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allygirl

allygirl

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Many have mentioned AGS 0 to be a safe bet. I need to have this explained so that when I ask the jeweler about getting a diamond like this, I know exactly what I am talking about. I have looked around on the boards and cannot find an explanation. AGS is the lab obviously...what is the zero for?
 
Belle beat me to the same thread in the FAQ section. JohnQ reliably does a very nice job with this sort of detail.
 
Ally, what you need to understand is that there are far more diamonds available that are graded by GIA. So you can''t restrict your vendor to ONLY AGS diamonds or you''re going to be extremely limited in your selection. If a diamond is graded by GIA and is excellent cut, then it is a very simple matter to plug the numbers into the HCA on this site and see if it also falls into the AGS0 qualifications. I have o idea if this is true or not, but I''d imagine that there are far more diamonds that fall into the AGS0 parameters that are GIA graded as opposed to those that are AGS graded because of the much larger number of stones that are graded by GIA. I''m sure one of the experts here could confirm whether than is true or not. But just don''t eliminate GIA excellents until you check out the numbers on here!!!
 
I have an AGS O and it is an amazing stone! I highly recommend going this route. Other have explained it well.

I would decide on a color range, clarity range, and size range you are willing to go. And then tell them that you ONLY want AGS certified stones and ONLY want the ideal cut/"triple zero" on cut for the certificate.

Don''t let them talk you into anything less on cut!
 
Date: 8/8/2006 10:12:32 AM
Author: diamondseeker2006
Ally, what you need to understand is that there are far more diamonds available that are graded by GIA. So you can''t restrict your vendor to ONLY AGS diamonds or you''re going to be extremely limited in your selection. If a diamond is graded by GIA and is excellent cut, then it is a very simple matter to plug the numbers into the HCA on this site and see if it also falls into the AGS0 qualifications.
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Although all we have is visual analysis, ultimately....the thing is this...

If you want to add in confirming evaluation by proportions, how reliable is GIA reporting, to help you do this?

I asked this question here, and believe I understood, especially with JulieN''s help, that your odds are good by using HCA, regardless.

Without working with a particularly trusted jeweler, I''m not sure what premium I''d want to pay to get more than a high likelihood of good performance, based on an analysis of proportions. Correspondingly, if I want to have this data checked, I''m also not sure how good I need the appraiser''s equipment to be.

AGS0 does satisfy some of these questions...typically...somewhat at a cost.
 
Date: 8/8/2006 10:12:32 AM
Author: diamondseeker2006
Ally, what you need to understand is that there are far more diamonds available that are graded by GIA. So you can''t restrict your vendor to ONLY AGS diamonds or you''re going to be extremely limited in your selection.
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I''d agree that considering only AGS stone does shrink the pool of available choices, but I think it''s an overstatement to claim it would "extremely limit" one''s selection.

I can find a plethora of AGS stones with no problem at all; it only gets tougher when you hit the in-demand, larger stones, and those are in short supply through most labs, not just AGS.

I think she absolutely CAN choose to restrict her search if she''s decided she wants something very specific. It''s really no different than you saying you wouldn''t consider below VS, even though there are plenty of eyeclean SI stones. Everyone has their own personal tolerances, and that can include lab preference.

AGS carries a really solid reputation for stringency in grading color and clarity (even more so than GIA in some instances according to the comparisons done here a couple of years ago), and GIA does suffer the perception of less accuracy due to insistence on rounding.

People should absolutely be as discriminating as they wish on a purchase of this magnitude.
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Gosh, alj, this is confusing to have two threads bascially talking about the same thing! I think the post I just made would have better fit here, btu I can''t keep them all straight! Anyway, here is what I posted:

alj, this would be SO much easier if she was looking for stones online! I technically agree with you. I''d feel safe with an AGS0. But because of these numbers, I am making an assumption that GIA grades a tremendously larger number of stones per year than does AGS:
Internet Diamond Listings July 2004
GIA........72.9%
EGL........22.8%
AGS........2.5%
IGI........1.4%
HRD........0.4%

So if this assumption is true, then it is likely that her jeweler has access to far more GIA excellents than he does AGS0 stones. I was just promoting the idea that the selection would be broader if she included GIA stones that met AGS0 specs. But if the jeweler has access to suppliers with a plentiful number of AGS0 stones, then finding one that meets her qualifications should not be hard. I just felt like going in and saying she''d only look at AGS stones was a little on the restrictive side.



 
Sounds to me like most of you are buying online when purchasing the diamond. Do you think that would be a wiser choice for me? I want a round 1.25-1.50.

