bostondiamonds
Rough_Rock
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- Dec 14, 2005
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I was told the ASET only works for Round and Princess diamonds. Is this true? Does the AGS support it''s use for Radiant, Cushion, or Asscher?
Date: 12/14/2005 10:21:53 PM
Author: DiamondExpert
What about the emerald square cut (''Asscher'')? Will the ASET be useful face up or only with the tilt?
AGS I think will weight more to face up.Date: 12/14/2005 11:53:57 PM
Author: strmrdr
Date: 12/14/2005 10:21:53 PM
Author: DiamondExpert
What about the emerald square cut (''Asscher'')? Will the ASET be useful face up or only with the tilt?
face up its kicken for looking at the patterns, tilt a bit to check things.
What im finding with asschers is that if the ASET is good face up its usualy good tilted too.
The proper angle relationship is evident face up.
using both helium data based and DC created examples iv spent hours looking it over.
AGSS uses 45 degrees each way of tilt.
my 2c anyway from studying the ASET and asscher cuts.
Date: 12/15/2005 10:02:17 AM
Author: bostondiamonds
Sorry. I'm new to this whole thing. Tilt and AGS angles don't mean much to me (yet!)
As a consumer if I purchased a handheld ASET or Ideal-Scope and brought it with me;
1. Would I anger the jewler?
2. When comparing diamonds would it help me evaluate which ones were cut better?
3. Which tool would aid me (if at all) in evaluating cut quality?
as a consumer your option would be to use the idealscopeDate: 12/15/2005 10:02:17 AM
Author: bostondiamonds
Sorry. I''m new to this whole thing. Tilt and AGS angles don''t mean much to me (yet!)
As a consumer if I purchased a handheld ASET or Ideal-Scope and brought it with me;
1. Would I anger the jewler?
2. When comparing diamonds would it help me evaluate which ones were cut better?
3. Which tool would aid me (if at all) in evaluating cut quality?
i would encourage you to find a jeweler that is at least accepting of reflector devices. if you know what you are looking for and don''t reject otherwise nice diamonds based on what you *think* you should be seeing, there should not be a problem.1. Would I anger the jewler?
yes, as long as you understand what you are looking for2. When comparing diamonds would it help me evaluate which ones were cut better?
again, as long as you understand what to look for, an idealscope can be helfpful in finding well cut stones.3. Which tool would aid me (if at all) in evaluating cut quality?
Date: 12/14/2005 10:04:45 PM
Author: Garry H (Cut Nut)
as you see a great ideal-scope or ASET does not assure you of a great stone.
Think in dimensions Ana.Date: 12/16/2005 4:18:49 AM
Author: valeria101
Date: 12/14/2005 10:04:45 PM
Author: Garry H (Cut Nut)
as you see a great ideal-scope or ASET does not assure you of a great stone.
Why is that an great IS/ASET of the flat square - the lack of contrast is just as visible in any of the pictures: ASET, IS and white light...
On a different thread you mentioned that ASET is more helpful with fancies than IS. To me, this is so because it breaks down the ''red'' showing (lack of) contrast where the IS would loose this as barely visible variations of reds.
Am I seeing things?
Also, is it always the case that such flat areas appear as leakage on the chosen 30 degrees tilt? Intuitively... not, but I didn''t check.
Anyway...
The effects of azimuth shifts show on the face up projections though.Date: 12/16/2005 7:19:20 AM
Author: Garry H (Cut Nut)
Think in dimensions Ana.
ASET breaks into 3 levels of 2D where Ideal-scope is 2levels of 2 dimensions. The third dimensin is azimuth - and neither does this 3rd dimension
interesting comment Garry the blue is needed for patterns.Date: 12/16/2005 3:49:01 AM
Author: Garry H (Cut Nut)
excellent demo Storm.
I think that stone might have just a little too much blue in the table - it would look a little like a round diamond with 40 p and 32 crown