Advice On Two JA 1CT RB Diamonds

[CTKai]

Hi Everyone,

I found two diamonds on JamesAllen.com my budget is kind of low so i am trying my hardest to find a good diamond for around $5000

HCA score: 1.9
http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/loose-...-i-color-si2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-187011




HCA score: 1.3
http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/Round-cut/1.00-carat-I-color-VS2-clarity-sku-185323




Here is what the gemologist have to say:

" I am happy to tell you that the gemologist found the 1.00 carat-I-VS2 (diamond 185323) to have the better light performance of the two. It has very good fire, brilliance and scintillation that is very well balanced throughout the diamond. It faces up a nice white color and is completely eye clean. The 1.01 carat-I-SI2 (diamond 187011) was not recommended because the feathers are very deep in the diamond and large. They are very easily seen and it goes through the crown into the pavilion. It does have good light performance, however, the clouds in the diamond are causing it appear hazy. "

Please let me know what you guys think and also feel free to suggest any diamond in this price range, i like the I-SI2 before the inspection, however i am not so sure now.


Thank you for reading
Kai

 

[diamondloveaffair]

Not a fan of either diamonds.

 

[CTKai]

Can u suggest any thing around the price range?

 

[SMC]

Can u suggest any thing around the price range?

It seems like you've had a lot of these threads. Were the other diamonds that you picked in the other threads not to your satisfaction?

You could consider some of these, they're not 1 ct, but they look almost like 1 ct and you don't have to pay the premium that comes once you get to 1 ct:
http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/round-cut//CaratFrom:0.90|CaratTo:10.00|Cut:TrueHearts|PriceFrom:400|PriceTo:5500|TabSelected:3||DiamondID:204057,204058,197621

 

[04diamond<3]

http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.02-carat-j-color-vs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-184916

http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.01-carat-i-color-si2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-188776

 

[Christina...]

Hi CTkai! I just took a few minutes and looked through some of your past threads. It appears that you've gone back and forth trying to decide how to prioritize your budget. I think you need to really consider what is most important to you....is it a Vatche setting, a true HA stone, size, color? Unfortunately for most of us we need to sacrifice something to achieve what we want. I think you just haven't determined yet exactly what you are willing to sacrifice to get what YOU want. Once you've done this I think making a purchase will be a piece of cake. If its helpful we can help walk you through some of the pros and cons and some of the areas that you can stretch your budget allowing for perhaps less needed sacrifice. For example their are many many gorgeous solitaire settings out there. You don't necessarily have to choose the cheapest because you've decided not to purchase a more pricey one. Is ideal optical symmetry important to you or would you be ok with excellent physical symmetry and light performance? I know you decided not to consider fluorecence in one of your threads but I'm wondering if perhaps you aren't completely sure why you've dismissed it other than perhaps someone somewhere at sometime told you it was a bad thing? Anyway if you are interested there are tons of wonderful and well informed people here that can help walk you through it. This should be a positive happy experience and I sense that you've lost that along the way.

 

[mcosme]

Can u suggest any thing around the price range?

http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.02-carat-i-color-si2-clarity-sku-181268

 

[CTKai]

Hi CTkai! I just took a few minutes and looked through some of your past threads. It appears that you've gone back and forth trying to decide how to prioritize your budget. I think you need to really consider what is most important to you....is it a Vatche setting, a true HA stone, size, color? Unfortunately for most of us we need to sacrifice something to achieve what we want. I think you just haven't determined yet exactly what you are willing to sacrifice to get what YOU want. Once you've done this I think making a purchase will be a piece of cake. If its helpful we can help walk you through some of the pros and cons and some of the areas that you can stretch your budget allowing for perhaps less needed sacrifice. For example their are many many gorgeous solitaire settings out there. You don't necessarily have to choose the cheapest because you've decided not to purchase a more pricey one. Is ideal optical symmetry important to you or would you be ok with excellent physical symmetry and light performance? I know you decided not to consider fluorecence in one of your threads but I'm wondering if perhaps you aren't completely sure why you've dismissed it other than perhaps someone somewhere at sometime told you it was a bad thing? Anyway if you are interested there are tons of wonderful and well informed people here that can help walk you through it. This should be a positive happy experience and I sense that you've lost that along the way.

