>.73 D VS1 cost

[zso]

Hi,

I need to get the missus a annvesary ring... 25 yrs. coming around.
Through my brother in law, I got a recomendation to a small Philly dealer, on jewelers row.
I ordered a 3 stone ring for 5400 and wondering if this is an okay deal. Total 1.47 carat.

Here are the specs from a 1991 GIA certification

.73 carrat
Color D
Clarity VS1
5.78 - 5.89 x 3.44

Depth 59%
Table 65%
Girdle Medium to thick, faucet
Culet Small
Polish Good
Symmetry Good
Flourescence Faint
Cost 3450

The too smaller stones are F VS1, but not certified.

.36 carat
4.67, 4.60, 2.78, 60, 63, 11.7 45.4

.38 carats
4.68, 4.62, 2.94, 63.20, 58, 14.0, 45.2

I did not put any money down yet, the 5400 includes a white gold trellis ring.

Any opinions would be appreciated

ZSO

 

[Kaleigh]

I know jewelers row well. Don''t buy from there please!! Look online. Seriously.

 

[belle]

if you want better quality and better prices, buy from one of the recommended vendors here.

 

[zso]

Date: 2/18/2006 6:13:25 PM
Author: belle
if you want better quality and better prices, buy from one of the recommended vendors here.

I sure I can get a better deal on the net, however not previewing a purchase, a couple of thousand at stake. I would think buying locally is safer. The dealer stated to me that he eventually will close shop because he cannot compete with the internet.
Whats wrong with a local dealer, especially if he is reputable?

The question was... is the price okay, does not have to be great.

ZSO

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Read on here about cut. A table on the center stone of 65% is not very good. It is overkill to pay for D color, especially in a stone that is not a good cut anyway. Look at F and G for a very colorless stone and you can look at VS 1 and 2 to stay with a nice clarity, and choose an ideal or excellent cut.

Here is an example of a much better stone:

http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-1879201.htm

 

[tulip928]

Please! shop around and listen to the good advice you get here on Pricescope. At 25 years, she''s worth it!!! and you won''t be sorry.

 

[belle]

Date: 2/18/2006 6:54:30 PM
Author: zso

Date: 2/18/2006 6:13:25 PM
Author: belle
if you want better quality and better prices, buy from one of the recommended vendors here.

I sure I can get a better deal on the net, however not previewing a purchase, a couple of thousand at stake. I would think buying locally is safer. The dealer stated to me that he eventually will close shop because he cannot compete with the internet.
Whats wrong with a local dealer, especially if he is reputable?

The question was... is the price okay, does not have to be great.

ZSO

actually, with a couple of thousand dollars at stake, you should get a good diamond at least.
your dealer isn''t going to go out of business just because his prices are too high. he''s going to go out of business because he''s selling poor diamonds at high prices. if you''re not open to paying better prices for better quality, then yes..that price is right on. enjoy your diamond!

 

[zso]

Date: 2/18/2006 7:04:16 PM
Author: diamondseeker2006
Read on here about cut. A table on the center stone of 65% is not very good. It is overkill to pay for D color, especially in a stone that is not a good cut anyway. Look at F and G for a very colorless stone and you can look at VS 1 and 2 to stay with a nice clarity, and choose an ideal or excellent cut.

Here is an example of a much better stone:

http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-1879201.htm

Okay listening to good advice, I checked a couple of web sites, whiteflash, bluenile, Mondera, goodoldgold, and sure I can get a better quality center stone, but when I try to build a ring, with descent side stones. I get prices well above the 5400, then I cannot get the same style ring and finally the ring and setting costs are typcally non refundable.

Doing a custom ring with good stones and sight unseen very difficult on the net.

ZSO

 

[pinkflamingo]

What about this setting: ($1150 and platinum)

http://www.exceldiamonds.com/-Engagement-Rings-5/3-Stone-Diamond-Engagement-Rings-13/Exceldiamonds-3-Stone-Truffle-Diamond-Engagement-Ring-Setting-668.html

with this center stone

http://www.exceldiamonds.com/diamond/364.html $2349

with these sidestones:
http://www.exceldiamonds.com/diamond/785.html $556

http://www.exceldiamonds.com/diamond/783.html $624

I get $4679. Add in No tax and free shipping, how can you go wrong?

