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dreambrother

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Hello everyone. First off thanks to everyone giving advice on these forums (usually see Lorelei in almost every post). This site has been really helpful in helping me search for an E-Ring and just understanding the different aspects of diamonds and how to choose one.

My preferences are:

Carat: 1.0-1.2
Color: D-G
Cut: Round, Ideal/Excellent, H&A (or close to it if the diamond has that sparkle
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Clarity: It's tough, but I realize if it's eye clean diamonds down to SI1 are still excellent.
Budget: 10k max.

Been looking around at GOG, High Performance, Whiteflash, etc. I can't seem to find the right one, or maybe I'm being too picky, I don't know. For instance I could go down to SI1 clarity and it would be perfectly fine, but I think psychologicaly it would make me feel uneasy. Or I could be making something out of nothing. I keep reading that an SI1 is still excellent if its eye clean. Same go's for color I suppose, with all the sparkle you couldn't tell a well cut H to say a D.

The setting is another beast. I didn't really care when I started, but after seeing some very nice settings I've begun to sing a different tune. I think I'm leaning towards the Tiffany setting, but right now the diamond is the biggest road block. Anyways, thanks for any help, much appreciated.
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Date: 6/25/2009 4:43:41 PM
Author:dreambrother
Been looking around at GOG, High Performance, Whiteflash, etc. I can't seem to find the right one, or maybe I'm being too picky, I don't know. For instance I could go down to SI1 clarity and it would be perfectly fine, but I think psychologicaly it would make me feel uneasy. Or I could be making something out of nothing. I keep reading that an SI1 is still excellent if its eye clean. Same go's for color I suppose, with all the sparkle you couldn't tell a well cut H to say a D.
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Hello DB,

If you believe that "psychologically" it will make you feel uneasy to select an SI-1 clarity diamond, then it is probably better to purchase a diamond of a higher clarity, at least a VS-2. In my experience, our internal mental chatter is a reflection of our true preferences or feelings and it is best to follow such "advice" rather than try to live with second guessing ourselves - I hope you realize that this is a reflection of my own internal dialogue which is kind of, uh, "particular" when it comes to selecting things for myself and others. I've been having a great email conversation laughing with one of our clients as we share our most intimate OCD tendencies with regards to shopping for simple things like fans - did you know that it can take an hour to consider the pros and cons of the fans offered by Home Depot? I did... I'm told that some women have the same challenge with shoes
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It is true that an eye clean SI-1 is a wonderful thing, but only if you aren't going to second guess the clarity and whether it truly is eye clean 100% of the time. We play the "is it eye clean" game around the office and sometimes three people will say "yes, it's eye clean" and then one person will say "nope, the inclusion is right there" and blow the concept of "eye clean" right out of the water! You see, the definition of "eye clean" is dependent on the vision of the person evaluating the diamond.
 
Date: 6/25/2009 4:43:41 PM
Author:dreambrother
Hello everyone. First off thanks to everyone giving advice on these forums (usually see Lorelei in almost every post). This site has been really helpful in helping me search for an E-Ring and just understanding the different aspects of diamonds and how to choose one.

My preferences are:

Carat: 1.0-1.2
Color: D-G
Cut: Round, Ideal/Excellent, H&A (or close to it if the diamond has that sparkle
2.gif
)
Clarity: It's tough, but I realize if it's eye clean diamonds down to SI1 are still excellent.
Budget: 10k max.

Been looking around at GOG, High Performance, Whiteflash, etc. I can't seem to find the right one, or maybe I'm being too picky, I don't know. For instance I could go down to SI1 clarity and it would be perfectly fine, but I think psychologicaly it would make me feel uneasy. Or I could be making something out of nothing. I keep reading that an SI1 is still excellent if its eye clean. Same go's for color I suppose, with all the sparkle you couldn't tell a well cut H to say a D.

The setting is another beast. I didn't really care when I started, but after seeing some very nice settings I've begun to sing a different tune. I think I'm leaning towards the Tiffany setting, but right now the diamond is the biggest road block. Anyways, thanks for any help, much appreciated.
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LOL! Here I am!

Definitely agree with Todd, if you don't feel altogether comfortable with SI clarity then go for VS2 or better, this is absolutely fine if that is what you prefer. We have a few posters feel the same, one in particular much prefers VS and is extremely happy with her choice, so if VS and above is ' mindclean' for you then thats the way to go. Don't try to convince yourself otherwise as this is an important purchase, best to get it right the first time rather than regret not going for higher clarity when you had the chance.

