2 Round Brilliant & 2 H&A Diamonds. Which one is your pick??

[kewlj]

HI Everyone and Diamond Experts,

I'm about to purchase 1 diamond ring.
I have put together all available information of all diamonds that has similar / same price.
Let's assume all price are equal, what will be your order of preference and why ?

 

[kewlj]

Re: 2 Round Brilliant & 2 H&A Diamonds. Which one is your pi

Pic of Diamond 4

 

[04diamond<3]

Re: 2 Round Brilliant & 2 H&A Diamonds. Which one is your pi

personally, if you're more budget conscious, then I'd go with the .79, but if money isnt an object, I'd go with the .76 VS1..they both look great, good luck!

 

[kewlj]

Re: 2 Round Brilliant & 2 H&A Diamonds. Which one is your pi

personally, if you're more budget conscious, then I'd go with the .79, but if money isnt an object, I'd go with the .76 VS1..they both look great, good luck!

did you think that 0.76 light performance will be better ?

 

[Enerchi]

Re: 2 Round Brilliant & 2 H&A Diamonds. Which one is your pi

Admittedly no where near as knowledgeable as the experts here on PS but I'd go with 3. I'd take AGS over GIA. I like the light return better and would accept those inclusions over the other options. But .... I'd wait for more experienced diamond experts to chime in!

 

[04diamond<3]

Re: 2 Round Brilliant & 2 H&A Diamonds. Which one is your pi

well, they're so close in dimenssions that I would think you'd base it on clarity next. VS1 is better than VS2 which will give you a better sparkle.

 

[ame]

Re: 2 Round Brilliant & 2 H&A Diamonds. Which one is your pi

well, they're so close in dimenssions that I would think you'd base it on clarity next. VS1 is better than VS2 which will give you a better sparkle.

Um, no. Except in VERY rare instances with clouds and possibly VERY strong flor, until you are into bad-plot SI2s and I1-3 clarities you're not going to be having any ill effects on sparkle. CUT is what dictates sparkle, not clarity or color or carat. If it's poorly cut, it could be D FL and still be butt ugly.

 

[slg47]

Re: 2 Round Brilliant & 2 H&A Diamonds. Which one is your pi

do you have an idealscope image of diamond 4?

also, I would probably pick based on price! if price is no object then eliminate the first one because it is smaller than the rest.

did your rep recommend one?

ETA also no difference in sparkle with VS2/VS1...you are fine there.

 

[kewlj]

Re: 2 Round Brilliant & 2 H&A Diamonds. Which one is your pi

do you have an idealscope image of diamond 4?

also, I would probably pick based on price! if price is no object then eliminate the first one because it is smaller than the rest.

did your rep recommend one?

ETA also no difference in sparkle with VS2/VS1...you are fine there.

Hi,

I don’t have idealscope image for diamond 4.

Price is not in the factor here.
Since, 0.75 vs 0.8 isn’t much of a difference, what do you think if we just look at brilliance, fire, and scintillation performance ?

 

[milton333]

Re: 2 Round Brilliant & 2 H&A Diamonds. Which one is your pi

I'd go with #3, but I'd ask if you would consider going down to SI1 in clarity to potentially get a larger stone. It looks like you're getting enough info from your vendor(s) to be able to ask if an SI1 is eye clean. I own an H SI1, and it's kind of a budgeting sweet spot. Color is good, I can't see any inclusions. My stone is a .82, so a similar size to what you're looking at, and mine is an AGS 000. I'd check to see what's available in SI1 and ask if it's eye clean.

 

[kewlj]

Re: 2 Round Brilliant & 2 H&A Diamonds. Which one is your pi

I'd go with #3, but I'd ask if you would consider going down to SI1 in clarity to potentially get a larger stone. It looks like you're getting enough info from your vendor(s) to be able to ask if an SI1 is eye clean. I own an H SI1, and it's kind of a budgeting sweet spot. Color is good, I can't see any inclusions. My stone is a .82, so a similar size to what you're looking at, and mine is an AGS 000. I'd check to see what's available in SI1 and ask if it's eye clean.

Why did you pick number 3 ?

 

[milton333]

Re: 2 Round Brilliant & 2 H&A Diamonds. Which one is your pi

AGS 000 - ideal cut, symmetry, and polish. H color. Size.