 

[E B]

Here''s another option!

Three Stone Setting ($1280 Plat, would be significantly cheaper in WG...ask about this)

Center Stone $2799 (check to see if this is eye-clean)

Sidestone #1 $539
Sidestone #2 $522

Total= $5140, less with a WG setting. TCW= 1.43

 

[WinkHPD]

Date: 2/18/2006 6:02:03 PM
Author:zso

Here are the specs from a 1991 GIA certification

.73 carrat
Color D
Clarity VS1
5.78 - 5.89 x 3.44

Depth 59%
Table 65%
Girdle Medium to thick, faucet
Culet Small
Polish Good
Symmetry Good
Flourescence Faint
Cost 3450

Such a stone cut like this should sell on the net for no more than $2,500 and probably for less. There is a reason that this stone has not sold since it certed, it is not likely to be very attractive. Go look at some more stones, try to find some that are well cut so that you can see what you are missing.

A .73ct D-VS1H&A stone in a top AGS 0 cut grade should sell in the $4,000-4,400 range and if you saw the two side by side you would opt to pay the extra, but as has been suggested you can drop down two or three color grades, a couple of clarity grades and get an H&A cut diamond for less than this one.

You can also save money by getting a "merely" well cut diamond that will still put the above stinker to shame, making you truly a hero. If you are the kind of hard working husband that I am, you know well enough that after 25 years of marriage there are times you really want to be the hero, not the goat. Many well cut diamonds are well worthy of celebrating special occassions, the above mentioned diamond is VERY likely to dissapoint once removed from the jewelers powerful lighting.

Wink

 

[valeria101]

Date: 2/18/2006 6:02:03 PM
Author:zso


.73 carrat
Color D
Clarity VS1
5.78 - 5.89 x 3.44

Depth 59%
Table 65%

Ok... it sounds like the very clear and colorless diamond material ... that may not fare too well on the relatively recent cut grades the old cert missed by a decade.

If this doesn't matter for you, great - someone in that shop would probably sigh with a bit of relief to have sold the respective stone not long before cut grades get even more popular. Their presence on GIA certs should help that... and chances are that would discount that stone even further. Even if GIA cut grades are not the most picky around... I sort of doubt the seller would insist to find out (i.e. renew the lab report to obtain cut grades).

Anyway, there seems to be plenty worse out there and with diamonds allot less than a matter of life and death, everything about them is a matter of opinion

I can't know what this stone looks like, but at least some range of proposetions may result in something not bad (e.g. with 11-12% crown, AGS4... with a bit of 'fish eye'... or somethinglike that). Honestly, D/VS sort of hykes up expectations about cut too.

 

[valeria101]

Btw. It may be that some ideal cut rounds are more expensive than that, but there are some ''levels'' of premium cut and basically... technical perfection which have something to do with prices too. Given what the starting point is here, I''d bet it would not take the most precise and optimized diamond in the world to make a tempting alternative.

If the seller you have already went for can get you an alternative, all for the better. It sure is handier for me to ''fish'' examples on top of this page. Besides, it is always done

How does 0.71 E/VS2 sound... $3300 or so. The grades are still esotheirc, and I''d probably need a bit of time to tell which is the D and which is the E given proper conditions and the diamonds loose.

I might do something else for the same cash, but that is another story.

 

[valeria101]

Date: 2/18/2006 6:02:03 PM
Author:zso


... the 5400 includes a white gold trellis ring.

saw a setting mentioned for $1200 or so on this thread... Platinum? Dunno, the 'standard' issue off the rack setting is allot less. No wonder the jeweler give it on the side, it surely is cheaper for them than the $300-$400 listed online. Does it look like this?

Choosing the stones does not mean 'custom'. Having the setting handmade, does... but that is a different story.