A little bothered with this WF setting

[arjunajane]

Date: 6/4/2009 1:19:43 PM
Author: about2begin

Date: 6/4/2009 1:05:43 PM

Author: prettycat

arjunajane, what''s your point? What''s are you trying to say???


If you are really so curious and suspicious, you could go ahead to call WF and ask if someone has just returned this ring.


I didn''t post any handshots just because I don''t have a camera good enough to show the details of ring.


Also, don''t be misleading by quoting my words out of context.

Don''t get too worked up over this. arjuna has a habit of jumping on people who post neutral/negative comments about the vendor''s on here. In a past thread she basically said I was making up the fact that I bought a stone for ~$5k less than a similar one was listed for on GOG. Why would I make that up? Why would you make this up? Why does she care? Answers: I wouldn''t, you probably didn''t, who knows


It''s kind of bizarre to me, really.


Try Leon Mege if you like precision work -- the ring he made me is amazing, I didn''t loop it, though, so I am not sure if there are microscopic flaws.

Seriously A2BGN,
please do get over yourself?! Whatever you have referenced above I have no idea what you are talking about,
you and I had a discussion about GOG''s policies if you recall - you must have me mixed up with someone else.
I take serious offence to the blanket allegation that I "jump on people who post negative/neutral responses". You are basing this comment off of a sense of revenge for one single thread where you and I disagreed on an issue; plus this thread where my opinion is in consensus with every other poster. How exactly is that "jumping on everyone"?..any other examples of my terrible behaviour you''d care to share?
You have no idea of my contribution or posting history here, so pls keep your allegations to yourself - and don''t follow me around looking to re-start an old discussion, its annoying.




pettycat, I thought I was pretty clear. But no, I do not care enough to consider calling WF, cheers.
With regards to quoting you out on context - I was just commenting on a pretty clear pattern from your previous posts - based on those, I would Not recommend Leon Mege for you as his work is 100% handmade.

Basically, I don''t understand the purpose of your thread, as you seemed to have your mind made up before you posted, and didn''t listen to any of the advice from those who offered it. You had the ring remade and sent back again, for reasons you don''t care to share.
Therefore, lie my "suspicions" - hey, maybe it''s just 1am here and I''m bored

G''nite!

 

[about2begin]

AJ,

Here's what I'm talking about:

https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/is-the-diamond-price-premium-for-certain-online-retailers-worth-it.111443/

Your statement (after quoting the first line pasted below):

5K difference ? something don't sound right what did you end up buying? specs?

"I agree, I don't see this how this figure can be correct, and would like to know what two diamonds you are comparing. GOG does not have that much of a markup over other internet vendors."



You get all worked up whenever people aren't praising vendors. It's annoying. I don't have tons of examples, but 2 is plenty (make it 3 now in this thread). I only read your posts in the threads that I write in or start -- you're almost batting .1000. What you're doing is not constructive; it adds nothing.

Leon's work is handmade -- it's amazing. I would recommend him to anyone.

 

[atroop711]

Date: 6/4/2009 12:36:22 PM
Author: arjunajane
both photos PC posted together, for ease of viewing...centre diamond looks bigger in second ring, or is that just me?

sure the 2nd stone looks larger...the pic is zoomed in closer on the 2nd..not the same distance from the first ring pic..so it will look larger. ZOOM can do wonders

 

[atroop711]

Date: 5/7/2009 4:57:34 PM
Author: prettycat
Thanks for all the comments and suggestions! I looked at the ring again. To be specific, one side of the ring looks OK, but the other side is worse. One melee stone is off center, and the tiny prongs are not in their right postions. I have poor eyesight so it''s hard for me to catch these with eyes, but my husband can see when looking closely. He doesn''t care a bit though.

If it''s just normal for a hand-made ring, as many people here said, then I would rather get a plain setting without those melee stones.

when ANYTHING is done by hand it won''t be perfect...that''s the beauty of something hand made. It''s not cookie cutter like a machine makes. I''ve had 2 pieces made by WF (one of them hand made) and the handmade piece isn''t perfect (to the naked eye it is) but that''s the beauty of having a handmade one of a kind ring. GL with finding your perfect ring. I''m sure you will be happy real soon

 

[Steel]

OP, what is the issue at hand? Did you make WF aware of your concerns about the remake?

(About2begin: I think you are bordering on making a personal attack to AJ, I imagine this is not your intention?)