Hi Christina,

You are totally right about the prioritize part, i am willing to sacrifice color clarity for cut and i think my goal is to find a 1crt plus diamond price below $5500, any help will be welcome

Thank You,
Kai

 

[CTKai]

Can u suggest any thing around the price range?

http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.02-carat-i-color-si2-clarity-sku-181268

Istase2000 - Thank you for helping me out, however the HCA score is 2.7 i am hoping to score below 2.

 

[mcosme]

How about these

http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/loose-diamonds//TabSelected:3||DiamondID:211631,196421

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/10684/
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/10686/
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/10685/
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/10683/

 

[CTKai]

istase200 - thank you for picking out these diamonds and they look good, i will try to call GOG and find out if they are eye clean


Here is the last diamond that i found at JA it's J in color hopefully it wouldn't show too much color cause the gemologist said this diamond to face up with very slight warmth and the sales guy can't promise this diamond to face up white, so please let me know what you guys think, and thank you all very much for your help.

http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/loose-...-j-color-vs1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-158262




"I am happy to tell you that the gemologist found this diamonds to face up with a very, very slight warmth. So only the most color sensitive eye will pick up on the color in the diamond. She also said that this diamond has a very good amount of fire, brilliance and scintillation that is perfectly balanced throughout the diamond. On top of all that, it faces up eye clean."

and this is the answer i got when i asked to compare all 3 diamonds

"If you are looking for the best performing diamond, then the J color diamond would be the winner. That is the one that personally, I would move forward with. That being said, with color being a concern, then I would suggest that you move forward with the I-VS2 (diamond 185323). It is the whitest diamond of the three and the one that I am confident that you will fall in love with."


Best Regards,

 

[SMC]

istase200 - thank you for picking out these diamonds and they look good, i will try to call GOG and find out if they are eye clean


Here is the last diamond that i found at JA it's J in color hopefully it wouldn't show too much color cause the gemologist said this diamond to face up with very slight warmth and the sales guy can't promise this diamond to face up white, so please let me know what you guys think, and thank you all very much for your help.

http://www.jamesallen.com/#!/loose-...-j-color-vs1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-158262




"I am happy to tell you that the gemologist found this diamonds to face up with a very, very slight warmth. So only the most color sensitive eye will pick up on the color in the diamond. She also said that this diamond has a very good amount of fire, brilliance and scintillation that is perfectly balanced throughout the diamond. On top of all that, it faces up eye clean."

and this is the answer i got when i asked to compare all 3 diamonds

"If you are looking for the best performing diamond, then the J color diamond would be the winner. That is the one that personally, I would move forward with. That being said, with color being a concern, then I would suggest that you move forward with the I-VS2 (diamond 185323). It is the whitest diamond of the three and the one that I am confident that you will fall in love with."


Best Regards,

The IS on this stone looks nice and definitely better than your other two. I don't really think you can visually tell the difference between diamonds that are just one color grade apart. Some people claim they can but most people probably can't. You're also setting this diamond in a setting without side stones so there won't be any whiter diamonds to compare it to.

Here's a picture of my 2ct J SI1. I don't think that it's yellow.

 

[CTKai]

Hi everyone i called GOG today and double confirm about those SI-2 diamond being eye clean or not and they turn out to be two of them 99% eye clean and one 100% eye clean


99% eye clean
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/10684/
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/10686/


100% eye clean
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/10560/


Please let me know what you guys think.


Istase2000 - thank you very much for finding those diamonds at GOG

Sortmon - your 2ct J color diamond is beautiful and thank you for showing me how beautiful an J color diamond can be however i think i will go with one of these 3 from GOG cause they provided me with all the information and plus JamesAllen sales guy he's not confident J color diamond i picked out can face up white.