I just thought that purchasing from the store where I am purchasing the setting was the way to go because I could see it before purchase.

Any more thoughts?

(sorry for the confusion on having two threads so close going at once)

I am just really trying to gather as much information so I have the knowledge before I make the purchase! THANKS!
 
Yes, we do think you have a better selection of quality stones online. Some of the vendors have supplemental information on the stones which is very helpful in making a selection. I found the prices in the regular jewlery stores on the high side. They were charging about the same for a premium cut diamond with EGL certs as these vendors do for ideal/excellent cut with GIA/AGS.

I''m sure we can post some for you to consider. I was looking at a beautiful 1.37 recently that may still be available. I even have pictures of that stone. But I have to run some errands and will have to get back with you later!

(Oh, and it wasn''t your other thread that was the confusing one! It was another one discussing GIA and AGS).
 
Date: 8/8/2006 3:28:23 PM
Author: allygirl

Sounds to me like most of you are buying online when purchasing the diamond. Do you think that would be a wiser choice for me? I want a round 1.25-1.50.
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it just depends on what is best for you. personally, i found that the diamonds were much better (cut wise) online and the prices were unbeatable. you can do a search and see what is in that size range online.
 
Date: 8/8/2006 10:12:32 AM
Author: diamondseeker2006
Ally, what you need to understand is that there are far more diamonds available that are graded by GIA. So you can''t restrict your vendor to ONLY AGS diamonds or you''re going to be extremely limited in your selection. If a diamond is graded by GIA and is excellent cut, then it is a very simple matter to plug the numbers into the HCA on this site and see if it also falls into the AGS0 qualifications. I have o idea if this is true or not, but I''d imagine that there are far more diamonds that fall into the AGS0 parameters that are GIA graded as opposed to those that are AGS graded because of the much larger number of stones that are graded by GIA. I''m sure one of the experts here could confirm whether than is true or not. But just don''t eliminate GIA excellents until you check out the numbers on here!!!
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Actually many stones may have the numbers but still not get the coveted AGS 0 cut grade because of polish or symmetry. Frankly, if a stone will get an AGS 0 cut grade, that is where many, if not most vendors will send the stone because the AGS 0 cut grade is more sought after and respected than the GIA Excellent cut grade.

While it is true that GIA grades more stones still, the AGS is grading more and more stones every month as more people decide that this is what they really want for assurance that they are getting a truly top quality cut on their diamond.

Wink
 
I would LOVE to see that 1.37 stone that you were writing about. PLEASE do let me know when you get back and have that information for me. THANKS AGAIN!

Also, if you know of several places that are good to purchase from , I''d love the names.

My jeweler does not set the diamond for me. That''s what worries me. If I purchase a diamond elsewhere, then they send it to Verragio to set it. I realize that most diamonds have the numbers enscribed on them, but I feel that that would not make me feel that I was really getting my diamond back. Perhaps they could laser enscribe it on a different diamond and send that back to me. (I''m a bit nervous, can you tell???)

Is that the standard when purchasing a setting? Or is this just because this is the way that Verragio does this?
 
i think i mentioned this in your other thread...
you can use the ''pricescope your diamond'' tool and select ''cut quality search'' or ''in house'' the vendors that turn up are all extremely reputable and trustworthy. they could probably even order the verragio that you are looking for as well.
 
Date: 8/8/2006 4:23:26 PM
Author: allygirl
I would LOVE to see that 1.37 stone that you were writing about. PLEASE do let me know when you get back and have that information for me. THANKS AGAIN!


Also, if you know of several places that are good to purchase from , I''d love the names.


My jeweler does not set the diamond for me. That''s what worries me. If I purchase a diamond elsewhere, then they send it to Verragio to set it. I realize that most diamonds have the numbers enscribed on them, but I feel that that would not make me feel that I was really getting my diamond back. Perhaps they could laser enscribe it on a different diamond and send that back to me. (I''m a bit nervous, can you tell???)


Is that the standard when purchasing a setting? Or is this just because this is the way that Verragio does this?
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Goodoldgold, Whiteflash, jamesallen, Winfields and engagementringdirect all have great reputations here and I''d purchase from any of them. Many times it will come down to who has the stone in stock that you are looking for.

You can have and independant appraiser look at your stone and they can probably ship it to Verragio for you and then verify it''s the same stone when it''s completed. It also helps to be able to recognize your diamond, like seeing and inclusion or something under a loupe. that way you will know it''s yours. people send their stones off all the time to be set by designers and i don''t think there are very many problems. I wouldn''t be worried about it.
 