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Date: 6/4/2009 1:19:43 PM
Author: about2begin


Try Leon Mege if you like precision work -- the ring he made me is amazing, I didn''t loop it, though, so I am not sure if there are microscopic flaws.

Noooo! If someone requires loupe perfection, you don''t want to go with LeonMege handmade rings! I love my ring, but you can''t look at a handmade ring with a loupe!

 

[about2begin]

Date: 6/4/2009 5:04:35 PM
Author: Steel
OP, what is the issue at hand? Did you make WF aware of your concerns about the remake?


(About2begin: I think you are bordering on making a personal attack to AJ, I imagine this is not your intention?)

Correct, not my intention at all. This was just another example of her getting on someone''s case by accusing them of misstating facts or trying to be deceitful. It''s just not helpful to people who read these threads, IMO. That''s all I was trying to say.

If you want loope perfection, can you ever really get a piece with melee? Just a general question -- don''t mean to threadjack

 

[diamondseeker2006]

I think you can get greater perfection with cast or die struck pieces. I''ve seen a Ritani ring under the jeweler''s microscope and it looked pretty perfect. But it''s cast and not handmade. personally, I''d prefer handmade. But I think the poster of this thread might be better suited to cast or die struck.

 

[risingsun]

Date: 6/4/2009 6:01:16 PM
Author: about2begin

Date: 6/4/2009 5:04:35 PM
Author: Steel
OP, what is the issue at hand? Did you make WF aware of your concerns about the remake?


(About2begin: I think you are bordering on making a personal attack to AJ, I imagine this is not your intention?)

Correct, not my intention at all. This was just another example of her getting on someone's case by accusing them of misstating facts or trying to be deceitful. It's just not helpful to people who read these threads, IMO. That's all I was trying to say.

If you want loope perfection, can you ever really get a piece with melee? Just a general question -- don't mean to threadjack

How is this not a personal attack? Because you have different priorities for your diamond, doesn't make you an expert and doesn't mean AJ misstated facts or was deceitful. I read the other thread. David Atlas said you get what you pay for. Jon described how he chooses his diamonds. I don't understand your hostility toward AJ, but IMO it is misplaced and not helpful to this--or any other--thread.

 

[Dreamer_D]

Date: 6/4/2009 2:20:46 PM
Author: about2begin
AJ,

Here''s what I''m talking about:

https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/is-the-diamond-price-premium-for-certain-online-retailers-worth-it.111443/

Your statement (after quoting the first line pasted below):

5K difference ? something don''t sound right what did you end up buying? specs?

''I agree, I don''t see this how this figure can be correct, and would like to know what two diamonds you are comparing. GOG does not have that much of a markup over other internet vendors.''



You get all worked up whenever people aren''t praising vendors. It''s annoying. I don''t have tons of examples, but 2 is plenty (make it 3 now in this thread). I only read your posts in the threads that I write in or start -- you''re almost batting .1000. What you''re doing is not constructive; it adds nothing.

Leon''s work is handmade -- it''s amazing. I would recommend him to anyone.

Okay, I read that whole thread you cited here expecting to read a big rant from AJ (who is indeed a very passionate woman, a good thing IMO), and all there is is one little comment that is exactly what DF had already said... C''mon man, citing that link as a reason for attacking AJ makes you look a little bit paranoid!

And yup, I think you are attacking her, even more so after reading your "evidence".

Prettycat WF uses the same color melee in all their pieces, F/G, they don''t even carry lower color melee since they have it cut to their ideal parameters. So it is very unlikely that the melee color was any different from one ring to the next. But we can''t tell anyways without pictures. I hope you get something you love elsewhere!

 

[Indylady]

Date: 6/4/2009 2:20:46 PM
Author: about2begin
AJ,


Here''s what I''m talking about:


https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/is-the-diamond-price-premium-for-certain-online-retailers-worth-it.111443/


Your statement (after quoting the first line pasted below):


5K difference ? something don''t sound right what did you end up buying? specs?


''I agree, I don''t see this how this figure can be correct, and would like to know what two diamonds you are comparing. GOG does not have that much of a markup over other internet vendors.''




You get all worked up whenever people aren''t praising vendors. It''s annoying. I don''t have tons of examples, but 2 is plenty (make it 3 now in this thread). I only read your posts in the threads that I write in or start -- you''re almost batting .1000. What you''re doing is not constructive; it adds nothing.


Leon''s work is handmade -- it''s amazing. I would recommend him to anyone.

