within TIC range

You always have to pay taxes on these purchases - FYI. If not today, then tomorrow...
Also, that stone does not seem like it will be eye clean IMO.

I hope someone else will chime in on the AGS question. I have an AGS000 and it upsets me to think that a stone like this could be considered "Ideal"

not all AGS0 are equal.

 

[farmer gal]

As far as the taxes go I meant the price from the jeweler around 9000 is probably not including taxes. Also love BGD but the one you are recommending also does not have a good HCA score

Light Return Very Good
Fire Good
Scintillation Good
Spread
or diameter for weight Very Good
Total Visual Performance 3.7 - Very Good - Worth buying if the price is right

 

[slg47]

wrt BGD one...HCA does not matter as the ASET/IS looks good.

 

[asymons412]

I have been drooling over BGD Blues for some time now... another vote for BGD!

 

[noobiediamond]

Is it worth it to me to get an Idealscope or ASET on this stone?

The story is I have a EGL stone now and need to buy the "updgrade" from this jeweler. Unfortunately at this moment I won't be able to buy online. I wish I could redue my original purchase but it doesnt look it that will happen.

 

[confusedaisy]

No, and by judging by the AGS images there is a lot of light leakage, I wouldn't consider that stone. I don't know what your total budget is but this looks like a really beautiful stone, no tax either.

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/J-SI1-Ideal-Cut-Round-Diamond-1324901.asp

Light Return Excellent
Fire Excellent
Scintillation Excellent
Spread
or diameter for weight Very Good
Total Visual Performance 1.2 - Excellent
within TIC range

You always have to pay taxes on these purchases - FYI. If not today, then tomorrow...
Also, that stone does not seem like it will be eye clean IMO.

I hope someone else will chime in on the AGS question. I have an AGS000 and it upsets me to think that a stone like this could be considered "Ideal"

not all AGS0 are equal.

I was under the impression that with an AGS 0 you were assured a well cut and brilliant stone. I guess my biggest question is, with all of the light leakage in the center, and the HCA score, how can this stone have been graded a 0. I guess I'm just confused (hence my name...)

 

[confusedaisy]

wrt BGD one...HCA does not matter as the ASET/IS looks good.

Yes- I don't bother using the HCA if I have access to its IS.

Ah, farmer, I see what you mean about the taxes... still, I think the price is a bit steep.

Noobie- tough spot. I don't think it would hurt to get the IS image- but what I'm more worried with is that he seems to be charging you a lot more for what you're getting. As I stated earlier, a 1.5 J SI2 for 9K seems steep.

 

[farmer gal]

what are the details of the diamond you are going to be trading in for it

 

[noobiediamond]

EGL 1.21 D color and SI1 61/59. EGL says excellent everything the leakage is horrible. It was cut for weight for sure.

 

[farmer gal]

Here is another thought but maybe you just want larger BGD http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/ recuts diamonds. I have a loose EGL diamond myself that I am thinking about doing this to. You loose size but the transformation is amazing. diamondseeker just had this done by him here is the link [URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/details-on-a-diamond-re-cut.160957/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/details-on-a-diamond-re-cut.160957/[/URL]
I asked on the forum how much it costs and was told it is around 350 per carat, and 100-150 to send it off to be AGS certified.