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Advice on an Emerald cut stone

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  1. Zedeff
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    by Zedeff » Jul 31, 2009
    I have a very trusted jeweler who I like to shop with who has been selling to my family for 4 generations. I am looking for an engagement ring and I initially approached the purchase with the following criteria in mind:

    $10k budget
    Likely a solitaire in white gold or platinum
    I PREFER to do something unique and "off the beaten path" because I''m a rather eclectic person by nature; that is, if I could avoid a Round Brilliant or Princess cut and find something equally nice or nicer, I would (I am particularly fond of Asscher and Emerald cuts)

    So my jeweler pulled out some loose stones and I happened to see one that, of course, was a touch outside my price range.

    2.56 ct very good Emerald cut
    VS1 clarity
    L colour
    around $11k (converted to US funds from Canadian dollars)

    My questions with this stone basically surround the colour. At an L, the stone certainly doesn''t pass as white, but it also isn''t blatantly yellow. Would it be fair to suggest that these stones have a very limited market because from both perspectives (white or coloured) the stone is "flawed"? Is the price range reasonable for a stone of those stats?

    I see VERY few emerald cut diamonds - never seen one in person as an engagement ring, only seen them online. Am I completely out of my mind to want an Emerald stone for an engagement ring? Am I better off just going with whatever is common and popular?
     
    


    


  2. Big daddy 48
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    by Big daddy 48 » Jul 31, 2009
    First off a trusted jeweler is hard to find so you have one thing going for you!!! I just purchased an emerald cut for my future wife and was in the same boat as you. It''s hard to find the perfect emerald cut. I finally did[​IMG] I looked at VS1-SI1''s with J-K color till I found the perfect stone. I found a 2.30CT VVS-2 H in Color. I personally wouldn''t go for the L color. I would shop around till you find the right color. I wouldn''t go above an I on an emerald cut as it''s quite noticeable. I have to be honest it was not an easy find. From Harry Winston-Tiffany-Cartier-Debeers,etc. I wound using google as a search tool for other diamonds and found a place called Liori Diamonds. I feel they were fair to me. I paid $14,500.00.
     
  3. Gypsy
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    by Gypsy » Jul 31, 2009
    Warmer colored stones have a beauty all their own.

    And you have to buy fancy shape diamonds with your eyes.

    But the numbers are good to know as well. Can you give us some more information about the diamond?

    Is it certified, and if so by what lab? What are the table and depth measurements? How large is the stone (length and width) what is the description of the girdle on the certificate (assuming it has one) and if your jeweler can get the information for you... what is the crown height on the stone.

    Meanwhile I'm going for a few stones in your price range just so you can see what else is out there.
     
  4. jet2ks
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  5. Gypsy
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    by Gypsy » Jul 31, 2009
    When shopping for fancies... it's better to compare the size of the diamond (in mm) instead of it's weight.

    Here are a couple of nice looking emerald cuts (there are pics on the site) I found. From the look of it, the price for your L might be pretty fair.

    http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/I-VS1-Ideal-Cut-Emerald-Diamond-1135178.asp

    http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/H-VS1-Ideal-Cut-Emerald-Diamond-1203745.asp

    http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/J-VS1-Premium-Cut-Emerald-Diamond-1171220.asp

    Incidentally, my personally opinion on warmer colored stones is that they look amazing in unplated white gold settings.


    Emerald cuts are stunning and elegant. If you are the wearer, ANY ring you want is perfect. It could be a ruby, a sapphire, a trillion or a any cut you like.

    If you are shopping for someone else. Make sure that your SO is on the same page, both on the color and the shape.


    Here is a thread with a lot of Pricescope asschers and emerald cuts in it: https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/emerald-cuts-asschers-a-collection.113993/
     
  6. Lorelei
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    by Lorelei » Aug 1, 2009
    Great advice Jet and Gypsy!!![​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
     
  7. Gypsy
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    by Gypsy » Aug 1, 2009
    Thank you Lorelei. [​IMG]
     
  8. marcy
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    by marcy » Aug 1, 2009
    I prefer a whiter EC but it is personal preference. I think EC are difficult to pick from pictures and numbers so hopefully you can find more EC diamonds to look at in person. Good luck an dhave fun.
     
  9. bgray
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    by bgray » Aug 1, 2009
    a beautifully cut step cut can take a JK color range. personally a vs1 L color is too big a spread in parameters. I would start searching online for a stone with optimal cut qualities and pick out anything that falls between vs2 and K............thats where you will find a good value.
     
  10. DiamanteBlu
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    by DiamanteBlu » Aug 6, 2009
    I have [what I believe to be] a spectacular EC. It is 6.39 carats and an L color. Here it is next to my mother's H [or maybe it's a G - don't remember] color EC.

    A well cut stone can be gorgeous in lower colors. [And they look great with a tan. [​IMG]]

    two ECs 1.jpg
     
    


    


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  12. ericad
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    by ericad » Aug 6, 2009
    Color is a personal choice. I wear an L colored square emerald/asscher and think it's the most beautiful diamond I've ever seen. Many others would prefer step cuts in higher colors - it just depends. An L is an L and will look like an L - it will never look like a colorless stone therefore you must love it for what it is and be ready to flaunt that L!

    If the stone is beautiful to you, run some price comps and determine if the price is fair. You are the one who will wear it and look at it 100 times a day, so get something you love and what is visually beautiful to you!
     
  13. ericad
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    by ericad » Aug 6, 2009
    DiamanteBlu, I would take that L over that G any day of the week. SLURP.
     
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