Whoa whoa whoa...I don''t think that there is anything wrong about politely asking for a little clarification. Perhaps you have been personally offended by her; in that case, you may want to reconsider posting on a public forum where you might meet many people with many different opinions and styles of communication.

 

[D&T]

is it the metal underneath the melees? that looks dark? that''s what I''m seeing and with the melees being ideal that it will reflect what it surrounds.

 

[RubyCharm]

Date: 6/4/2009 6:21:20 PM
Author: diamondseeker2006
I think you can get greater perfection with cast or die struck pieces. I''ve seen a Ritani ring under the jeweler''s microscope and it looked pretty perfect. But it''s cast and not handmade. personally, I''d prefer handmade. But I think the poster of this thread might be better suited to cast or die struck.

I totally agree!

As a perfectionist myself, I''d personally recommend *fine* die struck jewelry. Van Craeynest, for example, makes die-struck pieces with amazing details

, and their workmanship is near flawless (I actually couldn''t find any flaws under 10X magnification). However, superior workmanship can be

By the way, prettycat, I noticed that the second ring didn''t have milgrain edges on the shank but the first one did. Did you request that change? I actually think the milgrain edges looked nicer.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Date: 6/4/2009 10:48:31 PM
Author: RubyCharm

Date: 6/4/2009 6:21:20 PM
Author: diamondseeker2006
I think you can get greater perfection with cast or die struck pieces. I''ve seen a Ritani ring under the jeweler''s microscope and it looked pretty perfect. But it''s cast and not handmade. personally, I''d prefer handmade. But I think the poster of this thread might be better suited to cast or die struck.

I totally agree!

As a perfectionist myself, I''d personally recommend *fine* die struck jewelry. Van Craeynest, for example, makes die-struck pieces with amazing details

, and their workmanship is near flawless (I actually couldn''t find any flaws under 10X magnification). However, superior workmanship can be

By the way, prettycat, I noticed that the second ring didn''t have milgrain edges on the shank but the first one did. Did you request that change? I actually think the milgrain edges looked nicer.

Ditto to Van Craeynest!!!!

(I need to look and see if you ever got your remake back!)

I believe that was someone else''s ring with the milgrain (I loved it!).

 

[arjunajane]

Thankyou Steel, Risingsun, Dreamer, and szh07.
It is nice to have support from those who actually do know my posting style and history on this forum.



About2begin - how about we agree to disagree and avoid each other please? You clearly have the wrong impression of me, based off of 3 or 4 posts out of my total count of almost 6000...I''d like to move on from our disagreement and I''d appreciate if you would too.


atroop - you are correct about the photo being zoomed. That''s why I asked "is it just me?" because I did that collage at about 1.30 in the am so I knew I could be missing something. Good catch.

 

[ficklefaye]

prettycat, i was in a very similar situation as you, i had two settings made and i just wasn''t happy with them, they were both cast and not handmade and to me they just weren''t perfect, loupe or no loupe, i am also very detail oriented, i finally got my third setting made and this time it was handmade, honestly this setting has its variations but i absolutely love it, sometimes you just have to accept a ring for what it is, it''s not always a flaw, i think it gives my ring personality

a loupe can never capture the beauty of a ring

 

[strmrdr]

one topic that I think needs attention is what level of magnification is legitimate for checking ring looks.
I think 20/20 vision is the answer for some people with poor vision that means about 2x magnification max.

No affordable ring will stand up to 10x there are some people that can make rings that would but the time spent equals big money if they want to eat.

What will come closest other than a plain band is a die struck then cnc machined eternity style band with a top diamond setter doing the setting.
Base accuracy of .01 inch is possible before setting the stones. (they generally don't use machines that will do .001 or .0001 or more because their is no need to)
Nothing else comes close at an reasonable price point when your talking 10x.
At 10x a spec of dust can throw things off.

 

[Imdanny]

Date: 5/7/2009 7:42:51 PM
Author: mrssalvo

Date: 5/7/2009 4:57:34 PM

Author: prettycat

Thanks for all the comments and suggestions! I looked at the ring again. To be specific, one side of the ring looks OK, but the other side is worse. One melee stone is off center, and the tiny prongs are not in their right postions. I have poor eyesight so it's hard for me to catch these with eyes, but my husband can see when looking closely. He doesn't care a bit though.


If it's just normal for a hand-made ring, as many people here said, then I would rather get a plain setting without those melee stones.

