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3 Idealscopes (James Allen stones) - Which to pick?

ShinySearcher

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I have three JamesAllen stones I am choosing between and the info and idealscopes are below, including links to cert/40x image/rotating image. Please help let me know what you think is best? I have these in rank of what James Allen Gemoligist liked from best to worst. Thought please? In time crunch. Thank you all.

$7310 - GIA Triple X- 1.20 CT - F - Si2 - HCA 1.7 (X, Vg, VG, Ex)
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.20-carat-f-color-si2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-264299
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$7590 - GIA Triple X - 1.10 CT - G - Si1 - HCA 1.5 (Vg, X, X, VG)
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.10-carat-g-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-246990
246990id.jpg

$7330 - GIA Triple X - 1.16 CT - F - Si2 - HCA 2.6 ( VG, Vg, VG, Vg)
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.16-carat-f-color-si2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-252043
252043id.jpg
 
They all look pretty decent. Go with the recommended stone?
 
Yeah I like the first one as for the best idealscope and best size but I am a little worried about clarity with an Si2 with several clarity characteristics. I have heard red is best on idealscopes and not pink; these three I posted seem more pink then red? is that just how the pic was taken?
 
The darkest red in that particular photograph is what you call "red." "white" is the lightest color, usually found near the arrow tips and by the "watermelon seeds." Pink is anything in between those two, which you will usually find under the table. Don't compare the red of JA's photos to the red of BGD's photos, the colors will look different but they mean the same thing.
 
The first one looks the best to me. The colour saturation probably is due to how the machine is calibrated. Different vndour have different 'red'tones in their IS.
 
all 3 pass the IS test.
The next test since they are all SI based on wisps is if they suffer from scatter from the twinning wisps and if there are any eye visible inclusions.
This is where the gemologists opinion is very important.
 
Daisyoz|1386319626|3568665 said:
The colour saturation probably is due to how the machine is calibrated. Different vndour have different 'red'tones in their IS.
correct and more than a few vendors have set adjustment they add to every image to boost the colors and or contrast.
 
Karl_K|1386320583|3568668 said:
all 3 pass the IS test.
The next test since they are all SI based on wisps is if they suffer from scatter from the twinning wisps and if there are any eye visible inclusions.
This is where the gemologists opinion is very important.

Thank you for input. What exactly is scatter? I am so nervous about getting an Si2 online.

I am also looking at local store at a 1.21 CT GIA Excellent Cut, Excellent Polish, Very Good Symmetry, G color, SI2 (feather - but best Si2 Ive seen and is eyeclean), no fluor, HCA score 1.1 ( X,X,X, VG) with 54% table, 61.8 depth, 33.5 Crown, 41 pavillion, 3% faceted. I have another post about it but would love your input. It showed clean hearts and arrows also under the viewer. I dont have ideal-scope of this. The issue is that is 7900+ tax so 8500, which I feel is high for 1.21 Ex, G, SI2 but it is truly shiny and beautiful in the store and it also looked good outside. It did look a little "dark" compared to ring setting but they said thats normal because the center stone is much bigger.


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scatter: is when the stone appears to shimmer inside like a snow globe when viewed up close from reflections being broken up by the tiny inclusions.
That means that some light return is being blocked by the inclusions.
 
ShinySearcher|1386349764|3568826 said:
I am also looking at local store at a 1.21 CT GIA Excellent Cut, Excellent Polish, Very Good Symmetry, G color, SI2 (feather - but best Si2 Ive seen and is eyeclean), no fluor, HCA score 1.1 ( X,X,X, VG) with 54% table, 61.8 depth, 33.5 Crown, 41 pavillion, 3% faceted. I have another post about it but would love your input. It showed clean hearts and arrows also under the viewer. I dont have ideal-scope of this. The issue is that is 7900+ tax so 8500, which I feel is high for 1.21 Ex, G, SI2 but it is truly shiny and beautiful in the store and it also looked good outside. It did look a little "dark" compared to ring setting but they said thats normal because the center stone is much bigger.
That stone sounds fine.
The angles work together and you have cleared it yourself.

When buying an si2 you have to let the vendor be your eyes until you can see it in person.
A good return policy is mandatory.
some people are just more comfortable buying locally and there is nothing wrong with that.
Your paying a little more for what brings you peace of mind.
 
Thank you for the positive feedback. I love all that I have learned from PS although when asking about this local stone most of the input was that I could do much better online for same price. I know that is probably true but I really just needed to get some expert opinion on this local stone to verify its a winner. I know with just a cert and my input its hard to really know for sure.

Anyway thank you for the help.
 
ShinySearcher|1386365923|3569039 said:
Thank you for the positive feedback. I love all that I have learned from PS although when asking about this local stone most of the input was that I could do much better online for same price. I know that is probably true but I really just needed to get some expert opinion on this local stone to verify its a winner. I know with just a cert and my input its hard to really know for sure.

Anyway thank you for the help.
It is just a hair outside the usual range recommended here so you will get varying opinions.
That range is not all inclusive of all possible good combos and there are many good combos outside that range.
That diamond has potential by the numbers(which is all numbers tell you, particularly gia numbers).
The rest of the information you provided reinforces that it has high potential.
That is as high as I can get without images or seeing the diamond myself.
 
Karl_K|1386367857|3569059 said:
ShinySearcher|1386365923|3569039 said:
Thank you for the positive feedback. I love all that I have learned from PS although when asking about this local stone most of the input was that I could do much better online for same price. I know that is probably true but I really just needed to get some expert opinion on this local stone to verify its a winner. I know with just a cert and my input its hard to really know for sure.

Anyway thank you for the help.
It is just a hair outside the usual range recommended here so you will get varying opinions.
That range is not all inclusive of all possible good combos and there are many good combos outside that range.
That diamond has potential by the numbers(which is all numbers tell you, particularly gia numbers).
The rest of the information you provided reinforces that it has high potential.
That is as high as I can get without images or seeing the diamond myself.

Thank you, what is outside the usual recommended numbers?
 
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