Here are some selections based on VS or better clarity and D - G colour, if you are agreeable we could add in H colour if needed to broaden the options if we can't find what you want within the specs above?

http://www.whiteflash.com/round/Round-cut-diamond-2080664.htm

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/6056/

http://www.whiteflash.com/round_ideal_cut/Round-Ideal-Cut-cut-diamond-55002.htm

This one might be a bit more than you want to spend but I thought I would add it anyway

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/I223515/ You would need to ask Jon for the images as it is a new item

And this one I included H colour just to bump the size up a bit as an example, same with the images, new item

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/I288902/
 
With that budget and specs, you should have a variety of choices while staying in VS clarities.

If you want to max out the budget, something like this:

http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/Whiteflash-ACA-cut-diamond-2133656.htm#

Or if you want a beautiful stone while saving a little, here are a couple of choices:

http://www.highperformancediamonds.com/index.php?page=view-id-diamond-infinity&id=560

http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/Whiteflash-ACA-cut-diamond-1848210.htm#


You could also contact Lesley at www.briangavindiamonds.com and she would be happy to help you. Their database is not online yet, but she is joy to work with.
 
Date: 6/25/2009 4:58:56 PM
Author: Lorelei
Date: 6/25/2009 4:43:41 PM

Author:dreambrother

Hello everyone. First off thanks to everyone giving advice on these forums (usually see Lorelei in almost every post). This site has been really helpful in helping me search for an E-Ring and just understanding the different aspects of diamonds and how to choose one.


My preferences are:


Carat: 1.0-1.2

Color: D-G

Cut: Round, Ideal/Excellent, H&A (or close to it if the diamond has that sparkle
2.gif
)

Clarity: It's tough, but I realize if it's eye clean diamonds down to SI1 are still excellent.

Budget: 10k max.


Been looking around at GOG, High Performance, Whiteflash, etc. I can't seem to find the right one, or maybe I'm being too picky, I don't know. For instance I could go down to SI1 clarity and it would be perfectly fine, but I think psychologicaly it would make me feel uneasy. Or I could be making something out of nothing. I keep reading that an SI1 is still excellent if its eye clean. Same go's for color I suppose, with all the sparkle you couldn't tell a well cut H to say a D.


The setting is another beast. I didn't really care when I started, but after seeing some very nice settings I've begun to sing a different tune. I think I'm leaning towards the Tiffany setting, but right now the diamond is the biggest road block. Anyways, thanks for any help, much appreciated.
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LOL! Here I am!


Definitely agree with Todd, if you don't feel altogether comfortable with SI clarity then go for VS2 or better, this is absolutely fine if that is what you prefer. We have a few posters feel the same, one in particular much prefers VS and is extremely happy with her choice, so if VS and above is ' mindclean' for you then thats the way to go. Don't try to convince yourself otherwise as this is an important purchase, best to get it right the first time rather than regret not going for higher clarity when you had the chance.


Here are some selections based on VS or better clarity and D - G colour, if you are agreeable we could add in H colour if needed to broaden the options if we can't find what you want within the specs above?


http://www.whiteflash.com/round/Round-cut-diamond-2080664.htm


http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/6056/
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Sweet, my post is now official!!!
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Yeah even when it comes to even a VS quality I still want an F/IF one, but I know that's almost impossible and will be way out of my price range. I think I'll maybe pick my top 5 choices and see what everyone thinks. Feel free to post any recommendations.

On a side note I'm really starting to dig the Solasfera cuts. I love the videos posted by Jonathan at GOG. Thanks again all.
 
Date: 6/25/2009 5:08:08 PM
Author: dreambrother

Date: 6/25/2009 4:58:56 PM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 6/25/2009 4:43:41 PM

Author:dreambrother

Hello everyone. First off thanks to everyone giving advice on these forums (usually see Lorelei in almost every post). This site has been really helpful in helping me search for an E-Ring and just understanding the different aspects of diamonds and how to choose one.


My preferences are:


Carat: 1.0-1.2

Color: D-G

Cut: Round, Ideal/Excellent, H&A (or close to it if the diamond has that sparkle
2.gif
)

Clarity: It''s tough, but I realize if it''s eye clean diamonds down to SI1 are still excellent.