 

[milton333]

Re: 2 Round Brilliant & 2 H&A Diamonds. Which one is your pi

Also, I don't know what your budget is, but here are a few others (don't forget to ask about a Pricescope discount):

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2728081.htm
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/0.807-G-SI1-Round-Diamond-AGS-104055878079
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/0.802-H-VS2-Round-Diamond-AGS-104055121022
http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2709022.htm

 

[kewlj]

Re: 2 Round Brilliant & 2 H&A Diamonds. Which one is your pi

AGS 000 - ideal cut, symmetry, and polish. H color. Size.

i'm trying to select the diamond based on it's light performance. Size from 0.75 - 0.8 doesn't differ much.

which of these do you think will perform the best ?

 

[slg47]

Re: 2 Round Brilliant & 2 H&A Diamonds. Which one is your pi

These all look like good choices. I would probably also pick 3 because of the H color and size. However I don't think any of these stones is a 'bad' choice. Which one did the vendor recommend?

We don't have enough information to make performance distinctions between these diamonds.

 

[kewlj]

Re: 2 Round Brilliant & 2 H&A Diamonds. Which one is your pi

These all look like good choices. I would probably also pick 3 because of the H color and size. However I don't think any of these stones is a 'bad' choice. Which one did the vendor recommend?

We don't have enough information to make performance distinctions between these diamonds.

they are going to do inspection for diamond 2,3 & 4
i can only choose 3 diamonds for inspections.

 

[0-0-0]

Re: 2 Round Brilliant & 2 H&A Diamonds. Which one is your pi

If you want more fire, diamond 3 is probably the better choice with the higher crown.

 

[kewlj]

Re: 2 Round Brilliant & 2 H&A Diamonds. Which one is your pi

If you want more fire, diamond 3 is probably the better choice with the higher crown.

Hi, I have idealscope image for diamond 2 & 3.

Please let me know what you think of light return comparison based on the ideal scope image.

thank you

 

[ame]

Re: 2 Round Brilliant & 2 H&A Diamonds. Which one is your pi

Image alone, #3 based on the image directly above me here. Though I don't love the ASET from the first post on this stone.

 

[04diamond<3]

Re: 2 Round Brilliant & 2 H&A Diamonds. Which one is your pi

well, they're so close in dimenssions that I would think you'd base it on clarity next. VS1 is better than VS2 which will give you a better sparkle.

Um, no. Except in VERY rare instances with clouds and possibly VERY strong flor, until you are into bad-plot SI2s and I1-3 clarities you're not going to be having any ill effects on sparkle. CUT is what dictates sparkle, not clarity or color or carat. If it's poorly cut, it could be D FL and still be butt ugly.

Um - except they're both ideal cut, and H & A diamonds, so neither is going to be butt ugly. I was saying since they're both ideal cut that I'd chose based on clarity vs size - .76 VS1 .

 

[ame]

Re: 2 Round Brilliant & 2 H&A Diamonds. Which one is your pi

well, they're so close in dimenssions that I would think you'd base it on clarity next. VS1 is better than VS2 which will give you a better sparkle.

Um, no. Except in VERY rare instances with clouds and possibly VERY strong flor, until you are into bad-plot SI2s and I1-3 clarities you're not going to be having any ill effects on sparkle. CUT is what dictates sparkle, not clarity or color or carat. If it's poorly cut, it could be D FL and still be butt ugly.

Um - except they're both ideal cut, and H & A diamonds, so neither is going to be butt ugly. I was saying since they're both ideal cut that I'd chose based on clarity vs size - .76 VS1 .

Again: Clarity will not affect sparkle when you're in the VS clarity range. Cut quality is what determines that.

If you wanted to say that if it was your selection to make you would go with clarity over size when cut quality is equal otherwise, that's what you should've said. Instead you made an inaccurate statement about clarity affecting the sparkle.

 

[kewlj]

Re: 2 Round Brilliant & 2 H&A Diamonds. Which one is your pi

Image alone, #3 based on the image directly above me here. Though I don't love the ASET from the first post on this stone.

hi ame, i thought #3 has more light leakage than #2?

 

[ame]

Re: 2 Round Brilliant & 2 H&A Diamonds. Which one is your pi

On the aset it looks like that, but that image is not big enough for me to actually make it out. The ASET on #2 is looking fantastic.

The IS on the second one (#3) looks...off color to me. It looks like it was digitally brightened.