Date: 8/8/2006 3:24:49 PM
Author: diamondseeker2006

Gosh, alj, this is confusing to have two threads bascially talking about the same thing! I think the post I just made would have better fit here, btu I can''t keep them all straight!

I know! I''m finding that too!
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Anyway, here is what I posted:

alj, this would be SO much easier if she was looking for stones online! I technically agree with you. I''d feel safe with an AGS0. But because of these numbers, I am making an assumption that GIA grades a tremendously larger number of stones per year than does AGS:
Internet Diamond Listings July 2004
GIA........72.9%
EGL........22.8%
AGS........2.5%
IGI........1.4%
HRD........0.4%
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I think one of the problems with numbers is they can say anything, and their relevance can be misinterpreted.
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The numbers you listed are for July 2004.....that''s over 2 years ago. In those two years, I''ve seen a much greater awareness of AGS than had existed previously, so that''s bound to impact things today. The cost of a house in my neighborhood was $70K less two years ago than it is today......things change, and fast!
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Also, that says "Internet Diamond Listings". What does that mean? We don''t know. I personally suspect it means ''all diamonds available'', which of course would include non ideal stones and lesser-make stones as well. It''s likely broad enough to include the database of 50,000 or so virtual stones, the greatest bulk of which are not top-make sotnes.

If this table reflected ONLY AGS0 stones or GIA ex stones makes, I suspect the percentages would be less disparate.

Also, keep in mind that in 2004, GIA didn''t grade cut quality. AGS, however, did. Considering that an AGS grading report was (and I think still is) more expensive than a GIA report, it stands to reason that most of the AGS stones are likely top-make stones. Why would the dealers/cutters pay the AGS premium unless the stones would make the top grade and command top dollar? They wouldn''t.

Conversely, it made more sense at that time to run less-than-premium make stones through GIA because they wouln''t get dinged for cut, the grading report would be less costly, and GIA is still a very reputable lab to most of the general public.

Percentage of diamonds graded by a lab doesn''t really mean anything unless you know how many top-shelf stones that translates to.
 
Date: 8/8/2006 4:12:51 PM
Author: Wink


Date: 8/8/2006 10:12:32 AM
Author: diamondseeker2006
Ally, what you need to understand is that there are far more diamonds available that are graded by GIA. So you can't restrict your vendor to ONLY AGS diamonds or you're going to be extremely limited in your selection. If a diamond is graded by GIA and is excellent cut, then it is a very simple matter to plug the numbers into the HCA on this site and see if it also falls into the AGS0 qualifications. I have o idea if this is true or not, but I'd imagine that there are far more diamonds that fall into the AGS0 parameters that are GIA graded as opposed to those that are AGS graded because of the much larger number of stones that are graded by GIA. I'm sure one of the experts here could confirm whether than is true or not. But just don't eliminate GIA excellents until you check out the numbers on here!!!
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Actually many stones may have the numbers but still not get the coveted AGS 0 cut grade because of polish or symmetry. Frankly, if a stone will get an AGS 0 cut grade, that is where many, if not most vendors will send the stone because the AGS 0 cut grade is more sought after and respected than the GIA Excellent cut grade.

While it is true that GIA grades more stones still, the AGS is grading more and more stones every month as more people decide that this is what they really want for assurance that they are getting a truly top quality cut on their diamond.

Wink
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Totally concur with this, and that's what I was getting at. If a stone *can* achieve an AGS0, vendors would want to send it to AGS because it will command a premium price in the marketplace.

And to Wink's point, yes, GIA grades more total stones, but that doesn't mean they grade more of the cream-of-the-crop stones. It would be interesting to discover how many of the creme-de-la-creme stones GIA actually grades in a month or year compared to AGS.......by that I mean, stones that would qualify for AGS0 cut grade, not just GIA ex.
 
Date: 8/8/2006 5:42:01 PM
Author: aljdewey

Date: 8/8/2006 3:24:49 PM
Author: diamondseeker2006


Gosh, alj, this is confusing to have two threads bascially talking about the same thing! I think the post I just made would have better fit here, btu I can''t keep them all straight!