Budget: 10k max.


Been looking around at GOG, High Performance, Whiteflash, etc. I can''t seem to find the right one, or maybe I''m being too picky, I don''t know. For instance I could go down to SI1 clarity and it would be perfectly fine, but I think psychologicaly it would make me feel uneasy. Or I could be making something out of nothing. I keep reading that an SI1 is still excellent if its eye clean. Same go''s for color I suppose, with all the sparkle you couldn''t tell a well cut H to say a D.


The setting is another beast. I didn''t really care when I started, but after seeing some very nice settings I''ve begun to sing a different tune. I think I''m leaning towards the Tiffany setting, but right now the diamond is the biggest road block. Anyways, thanks for any help, much appreciated.
1.gif
Click to expand...

LOL! Here I am!


Definitely agree with Todd, if you don''t feel altogether comfortable with SI clarity then go for VS2 or better, this is absolutely fine if that is what you prefer. We have a few posters feel the same, one in particular much prefers VS and is extremely happy with her choice, so if VS and above is '' mindclean'' for you then thats the way to go. Don''t try to convince yourself otherwise as this is an important purchase, best to get it right the first time rather than regret not going for higher clarity when you had the chance.


Here are some selections based on VS or better clarity and D - G colour, if you are agreeable we could add in H colour if needed to broaden the options if we can''t find what you want within the specs above?


http://www.whiteflash.com/round/Round-cut-diamond-2080664.htm


http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/6056/
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Sweet, my post is now official!!!
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Yeah even when it comes to even a VS quality I still want an F/IF one, but I know that''s almost impossible and will be way out of my price range. I think I''ll maybe pick my top 5 choices and see what everyone thinks. Feel free to post any recommendations.

On a side note I''m really starting to dig the Solasfera cuts. I love the videos posted by Jonathan at GOG. Thanks again all.
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Hehehe!!! I added a few more options for you and the helpful Jetskis has posted some of his selections so see what you think!

Definitely post your top 5 then we can take a look.
 
Ugh. One thing I've been noticing in all my searches is that they all look good! Sometimes I think it just comes down to bragging rights, hah. "We have the same size, but I have a higher color!!" Of the ones listed, these are my preferences:

1. http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/Whiteflash-ACA-cut-diamond-2133656.htm ( hah figures, its the most expensive).

2. http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/Whiteflash-ACA-cut-diamond-1848210.htm#

3. http://www.highperformancediamonds.com/index.php?page=view-id-diamond-infinity&id=560

4. http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/6056/


I didn't choose the other WF since it wasn't ACA and the other GOG ones since they didn't have an image. I'll have to mail Jonathan about those. One thing I really like about GOG is the GEMEX cert.

* Whoops, changed the #1 spot for the duplicate.
 
You''re not going to go wrong with any of these stones or vendors.

(BTW, #1 & #2 are the same stone)
 
Make to link.

Date: 6/25/2009 5:47:54 PM
Author: dreambrother
Ugh. One thing I've been noticing in all my searches is that they all look good! Sometimes I think it just comes down to bragging rights, hah. 'We have the same size, but I have a higher color!!' Of the ones listed, these are my preferences:

1. http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/Whiteflash-ACA-cut-diamond-2133656.htm ( hah figures, its the most expensive).

2. http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/Whiteflash-ACA-cut-diamond-1848210.htm#

3. http://www.highperformancediamonds.com/index.php?page=view-id-diamond-infinity&id=560

4. http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/6056/

I didn't choose the other WF since it wasn't ACA and the other GOG ones since they didn't have an image. I'll have to mail Jonathan about those. One thing I really like about GOG is the GEMEX cert.


* Whoops, changed the #1 spot for the duplicate.
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yap, all good choices, depends who you are comfortable working with, who's setting you like better and of course which stone you like best.
 
Thanks Stone-Cold
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In the process of linking my own, though I stumbled onto the #1 stone during a recent search and I just realized it was the one posted here.
 
Date: 6/25/2009 5:47:54 PM
Author: dreambrother
Ugh. One thing I've been noticing in all my searches is that they all look good! Sometimes I think it just comes down to bragging rights, hah. 'We have the same size, but I have a higher color!!' Of the ones listed, these are my preferences:

1. http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/Whiteflash-ACA-cut-diamond-2133656.htm ( hah figures, its the most expensive).