Where I lose interest in #2 is that there are cavities noted on the plot. That to me is a dealbreaker no matter how nicely cut it is.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Re: 2 Round Brilliant & 2 H&A Diamonds. Which one is your pi

I prefer #3. Ideal cut, higher color, good clarity, nice images, easy choice for me!

I was with a PS friend the other day when she was choosing a diamond, and I can tell you that she was exchanging an I color stone in which we could easily see the tint for another I color that was whiter (possibly partially due to having fluorescence). Unless you can see the I stones and compare them, I think the H color is a far safer bet.

(Those asets look like they are the computer generated ones copied from the lab reports and not actual aset images, So I would not use those as a deciding factor.)

 

[yrrp3738]

Re: 2 Round Brilliant & 2 H&A Diamonds. Which one is your pi

I will choose #3. Good cut and combination of color and clarity.

 

[04diamond<3]

Re: 2 Round Brilliant & 2 H&A Diamonds. Which one is your pi

well, they're so close in dimenssions that I would think you'd base it on clarity next. VS1 is better than VS2 which will give you a better sparkle.

Um, no. Except in VERY rare instances with clouds and possibly VERY strong flor, until you are into bad-plot SI2s and I1-3 clarities you're not going to be having any ill effects on sparkle. CUT is what dictates sparkle, not clarity or color or carat. If it's poorly cut, it could be D FL and still be butt ugly.

Um - except they're both ideal cut, and H & A diamonds, so neither is going to be butt ugly. I was saying since they're both ideal cut that I'd chose based on clarity vs size - .76 VS1 .

Again: Clarity will not affect sparkle when you're in the VS clarity range. Cut quality is what determines that.

If you wanted to say that if it was your selection to make you would go with clarity over size when cut quality is equal otherwise, that's what you should've said. Instead you made an inaccurate statement about clarity affecting the sparkle.

Wow - I'm sorry, but you're definitely taking what I've been saying 100% wrong. Not going to try to explain myself again.

 

[ame]

Re: 2 Round Brilliant & 2 H&A Diamonds. Which one is your pi

well, they're so close in dimenssions that I would think you'd base it on clarity next. VS1 is better than VS2 which will give you a better sparkle.

Um, no. Except in VERY rare instances with clouds and possibly VERY strong flor, until you are into bad-plot SI2s and I1-3 clarities you're not going to be having any ill effects on sparkle. CUT is what dictates sparkle, not clarity or color or carat. If it's poorly cut, it could be D FL and still be butt ugly.

Um - except they're both ideal cut, and H & A diamonds, so neither is going to be butt ugly. I was saying since they're both ideal cut that I'd chose based on clarity vs size - .76 VS1 .

Again: Clarity will not affect sparkle when you're in the VS clarity range. Cut quality is what determines that.

If you wanted to say that if it was your selection to make you would go with clarity over size when cut quality is equal otherwise, that's what you should've said. Instead you made an inaccurate statement about clarity affecting the sparkle.

Wow - I'm sorry, but you're definitely taking what I've been saying 100% wrong. Not going to try to explain myself again.

There is nothing for you to explain to us, and I am not "taking it wrong". There's nothing to mis-take: You gave inaccurate information and I clarified that for people who are reading this thread so that they don't go out and overbuy in clarity because they think that it won't sparkle as much because it's a VS2 or an SI1 even. A ideal cut stone with a VS1 clarity grade will not sparkle more than an ideal cut stone with a clarity grade of VS2. Clarity will NOT affect sparkle and fire in an ideal cut stone until you are well below SI2 clarities. CUT is where sparkle and fire come from, NOT CLARITY.

 

[slg47]

Re: 2 Round Brilliant & 2 H&A Diamonds. Which one is your pi

to the OP...you still haven't said which one the vendor recommends?

 

[kewlj]

Re: 2 Round Brilliant & 2 H&A Diamonds. Which one is your pi

to the OP...you still haven't said which one the vendor recommends?

the vendor recommend diamond 2 as the brightest. followed by diamond 4 and then diamond 3.
Remember that diamond 1 wasn't in the inspection because I can only do 3 diamond inspections.

see below idealscope of diamond 4.

What do you think of diamond 1 vs 2 then ?

 

[kewlj]

Re: 2 Round Brilliant & 2 H&A Diamonds. Which one is your pi

IdealScope 1 vs 2

Also, is cavity really a deal breaker ?