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Ideal_Rock
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Symmetry not good. You can see a lot of inclusion reflections. I don’t care for what is essentially here the 60-60 diamond... too spready and not good for returning colored spectral light. Also, I am not a fan of strong blue fl even with a J. I think you can do much better. By chance did you run it through the HCA?
 

PurpleOrange

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Thanks for your advice. HCA is pretty good 1.2 with 3 excellent and 1 very good. I am not sure about strong florescent either.
Symmetry not good. You can see a lot of inclusion reflections. I don’t care for what is essentially here the 60-60 diamond... too spready and not good for returning colored spectral light. Also, I am not a fan of strong blue fl even with a J. I think you can do much better. By chance did you run it through the HCA?
 

tyty333

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Strong blue fluorescence shouldnt be an issue. Have the gemologist review it to make sure it doesnt go oily/milky (which is rare). It would be
nice to see an aset of this stone but BN does not provide asets. Definitely lots of inclusions that may be eye-visible. Ask BN if the stone is eye-clean.
Are you in the US for easy returns? If you order it make sure you review it in lots of different lighting conditions to ensure you are happy with the
performance.

I assume you are trying to push the size/budget limit? You could provide your budget with required specs to see what PSers can find you. Doesnt hurt.

Edit...looked around a little. Here is a K/SI2 that looks pretty clean. Feather at 2:30. You would need
to talk to the gemologist about the feather to make sure it doesnt affect the integrity of the stone and
could it be covered by a prong? The stone has good numbers but it still looks a little leaky (but something
has to give in a $3200 budget at 1 carat).
https://www.b2cjewels.com/diamond-search/dd/12400063/Round-Diamond-K-Color-SI2-Clarity

You could do a super ideal with an excellent trade up policy in your budget around .85. Something
worth considering. Work your way up to 1+ carat.
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4109138.htm
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4109141.htm
 
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PurpleOrange

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Thanks for your advice and recommendation!
Yes I have limited budget and would like to get a 1 carat or close to 1 carat with exellent cut and reasonable other parameters.

Just got an Email from BL: '' The diamond is "eye clean" per the vault manager that inspected it for me. The diamond is not hazy or milky; there is no negative visual impact from the strong fluorescence.
"Eye clean" means that an average layperson viewing the diamond face-up from a distance of six to eight inches would not be able to see any inclusions, but it is not a guarantee that no inclusions would ever be visible no matter how closely you scrutinized the diamond.''

The diamond you recommended is from b2cjewely. Never checked them out before. Will do now. Thanks. I plan to get a white gold setting. So I'd like to keep a J color. Like you said something has to give with limited budget (under $3500) . So that's why I am giving on clarity and florescent. Does it may sense? That said, I am open to advices and changes.

Getting a smaller one from white flash now and upgrade later is an interesting idea. The 2 diamonds look beautiful.

This is what I have and hope for: budget of up to $3500. Excellent cut, J color and SI2 at least. Hopefully eye clean or close to. Ideally 1 carat or close. If someone has good suggestions I'd appreciate it very much!

Strong blue fluorescence shouldnt be an issue. Have the gemologist review it to make sure it doesnt go oily/milky (which is rare). It would be
nice to see an aset of this stone but BN does not provide asets. Definitely lots of inclusions that may be eye-visible. Ask BN if the stone is eye-clean.
Are you in the US for easy returns? If you order it make sure you review it in lots of different lighting conditions to ensure you are happy with the
performance.

I assume you are trying to push the size/budget limit? You could provide your budget with required specs to see what PSers can find you. Doesnt hurt.

Edit...looked around a little. Here is a K/SI2 that looks pretty clean. Feather at 2:30. You would need
to talk to the gemologist about the feather to make sure it doesnt affect the integrity of the stone and
could it be covered by a prong? The stone has good numbers but it still looks a little leaky (but something
has to give in a $3200 budget at 1 carat).
https://www.b2cjewels.com/diamond-search/dd/12400063/Round-Diamond-K-Color-SI2-Clarity

You could do a super ideal with an excellent trade up policy in your budget around .85. Something
worth considering. Work your way up to 1+ carat.
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4109138.htm
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4109141.htm

QUOTE="tyty333, post: 4558023, member: 35700"]Strong blue fluorescence shouldnt be an issue. Have the gemologist review it to make sure it doesnt go oily/milky (which is rare). It would be
nice to see an aset of this stone but BN does not provide asets. Definitely lots of inclusions that may be eye-visible. Ask BN if the stone is eye-clean.
Are you in the US for easy returns? If you order it make sure you review it in lots of different lighting conditions to ensure you are happy with the
performance.

I assume you are trying to push the size/budget limit? You could provide your budget with required specs to see what PSers can find you. Doesnt hurt.

Edit...looked around a little. Here is a K/SI2 that looks pretty clean. Feather at 2:30. You would need
to talk to the gemologist about the feather to make sure it doesnt affect the integrity of the stone and
could it be covered by a prong? The stone has good numbers but it still looks a little leaky (but something
has to give in a $3200 budget at 1 carat).
https://www.b2cjewels.com/diamond-search/dd/12400063/Round-Diamond-K-Color-SI2-Clarity

You could do a super ideal with an excellent trade up policy in your budget around .85. Something
worth considering. Work your way up to 1+ carat.
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4109138.htm
https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4109141.htm[/QUOTE]
 
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Thanks for your advice. HCA is pretty good 1.2 with 3 excellent and 1 very good. I am not sure about strong florescent either.
was the very good for spread? If so, getting 3 ex in the performance categories is key. And if the spread is very good it is icing on the cake. My stone has ex for the 1st three elements (the performance-related ones) and it sure has proven to me that the HCA works.
 

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Good. that's a good sign, but my concern is whether it's eye clean IRL. If it is, then that's great--but if not then you might have to return it, which is kind of a hassle.
You are right... Will BN give an honest eval to the prospective buyer? From the one magnified view, it does not appear that it is, and I feel like I'm seeing a lot of inclusion reflections. Would be nice to know what one sees when they are looking at it life-size. You may not see all that in true scale and if it performs as it seems to be capable, that will all get "masked" anyhow. It says there is a natural but I cannot see it on the plot. It's a bummer that most of the inclusions are on the table. Would be great if PurpleOrange could get a video.
 
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