2. http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/Whiteflash-ACA-cut-diamond-1848210.htm#

3. http://www.highperformancediamonds.com/index.php?page=view-id-diamond-infinity&id=560

4. http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/6056/


I didn't choose the other WF since it wasn't ACA and the other GOG ones since they didn't have an image. I'll have to mail Jonathan about those. One thing I really like about GOG is the GEMEX cert.

* Whoops, changed the #1 spot for the duplicate.
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These all look great brother, depends on which you prefer!
 
I''m curious whether or not 1CT would be good enough for her finger (5.125) I could probably save a few bucks and spend that on the setting. Though I really like my #1 pick so far, I''m trying to see if I could find a nice Solasfera. I''ve been searching over at GOG, the Solasfera''s seem to be all floating around the 1CT mark, at least the ones I like. Isn''t there a 5% discount from GOG/HPD/WF for Pricescope members?
 
Date: 6/26/2009 11:30:26 AM
Author: dreambrother
I'm curious whether or not 1CT would be good enough for her finger (5.125) I could probably save a few bucks and spend that on the setting. Though I really like my #1 pick so far, I'm trying to see if I could find a nice Solasfera. I've been searching over at GOG, the Solasfera's seem to be all floating around the 1CT mark, at least the ones I like. Isn't there a 5% discount from GOG/HPD/WF for Pricescope members?
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There is a discount often you need to pay with a bank wire to get it, ask the vendor you choose as to the specifics in your case. What you could do is view some Solasfera in person if there is a dealer closeby?

A carat would look fine on her finger, a very nice size, substantial but not too huge. What do you think she would prefer, a Solasfera or h&a of what we call near Tolkowsky proportions? Also finger size is relative, the hand size can make a difference too as to the perceived size of the diamond and how much ' real estate' it covers. For example someone with smaller hands with thicker fingers of that size can make the diamond look different to another size 5 with larger hands and more slender fingers.
 
Argh. You snooze you lose. I took a bit to think over choice #1, now it sold!! It seems that was a pretty good price. I can''t seem to find another like it with comparable price/spec. The search continues!
 
Date: 6/29/2009 1:07:40 PM
Author: dreambrother
Argh. You snooze you lose. I took a bit to think over choice #1, now it sold!! It seems that was a pretty good price. I can''t seem to find another like it with comparable price/spec. The search continues!
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I''m sorry brother....The right one will pop up!
 
Sorry to hear that, it was a beautiful stone. Since you are already familiar with WF, GOG & HPD, I assume you are searching those websites. In addition, I would recommend contacting Brian Gavin Diamonds to see what they have. Their database is not up yet, but you can contact them through www.brianthecutter.com

Brian is the original developer of the ACA diamonds and his own Signature H&A stones are gorgeous. They may have something in your price and spec range and are able to supply photos, ASET, IS & hearts images.
 
ya, that happens.
 
Thank you, I''ll try BGD out. I''ve also been searching James Allen as well.
 
Just finished talking to Leslie at Brian Gavin Diamonds. You were right, she was very friendly and informative. Story of my life, I was late (by about 3 days, go figure) on a recent shipment that sold out quickly with diamonds like the one at Whiteflash. I''m getting info on a 1.09 G VS2 that is considerably cheaper. I think it would be a good idea to actually compare different carats on my GF''s finger. Something tells me a diamond closer to 1C would be just right.
 
Looks good, ditto above for the Hearts image. JA do not supply ASET image.
 
Just got a reply from JA. They don''t have any Hearts images yet, but they will have them on all their H&A diamonds by months end.
 
Date: 7/2/2009 2:25:49 PM
Author: dreambrother
Just got a reply from JA. They don''t have any Hearts images yet, but they will have them on all their H&A diamonds by months end.
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Oh right....We were told it would be this week but I suppose things got held up a bit, still great they are working on it though.
 
Weird, thought request will be accepted by this week, all the H&A stones will have accompanying heart image in a mth's time. Probably some more bugs in the system that need to be fix.
 
Date: 7/2/2009 2:28:58 PM
Author: Stone-cold11
Weird, thought request will be accepted by this week, all the H&A stones will have accompanying heart image in a mth''s time. Probably some more bugs in the system that need to be fix.
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Maybe they will supply hearts images as standard on each h&a diamond rather than the buyer having to request them, and this is what is taking extra time.
 
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