Thank you @Calliecake You’re always too kind. I appreciate your nice and non judgmental comments.@Queenie60, I‘ve read your posts and I’m stunned you were given a time out.
I will never understand running to Ella because of something said on an online forum. if you don’t agree with something state your opinion if you want to participate or move on. I have a feeling that many of those who ran to Ella didn’t participate much in political threads, which is find sad. I miss reading everyone’s opinions on politics. It’s pretty dead here on PS now. Seems to me the more participation and eyes on a site the better for its vendors.
Folks, we’re trying to allow you to have open discussions that are within the policies, but please do not break the policies. That includes directing people to other forums and bashing forum admin and decisions. If you have questions about a specific action, please feel free to reach out privately.
Prior to the election there were many time outs given, because people were blatantly breaking policies left and right. Normally we give a warning and explanation, sometimes multiple times before a time out is given, but during that time I was working double the hours I usually do just to moderate those political conversations and it just wasn’t possible.
Please understand that members were not acting like adults, and it was miserable to be on the receiving end of tantrums and name calling on a daily basis. PS members were regularly sending me abusive messages. If folks could have had civil discussions, like adults, we would not be here.
Hangout was specifically created for non jewelry topics including politics when it was allowed. From the top of the first page of Hangout:I think saying "just ignore" is disingenuous. This place was 80% political threads along with all the arguing that that entails. "Just ignore" basically meant not coming on here, since the home page was crawling with political threads. It was horrible, and I was so relieved when it was all banned.
"That includes directing people to other forums" I wasn't sure about that (and I wasn't coming on to do that - I was just replying to the questions), but all I could find in reference to other websites in the rules was regarding other jewelry forums, or at least that's the way it reads to me -
- Do not post links or references to any other jewelry information or affiliate websites, forums, videos, blogs, or podcasts.
If you think the "ignore" button is disingenuous, take it up with admin.
You could ignore the threads the way you might ignore a flood of lava which is maybe not coming right at you, but is within two feet of you. You would get drawn in because you'd click on a thread when it sounded like an interesting topic to learn about, but then the arguing would begin, and then the nastiness.
...I’m appalled that Admin were inundated with abuse from the forceful few who thought their opinions were the only valid ones. It’s no surprise hearing that, that the decision was made to ban the topic.
I think saying "just ignore" is disingenuous. This place was 80% political threads along with all the arguing that that entails. "Just ignore" basically meant not coming on here, since the home page was crawling with political threads.
As the old saying goes, "That's why we can't have nice things."
I’m appalled that Admin were inundated with abuse from the forceful few who thought their opinions were the only valid ones. It’s no surprise hearing that, that the decision was made to ban the topic.
I have not looked at it, but I will. Its so nice to see you all again. Demon, who was the vender who complained? You are not talking about karl are you?
Marianne--I do realize that reddit is different than Pricescope. My point was to show that Reddit allows their members the freedom to form actions on their platform without interference from Admin. They do require that members show proof when they say they bought a stock and made or lost X amount of dollars. They have been severely criticized, but do not then ask their members to change.
On Pricescope members are asked to provide content, teach others, over and over again without pay or recognition (except for Vegas), and purchase diamonds and jewelry from sponsors who pay for advertising. And when a members clicks on an advert for, say a dress, it turns up in their feed for days. Who gets paid for transmitting that advert? Members here are expected to do a lot. Is it too much to expect that Admin not complain about how hard the monitoring of the site is when they choose to monitor, particularly the political threads.
I think there is an imbalance here. People are tired of doing the work and getting little in return.
I have enjoyed pricesope for many years. I am not a prolific poster, but I also enjoy reading others posts. Once people find other homes it is less likely they will return.
Thanks for listening.
I recall that PS policy.
I seemed okay to ask for the name of the politics forum precisely because it had nothing to do with jewelry, and wouldn't giving it out on PS reduce political discussions here?
I'm sure the Internet has lots of political forums, but endorsements from multiple PSers means this one must be pretty good.
I've wondered how the changes in younger gens tastes will affect PS. I've read younger gens aren't as interested in bling and that those who are tend to lean toward man-made stones, smaller stones, and more unique styles. Seems that would have some sort of impact here as the older gens who want more-bigger-better fade into history.Perhaps a new thread on suggestion for increasing traffic
Please speak for yourself @Jambalaya.
When I wrote that as adults we can ignore what is inflammatory (to us) that is exactly what I meant. No disingenuity at all. Said with complete sincerity.
And I did just that. I ignored posters who were baiting others by being over the top. I ignored posters (just a few) who took pleasure in aggravating others. Just for(IMO) the sake of annoying and getting a rise out of people.
With all due respect it is called being an adult. To be able to scroll on by anything that you cannot handle or do not wish to respond to.
I am sorry you feel ignoring certain posters/inflammatory comments (for the sake of being inflammatory and not an open discussion with give and take and respect) is "disingenuous".
Please take this in the spirit in which I intended it...not to upset you at all but just to say I am being completely sincere when I write to just ignore posters/posts you find upsetting or inflammatory.
Because some people were acting like children and behaving very badly, being abusive, and causing lots of extra work and stress for Ella- which are all unacceptable- our political discussion was banned.
It was a few who destroyed it for the rest of us.
I am appalled too. Unacceptable.