First, I didn't think WF rings were handmade. Aren't they machine cast and hand set? If so, there is a difference. But, I do think it is unrealistic to expect perfection with anything done by hand and it's a hard lesson I've had to learn myself. I owned a 3-sided pave handmade designer ring and never louped it. I could not see one flaw with my eyes and I was happy with that. I didn't want to ruin it's beauty by louping and finding something wrong. As others have said, it is possible to achieve a more perfect, even under a loupe ring, but it will cost you a lot more than the WF ring did. You very well may be a good candidate for a machine made solitaire and there is nothing at all wrong with that. Honestly, I don't see any problems in the picture you posted but if there really is something off that is fixable I still think it would be worth it to give WF a call and let them know and give them the opportunity to see if they can make you happy.

Mrs. Salvo, I just wanted to take a minute and say that I always enjoy reading your informative and kind posts. Your posts enrich my experience of Pricescope. Thank you so much.

 

[TravelingGal]

Date: 6/5/2009 12:20:42 AM
Author: arjunajane
Thankyou Steel, Risingsun, Dreamer, and szh07.
It is nice to have support from those who actually do know my posting style and history on this forum.



About2begin - how about we agree to disagree and avoid each other please? You clearly have the wrong impression of me, based off of 3 or 4 posts out of my total count of almost 6000...I''d like to move on from our disagreement and I''d appreciate if you would too.


atroop - you are correct about the photo being zoomed. That''s why I asked ''is it just me?'' because I did that collage at about 1.30 in the am so I knew I could be missing something. Good catch.

Dude, AJ, Glad someone pointed it out because I was going to ask what you were smoking!

I''m thinking, uh...that second pic was shot at closer range, woman!

 

[VRBeauty]

PC -- that''s a stunning design and I''m sure you were looking forward to receiving it. I''m sorry you were disappointed.

 

[arjunajane]

Date: 6/5/2009 2:49:47 AM
Author: TravelingGal

Date: 6/5/2009 12:20:42 AM
Author: arjunajane


atroop - you are correct about the photo being zoomed. That''s why I asked ''is it just me?'' because I did that collage at about 1.30 in the am so I knew I could be missing something. Good catch.

Dude, AJ, Glad someone pointed it out because I was going to ask what you were smoking!

I''m thinking, uh...that second pic was shot at closer range, woman!

rofl, thanks TG - no, not smoking, just staying up til 2am and

. Why, does it show?

 

[arjunajane]

Date: 6/5/2009 1:34:02 AM
Author: strmrdr
one topic that I think needs attention is what level of magnification is legitimate for checking ring looks.
I think 20/20 vision is the answer for some people with poor vision that means about 2x magnification max.

No affordable ring will stand up to 10x there are some people that can make rings that would but the time spent equals big money if they want to eat.

What will come closest other than a plain band is a die struck then cnc machined eternity style band with a top diamond setter doing the setting.
Base accuracy of .01 inch is possible before setting the stones. (they generally don''t use machines that will do .001 or .0001 or more because their is no need to)
Nothing else comes close at an reasonable price point when your talking 10x.
At 10x a spec of dust can throw things off.

exactly - cheers Strm for explaining.

 

[RubyCharm]

Date: 6/4/2009 11:10:42 PM
Author: diamondseeker2006

Date: 6/4/2009 10:48:31 PM

Author: RubyCharm

Date: 6/4/2009 6:21:20 PM

Author: diamondseeker2006

I think you can get greater perfection with cast or die struck pieces. I''ve seen a Ritani ring under the jeweler''s microscope and it looked pretty perfect. But it''s cast and not handmade. personally, I''d prefer handmade. But I think the poster of this thread might be better suited to cast or die struck.

I totally agree!


As a perfectionist myself, I''d personally recommend *fine* die struck jewelry. Van Craeynest, for example, makes die-struck pieces with amazing details

, and their workmanship is near flawless (I actually couldn''t find any flaws under 10X magnification). However, superior workmanship can be

By the way, prettycat, I noticed that the second ring didn''t have milgrain edges on the shank but the first one did. Did you request that change? I actually think the milgrain edges looked nicer.

Ditto to Van Craeynest!!!!

(I need to look and see if you ever got your remake back!)


I believe that was someone else''s ring with the milgrain (I loved it!).

(It''s on its way!!! Larry sent it yesterday by USPS registered/insured mail

So, stay tuned for pics!

)