 

[SMC]

Hi everyone i called GOG today and double confirm about those SI-2 diamond being eye clean or not and they turn out to be two of them 99% eye clean and one 100% eye clean


99% eye clean
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/10684/
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/10686/


100% eye clean
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/10560/


Please let me know what you guys think.


Istase2000 - thank you very much for finding those diamonds at GOG

Sortmon - your 2ct J color diamond is beautiful and thank you for showing me the pictures

I like this one the best: http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/10686/
It faces up the biggest (though prob not noticeable) and has faint fluor which MAY help it look whiter.

I am not sure what 99% eye clean means though. Does that mean that 1 out of the 100x you look at the diamond you will see an inclusion? Or that 1 out of 100 ppl will be able to see the inclusion all the time?

Btw, the cut grade on your 100% eye clean option says it's "estimated." I don't know what that means either.

 

[CTKai]

Hi everyone i called GOG today and double confirm about those SI-2 diamond being eye clean or not and they turn out to be two of them 99% eye clean and one 100% eye clean


99% eye clean
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/10684/
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/10686/


100% eye clean
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/10560/


Please let me know what you guys think.


Istase2000 - thank you very much for finding those diamonds at GOG

Sortmon - your 2ct J color diamond is beautiful and thank you for showing me the pictures

I like this one the best: http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/10686/
It faces up the biggest (though prob not noticeable) and has faint fluor which MAY help it look whiter.

I am not sure what 99% eye clean means though. Does that mean that 1 out of the 100x you look at the diamond you will see an inclusion? Or that 1 out of 100 ppl will be able to see the inclusion all the time?

Btw, the cut grade on your 100% eye clean option says it's "estimated." I don't know what that means either.

This what they told me:
10684-this diamond it's 100% eye clean for most of the people and for him to find the inclusion he needs to try very hard to find it and it also has the possibility to cover it by prong however he suggested just go with the 10560 just to be safe, cause it's only $100 more.

10686-this one is 99.99% eye clean and the second cleanest out of 3 and since it's only $20 cheaper than 10560 he suggested just go with the cleanest one.

10560-this one is 100% eye clean also the most expensive one out of all 3 diamonds, however he said all three diamonds are equally beautiful so if i am ok with the small small chance of people seeing the inclusion just go for the cheapest one out of 3

I also asked them about what "estimated" means and he told me it should be on all of their diamonds they just didn't have time to put that on other two diamonds yet, and they told me not to worry about it

i found this link
http://www.goodoldgold.com/content.php?c=123

 

[CTKai]

i called them again and ask them what 99% eye clean means, they told me it means 1 out of 100 people might be able to see the inclusion and it's more of a mental thing, what if me or my girl friend just happen to be that 1 person so if i want to clean that out
of my head just go for the one that's 100% eye clean.

Sortmon - now i can see they number and you are right about diamond 10686 it should face up the biggest and i also asked them about that too, so they put 3 of them side by side and can't tell the difference.

In the end, they told me that i will have a hard time picking one out.

 

[CTKai]

Any input will be much appreciated

 

[SMC]

Any input will be much appreciated

See if GOG will make you a video comparing the diamonds. If not, ask for a picture of the diamonds side by side. If you can tell the difference, pick the cheapest one. I'm 99% sure you won't be able to see the inclusions on any of them.

You can't go wrong with any of your choices! Good luck.

 

[iwasbornforlife]

I was searching for months, and had the best experience with USA Certed Diamonds, I tried JA, and others but rarely got the most honest opinions, had to return a diamond to JA. Martin provided me and with the lowest price, and best of all, their customer service is great!! The fiance loveessss her diamond, as this was the second one we bought through USA Certed. There are many companies out there and they all offer price guarantees and fancy websites but it's up to us consumer to make the right decisions by supporting the good few honest companies in business, and at the same time supporting our dreams of the perfect diamond and still keeping some money in our wallets lol.