I know! I''m finding that too!
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Anyway, here is what I posted:

alj, this would be SO much easier if she was looking for stones online! I technically agree with you. I''d feel safe with an AGS0. But because of these numbers, I am making an assumption that GIA grades a tremendously larger number of stones per year than does AGS:

Internet Diamond Listings July 2004
GIA........72.9%
EGL........22.8%
AGS........2.5%
IGI........1.4%
HRD........0.4%

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I think one of the problems with numbers is they can say anything, and their relevance can be misinterpreted.
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The numbers you listed are for July 2004.....that''s over 2 years ago. In those two years, I''ve seen a much greater awareness of AGS than had existed previously, so that''s bound to impact things today. The cost of a house in my neighborhood was $70K less two years ago than it is today......things change, and fast!
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Also, that says ''Internet Diamond Listings''. What does that mean? We don''t know. I personally suspect it means ''all diamonds available'', which of course would include non ideal stones and lesser-make stones as well. It''s likely broad enough to include the database of 50,000 or so virtual stones, the greatest bulk of which are not top-make sotnes.

If this table reflected ONLY AGS0 stones or GIA ex stones makes, I suspect the percentages would be less disparate.

Also, keep in mind that in 2004, GIA didn''t grade cut quality. AGS, however, did. Considering that an AGS grading report was (and I think still is) more expensive than a GIA report, it stands to reason that most of the AGS stones are likely top-make stones. Why would the dealers/cutters pay the AGS premium unless the stones would make the top grade and command top dollar? They wouldn''t.

Conversely, it made more sense at that time to run less-than-premium make stones through GIA because they wouln''t get dinged for cut, the grading report would be less costly, and GIA is still a very reputable lab to most of the general public.

Percentage of diamonds graded by a lab doesn''t really mean anything unless you know how many top-shelf stones that translates to.
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Alj, I copied those numbers straight off this site, so perhaps the administrators might be able to explain the meaning of the chart and possibly replace it with more updated numbers.
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My only point is that out of the many stones GIA grades, there are still SOME great H&A stones graded by them, so to dismiss all GIA stones is really throwing the baby out with the bathwater. I think Mara would agree with me that there are beautiful GIA graded H&A stones! I''ve seen a few pictures if hers.
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Lots of others around here, too!
 
WOW! Things are getting confusing FOR ME that is!

DS, Thank you so much for your help! I really like that 1.37 but I do have to admit that I did see alot of yellow in it. Any thoughts????

I am really really considering purchasing online. Goodoldgold and what other sites? Jamesallen, etc....How about BlueNile????

thanks again! I really do appreciate your help!
 
Date: 8/8/2006 4:32:09 PM
Author: mrssalvo
Date: 8/8/2006 4:23:26 PM

Author: allygirl

I would LOVE to see that 1.37 stone that you were writing about. PLEASE do let me know when you get back and have that information for me. THANKS AGAIN!



Also, if you know of several places that are good to purchase from , I''d love the names.



My jeweler does not set the diamond for me. That''s what worries me. If I purchase a diamond elsewhere, then they send it to Verragio to set it. I realize that most diamonds have the numbers enscribed on them, but I feel that that would not make me feel that I was really getting my diamond back. Perhaps they could laser enscribe it on a different diamond and send that back to me. (I''m a bit nervous, can you tell???)



Is that the standard when purchasing a setting? Or is this just because this is the way that Verragio does this?
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here


Goodoldgold, Whiteflash, jamesallen, Winfields and engagementringdirect all have great reputations here and I''d purchase from any of them. Many times it will come down to who has the stone in stock that you are looking for.


You can have and independant appraiser look at your stone and they can probably ship it to Verragio for you and then verify it''s the same stone when it''s completed. It also helps to be able to recognize your diamond, like seeing and inclusion or something under a loupe. that way you will know it''s yours. people send their stones off all the time to be set by designers and i don''t think there are very many problems. I wouldn''t be worried about it.
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Ally, I was standing next to the azalea bushes and magnolia tree and you are seeing a greenish yellow reflection from those (see my avatar for more examples! This is what the stone looks like in natural daylight with no flash. The 1.37 is on the right. If you prefer a higher color, there is nothing wrong with that. But neither of these stones has any yellow or I wouldn't have kept either one!

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DS,

It appears to me that you would HIGHLY recommend that 1.37????

Being so new to this, I am very curious about what each stone has. Would you have purchased the 1.37 if it were the larger stone? Did you like everything about the 1.37 except for the size? thanks!
 
