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Hi everyone,

First off please tell me if I am being unrealistic in any of my assumption. I''m looking to buy a diamond for just under $6000. It will be mounted in the Tacori 2620 setting with pave shoulders. This setting has a bezel of small stones surrounding it. Take a look at this thread to see pics: https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/calling-tacori-lovers-another-post-in-my-never-ending-setting-search.78575/. Obviously the price of the setting is not included in that $6000. I have priced the setting at around $2500 (18k) and $3400 (plat).

Moving onto the diamond. I am definitely set on a round stone.

Carat: I would also like something at the 1.2 carat range. I would definitely go bigger, but I''d rather not go any smaller unless I absolutely have to.

Color & Clarity: I have some flexibility on these two points. What is going to make the most difference in appearance? I don''t want to go any lower than H on the color scale and definitely no lower than SI1 as far as clarity. Other than those guidelines I''m not really sure. How will I get the most bang for my $6k and what will look best in the setting above?

Cut: This is where I am fairly uneducated. I would love ideal, but I don''t want to have unreasonable expectations. My future fiance is a nurse, so should I get a girdle that is slightly thicker to avoid damage? Is there a particular cut that might look better in this setting?

Thanks in advance for any help! I''m looking to buy the diamond in the next week or so (on-line) and then have it set a week or two after that. I have quotes on the setting from Mervis, BB&B and an independent jeweler and Mervis seems like the best bet.

I look forward to all of your opinions!
 
One thing I can say is don''t compromise on the cut quality. With an AGS 0 (Ideal) cut you can get away with a lower colour grade. The fantastic cut will keep it looking nice and icey.

Plus, well, a well cut diamond just looks better...
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Hello! Just a random add on, but I am a nurse and I do not wear my ering at work. The powder in the gloves can cause the stone to come loose, so it may not even be something to worry about
 
Splinter -- After reading a few more threads I agree with you. I am pretty sure I want to go with ideal cut. Can I get H (or better) and SI1 (or better) in an ideal cut at that size for under $6k? Also, how can I narrow my PS search to just ideal cut diamonds?

Anarosa -- That''s a really good point that I hadn''t considered. She probably won''t wear her ring too much at work considering she has to wear gloves all the itme.
 
Date: 4/18/2008 9:06:03 AM
Author: faces11
Splinter -- After reading a few more threads I agree with you. I am pretty sure I want to go with ideal cut. Can I get H (or better) and SI1 (or better) in an ideal cut at that size for under $6k? Also, how can I narrow my PS search to just ideal cut diamonds?
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Just tick the AGS0 box in the search at the top of the page! As far as pricing goes, well, it might be tight squeezing in under the 6K mark, but if anyone can find a bargain, the folks on Pricescope can!
 
How much am I sacrificing by going with an I color stone instead of H if I go with AGS 0?
 
Date: 4/18/2008 9:21:23 AM
Author: faces11
How much am I sacrificing by going with an I color stone instead of H if I go with AGS 0?
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I is where some people begin to see a hint of warmth. Many are fine with I, and even J, in a very well cut stone. Whether or not your girl would, we don''t know. Is she an eagle eye type?

You can get a 1 ct. H SI 1 for 6000.00.
 
Just having a look at that option now. I''ll have to leave the difference between H and I to those who have more experience with stones in that range. I would say that if you get an ideal cut, it makes the stone face up whiter. I don''t think most folks can tell the difference between between H and I without some serious comparison.

Any H and I owners out there that can help?
 
Date: 4/18/2008 9:26:48 AM
Author: Ellen

Date: 4/18/2008 9:21:23 AM
Author: faces11
How much am I sacrificing by going with an I color stone instead of H if I go with AGS 0?
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I is where some people begin to see a hint of warmth. Many are fine with I, and even J, in a very well cut stone. Whether or not your girl would, we don''t know. Is she an eagle eye type?

You can get a 1 ct. H SI 1 for 6000.00.
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I think she''d be more concerned with the slightly larger size of a 1.2 than the color. What do you think better sacrifice?

Go with I instead of H.

or

Go with SI2 instead of SI1.
 
Date: 4/18/2008 9:26:48 AM
Author: Ellen
I is where some people begin to see a hint of warmth. Many are fine with I, and even J, in a very well cut stone. Whether or not your girl would, we don''t know. Is she an eagle eye type?


You can get a 1 ct. H SI 1 for 6000.00.
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Yeah, if H was your limit, then I colour might be a bit past it. However, I still wouldn''t compromise on cut.

A perspective of size might help you. Got to a jeweller and ask to see a .8ct, a 1ct and a 1.2ct together. You might be surprised at how small the difference is. Especially once they''re mounted.

Ellen: You think maybe adding some fluorescence might help if faces11 goes for an I colour? I just wonder, since there''s no real guarantee on the effect.
 
Date: 4/18/2008 9:31:08 AM
Author: faces11
I think she'd be more concerned with the slightly larger size of a 1.2 than the color. What do you think better sacrifice?

Go with I instead of H.

or

Go with SI2 instead of SI1.
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Sorry for the double post folks.

Tough call. If size is more important, then I'd say look for the best eyeclean SI2 you can find. This is where the trusted PS vendors are helpful. No BS about how eyeclean it is just to make a sale. The trusted vendors will give it to you straight.
 
Date: 4/18/2008 9:31:08 AM
Author: faces11



I think she'd be more concerned with the slightly larger size of a 1.2 than the color. What do you think better sacrifice?

Go with I instead of H.

or

Go with SI2 instead of SI1.
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If you can find an eyeclean SI2, H, that would be fine. They exist, but aren't in abundance.

Or, as splinter suggested, if you could find an I with strong blue flo, that would work too. But those are even harder to find.

You could look for both, and if you have no luck, maybe consider starting with the 1 ct. H, but buy from a vendor with a good upgrade policy for down the road, if you don't mind her doing that.
 
The one from WF is not an inhouse stone, they''d have to call it in. With the other choices they have, I don''t think it''s worth it.

The one from Angora has no cert, no pics, couldn''t say. Personally, I would recommend sticking with a company that provides IS pics, when buying online.
 
Thanks for all your help, Ellen.

The one that you attached earlier is unfortunately not eye clean, but they sent me another that is eye clean. What do you think?

http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-636629.htm#

I know that the color is J. Do you think that the color will be apparent in the Tacori setting I linked in my first post? It seems that most of the sides of the stone will be covered up in that setting and AGS0 seem to show up pretty white when looking top down.
 
That''s a gorgeous stone, and in that setting, I don''t see it as being a problem at all. Very pretty!!

Put the stone on hold if you''re still thinking about it!

And you''re very welcome.
 
Here's an H/SI1 1.22 ct. Ideal cut round from GoodOldGold just for comparison's sake. The price is $7208 bank wire.

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/4206/

Here's an I/SI2 1.28 ct. Ideal cut round for $6134 bank wire.

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/3357/

And here's an absolutely awesome looking Eighternity from GOG that is a 1.12 ct. H/SI2 for $6727. Wish I could buy that one!!!

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/2820/

GoodOldGold has some under $6000, but you would have to go down closer to 1.00 ct. But definitely don't skimp on the cut.
 
I know everyone has said don''t skimp on cut, but I have to ask the question anyway. What do you think about going from true H&A to Ideal cut? It would allow me to get a stone of slightly better color and clarity...

I keep second guessing myself, I know, but I''ve never spent this much money on anything before.
 
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