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AGS to open lab in Antwerp

Discussion in 'RockyTalky' started by horsenito1, Nov 23, 2004.

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  1. horsenito1
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    by horsenito1 » Nov 23, 2004
    AGS is going to open a lab here in Antwerp.

    The ''American'' Gem Society isn''t that American any longer.
     
  2. Paul-Antwerp
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    by Paul-Antwerp » Nov 23, 2004
    This information is incorrect.

    I suppose that there will be an official announcement on something in the following weeks, but that they are opening a lab here is definitely incorrect.

    Live long,
     
  3. horsenito1
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    by horsenito1 » Nov 23, 2004
    The information is confirmed. AGS opens a lab in Antwerp.
     
  4. Paul-Antwerp
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    by Paul-Antwerp » Nov 23, 2004
    Jose,

    You have three posts here in a presence of 10 months: 2 now about AGS apparently opening in Antwerp, and 1 about GIA opening in Antwerp in February.

    Please stop this before someone starts to believe you.

    Live long,
     
  5. horsenito1
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    by horsenito1 » Nov 23, 2004
    Paul, expect an AGS press release very soon about their lab opening in Antwerp.
    It is confirmed.

    BTW I never wrote that GIA was going to open anywhere.
    Moreover, how many times I wrote here has nothing to do with the accuracy of this information.
     
  6. Paul-Antwerp
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    by Paul-Antwerp » Nov 23, 2004
    Jose,

    Please wait for the press release, read it carefully, and then come back here to declare that your info was incorrect.

    It does not matter if this gossip has been confirmed, it remains gossip. Even worse, incorrect gossip.
     
  7. horsenito1
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    by horsenito1 » Nov 24, 2004
    Paul, your hostile tone is not necessary.
    May be you should explain why you seem so upset about this news.
    In the meantime, I am very surprised no one else has commented on this issue in here.
    AGS having Belgian partners seems weird.

    Live long!
     
  8. Paul-Antwerp
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    by Paul-Antwerp » Nov 24, 2004
    Jose,

    Sorry, it is not my intention to sound or even be hostile.

    I just want to make clear that your info is incorrect. At the same time, I think that if this incorrect info spreads, it might cause a lot of gossip, and maybe commercial harm to AGS.

    That is why I am so adamant in my reaction. Nobody needs incorrect info.

    Live long,
     
  9. strmrdr
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    by strmrdr » Nov 24, 2004
    Your reaction Paul has me more curious than his comments.
    With the long waits to get certs today and the higher demand for faster turn around on the diamonds as the supply chain is tightened it makes perfect sence for both gia and ags to set up shop there.
    As long as they maintain the same standards as their other labs I dont see a problem.
     
  10. Garry H (Cut Nut)
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    by Garry H (Cut Nut) » Jan 23, 2005
    Paul was of course correct. The story has now been releeased here on Rapnet http://www.diamonds.net/news/newsitem.asp?num=11208&type=all&topic=all

    Here is an excerpt:
    The AGS Laboratories has entered into an agreement with Elmyr Services of Antwerp to operate a take-in window in Belgium. The new take-in window will start providing services the first week of February 2005.

    “It’s a very synergetic relationship,” said Peter Yantzer, Executive Director of AGS Laboratories. “AGS Laboratories and Elmyr are dedicated to excellent customer service, and we both have a focus on utilizing the latest technology to serve our clients. We’re looking forward to giving the diamond industry in Antwerp more choices for diamond documents.”


    For more information regarding AGS Laboratories products and services, please call (702) 233-6120 or visit the website at www.agslab.com. For information on Elmyr, please call 32 (0) 475 24 44 04 or visit the website at http://www.elmyrservices.com.

    I have met the good people at Elmyr - and Paul has often posted links to his stones that have been photographed with Ideal-scopes and scanned etc. It is a great fit with AGS, and while I do not know for a fact - I suspect that Paul actually brokered the intro [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
     
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    by dobie » Jan 23, 2005
    What exactly is a take-in window? Elmyr Services takes in the diamonds, grades them and issues AGS documents?
     
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  13. diagem
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    by diagem » Jan 24, 2005
    Just like the GIA and Rapaport teamed up to have loads of uncerted diamonds shipped for vacations to NY and Carlsbad from all over the world, especialy the major diamond manufacturing cities....
     
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    by strmrdr » Jan 24, 2005
    What it most likely means is that they will have a courier service running to the American AGS labs a few days a week and combine shipments so the cutters can save a lot of money of shipping them to and from the lab.
    Shipping small amounts of diamonds can cost just as much as sending a larger batch so by doing this it makes it more economical to ship them to the ags labs by splitting the cost up on a larger shipment .

    My guess is they will have someone that actually gets on a plane with them as carry on with an armed escort to the airport and an armed escort waiting at the other end.
    You can fit several million dollars worth of diamonds in a carry on size case.
    The biggest hassle will likely be paperwork getting them thru customs ( kimderly certs and what not) by having a system set up for dealing with it they can save time and money.

    Paul can probable verify if im currect in my guess.
     
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    by JohnQuixote » Jan 24, 2005
    Now Paul can wrap himself in a briefke for shipment to JCK.
     
  16. strmrdr
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    by strmrdr » Jan 24, 2005
    Rofl
    I dont know if that is scary or funny!
     
  17. belle
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    by belle » Jan 24, 2005
    [​IMG]
     
  18. JohnQuixote
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    by JohnQuixote » Jan 24, 2005
    Don't worry, Belle.

    I'm sure he'll come back VS or better.
     
  19. Lord Summerisle
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    by Lord Summerisle » Jan 24, 2005
    Darn! i hate LOLing in a full office... makes ppl wonder what im upto! [​IMG]
     
  20. Paul-Antwerp
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    by Paul-Antwerp » Jan 24, 2005
    I honestly do not know if my personal outdated cut will still qualify for AGS-ideal. My girlfriend would certainly put question-marks on proportions and definitely on polish. I may get away with excellent polish.

    On the other hand, if we look at light performance, Gary will agree that I have a combination of ''light'' (as in weight) and ''performance''.

    Going back to serious matters, I am very happy that the company which independently takes pictures and measurements of our stones, gets a serious pad on the back by it being good enough to serve as the Antwerp representative for AGS.

    My involvement in this however does not go any further than vouching with both parties that the other party is trustworthy. When Gary calls this brokering, this is highly exaggerated and out of context.

    Anyway, I think that both parites concluded an interesting deal both for them, as for the whole of the Antwerp cutting community.

    Live long,
     
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