Ally, yes I honestly would have purchased it had I decided to stay under 1.5 or if it had been the larger stone. In fact, they brought this stone in specifically for me because I was thinking I wanted near a 1.4 at the time. I was very fond of the 1.63 but felt is was too big for me and was more than we had planned to spend. But I decided to have them send me both stones just to be sure. After tons of people urged me to go for the larger stone, I decided that I''d go for it! It will be our 30th anniversary, so I figured it is now or never! The 1.37 is an ISee2 branded stone, which is a hearts and arrows stone with particularly good brillance. Ellen on this site has one of the Isee2 stones as well, and hers is also about 1.4 carats.

I only looked at AGS and GIA stones that met AGS0 standards, so these stones both met those qualifications (and is an AGS0). I was picky about color and clarity. This stone had 3 very highs on the brillancescope and a 9.6 out of 10 on the ISee2.

My current diamond is F color, so I was honestly fearful about going down in color. But the H color allowed me to get a larger stone than I otherwise would have. I also looked at G''s, but these best fit my qualifications at the time. I ordered both stones to be sure about size and color. Of course the clarity was excellent on both, so you can see no inclusions even with a loupe. Everyone is different in their color preferences, so I cannot be sure you''d have the same preferences as I do. There are girls on here with J and K color stones that they love, and there are those who wouldn''t go below D-F. I think G-H is a good compromise, personally, because it is at the top of the near colorless range, but there is significant savings over D-F.

If I can answer any other questions, I''ll be happy to do so! I looked in the 1.3-1.5 size range for 6 months, so I have memorized a few of the sites! Lol!
 
Date: 8/8/2006 7:22:29 PM
Author: diamondseeker2006

My only point is that out of the many stones GIA grades, there are still SOME great H&A stones graded by them, so to dismiss all GIA stones is really throwing the baby out with the bathwater. I think Mara would agree with me that there are beautiful GIA graded H&A stones!
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DS, I think you''re misinterpreting what I''m saying.

I''m not at all disputing that GIA grades some very lovely H&A stones. I''d agree wholeheartedly with that as well. I don''t know why you think I disagree with it.
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All I''m saying is this: if one specifically wants a stone that fits AGS0 parameters, it makes sense to begin stones that are already *known* AGS0 stones. It doesn''t seem that complex a notion to me. I''m not saying that one shouldn''t consider a great GIA stone, but I am saying that it doesn''t make sense (to me, anyway) to do *more* work to determine if a GIA stone fits AGS0 if there are actually AGS0 possibilities.

I guess the best way I can compare it is this: if I know I want a used Toyota, it makes sense to begin my search at Toyota dealerships. Sure, it''s possible that 2nd tier dealers may have them, or Chevy places may have Toyotas that have been traded in, and if I couldn''t find an acceptable car at a Toyota dealership, I''d certainly widen my search. But, I''m not a fan of a search being wide if there is a smarter, more efficient way to get exactly what I want.
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Alj, this would be so much easier to communicate if we were sitting together having coffee! I don''t mean for it to sound like I am arguing whatsoever!
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Honestly, it''s just that when I went to my local jeweler and told him honestly that I was looking online for ideal cut H&A diamonds and wanted to give him the chance to match what I was looking at online, he couldn''t produce a single diamond that was AGS0 and H&A! His suppliers did not have access to ANY! In fact, he couldn''t come up with any GIA excellents in my size range either. What I learned from that experience is that local vendors do not necessarily do the quantity of business that these guys do on the internet, and they may only work with one or two suppliers of diamonds. And when the diamond supply is limited like it is, and we know that the top quality diamonds are in the top 3% or so (I think that was Wink''s estimate), well, making the restriction that she''d only look at AGS certified stones might mean no stones at all. So that''s all I meant. I 100% agree with you that it would be safe and easy to only request AGS0. I was just afraid it would backfire for her to be that restrictive with her jeweler as she might end up with no stones at all.

However, I''m sure we''d both agree that she''d have a much better selection of the finest stones by shopping with vendors such as WF and GOG! So I hope she goes in that direction.
 
Thanks to everyone who is helping me. Thankfully for me, my jeweler is not in until Thursday so I have all of today to gather information and decide which way to go. I definately like the idea of online now (which I was definately not a big fan of before--I just felt like I was spending a ton of money on something that I couldn''t see first which made me nervous). The only thing that bothers me now is this, How do I NOW tell my jeweler (after looking at several of her stones) that I purchased elsewhere? As I said before, I feel that I HAVE to purchase the setting from them because of all of the wonderful and special service that they have shown me. Do you think that they will make it uncomfortable if I say I purchased elsewhere?

Secondly, if they did(which I would hope and do not think that they would) , I suppose I could order elsewhere. Does GOODOLDGOLD and WF sell setting as well? Has anyone ever purchased from them?

Anyone see a AGS0 H&A stone 1.25 - 1.52 (preferably the higher end), please please please let me know!

THANKS AGAIN for all of your help and I hope that there is still more to come!!!
 
Hi ally,

I don''t have any personal experience with telling a jeweler I purchased online. I think some folks have done their research and given the local jewelers an opportunity to find a great stone or come close to matching the online price. I understand wanting to be loyal to your local jeweler. Sometime it''s good to get some pricing, like calling sisters for a quote on the verragio setting you want and see if you''re local shop will come close or match. I don''t think any of the other PS vendors carry Verragio but Goodoldgold, WF and others all carry many settings. Pearlmans is actually my favorite site to look at settings because they carry so many top designers but if it''s the verragio you want I''d try sisters. The stone DS looked at would fit the bill. you can also look at this one from Whiteflash



http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-1911800.htm
 
Date: 8/9/2006 7:28:36 AM
Author: diamondseeker2006
Alj, this would be so much easier to communicate if we were sitting together having coffee! I don't mean for it to sound like I am arguing whatsoever!
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Honestly, it's just that when I went to my local jeweler and told him honestly that I was looking online for ideal cut H&A diamonds and wanted to give him the chance to match what I was looking at online, he couldn't produce a single diamond that was AGS0 and H&A! His suppliers did not have access to ANY! In fact, he couldn't come up with any GIA excellents in my size range either. What I learned from that experience is that local vendors do not necessarily do the quantity of business that these guys do on the internet, and they may only work with one or two suppliers of diamonds. And when the diamond supply is limited like it is, and we know that the top quality diamonds are in the top 3% or so (I think that was Wink's estimate), well, making the restriction that she'd only look at AGS certified stones might mean no stones at all. So that's all I meant. I 100% agree with you that it would be safe and easy to only request AGS0. I was just afraid it would backfire for her to be that restrictive with her jeweler as she might end up with no stones at all.

However, I'm sure we'd both agree that she'd have a much better selection of the finest stones by shopping with vendors such as WF and GOG! So I hope she goes in that direction.
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WOW - are you kidding? That's amazing! They aren't abundantly available through my local guy either (either AGS0 or GIA ex), but he was able to get his hands on a couple of AGS0 stones with no problem. I wonder why your jeweler has such a tough time? Really odd.

Although.....one thing I found with many of the locals here: I sensed a resistance to even look from a few of them. I suspect they thought that if I felt like it was too difficult to find what I had in mind, I'd consider what they had in hand. Of course, they were wrong, silly rabbits
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The funny thing is, I was completely set on buying from a local jeweler....didn't have confidence in buying such a huge item online. But then....after frustrating experiences locally, after learning here, and after seeing such a wide selection online, I did a complete 180. Instead of turning me against the internet, they turned me into a total online shopper.
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Coffee sounds good, though! I'm a HUGE coffee-holic.
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Date: 8/9/2006 9:04:38 AM
Author: allygirl
Thanks to everyone who is helping me. Thankfully for me, my jeweler is not in until Thursday so I have all of today to gather information and decide which way to go. I definately like the idea of online now (which I was definately not a big fan of before--I just felt like I was spending a ton of money on something that I couldn''t see first which made me nervous). The only thing that bothers me now is this, How do I NOW tell my jeweler (after looking at several of her stones) that I purchased elsewhere? As I said before, I feel that I HAVE to purchase the setting from them because of all of the wonderful and special service that they have shown me. Do you think that they will make it uncomfortable if I say I purchased elsewhere?


Secondly, if they did(which I would hope and do not think that they would) , I suppose I could order elsewhere. Does GOODOLDGOLD and WF sell setting as well? Has anyone ever purchased from them?


Anyone see a AGS0 H&A stone 1.25 - 1.52 (preferably the higher end), please please please let me know!


THANKS AGAIN for all of your help and I hope that there is still more to come!!!
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Hi ally!

Yes, GOG and WF both sell settings. I bought my diamond and setting both through GOG. The setting was a D''Vatche. GOG sent the stone to them and they set it, sent it back to GOG and they sent it on to me. Very easy.
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Let me point something out about the size you''re looking at. If you keep it under 1.50, you will save a few thousand dollars, and you will not be able to tell the difference between say, a 1.3ish, 1.4 and 1.5. However, 1.4 is a hard to find size.

That diamond ds posted, the 1.37, would be a beautiful pic. Isee2 cuts fantastic diamonds.

Good luck!
 
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