2 Radiants - Help...I''m getting the squeez

[mark27]

Hi,

I need some help. I thought I had this figured out (or at least an idea). I've been looking around for quite awhile and need to pull the trigger on a nice radiant 1ct. Here is what I've got lined up to look at tomorrow:

Ratiant 1 GIA:
1.01 ct
F, VS2
5.42 x 6.22
Depth 70.5%
Table 72%
Sym - GD
Pol - EX
Girdle - Thn-Sl.Thk
Price - $4100


Ratiant 2 GIA:
1.01 ct
F, VS2
6.20 x 5.26 x 3.75
Depth 71.3%
Table 69%
Sym - GD
Pol - GD
Girdle - Thk to Very Thk
Price - $4200

Are these nice diamonds at a good price?

I also found a bunch of radiants out on the DiamondScope Pricescope with lower tables and depths. I've been told by the same guy that anything below 70% table/depth isn't good. Then he told me that, "after futher research," that it's good, but they are extremely hard to find and expensive. Then I did one quick search and found a bunch on Pricescope with lower table/depth percentages. I'm so confused now I'm not sure what a good deal is and what I should be paying for what. Please, can someone help point me in the right direction as I need to have this ready for this weekend. I'm getting the feeling like I'm about to make a bad decision. Thanks!

Ideal Radiant for me:
1ct, F, VVS1 - VS2, Ex pol/sym, more square than not, at or around $4000.

JM

 

[Rook]

According to the AGA cut charts for radiants http://www.gemappraisers.com/chrt3.htm

These are both around a 3A U.S. domestic average. You could do better on the cut, but I will cost more. Of course some do not agree with these charts but they are at least a starting point to help you determine the what would likely result in a quality cut diamond.

They both are a bit deep and the tables are a bit large. Have you seen these yourself? If so, try to find a diamond with the lower table and depth and look at it to compare the difference for yourself. Something with smaller tables and depths may have a better light return, more sparkly.

Also, try to avoid anything with a very thin or very thick girdle. Not only are you paying for ct weight that you can not see, you may also be getting a diamond that is not as brilliant, and possibly (if very thin) more subject to chipping.

Clarity, there is no need to get VVS stone, or even a vs1 for that matter. Just make sure it is 100% eye clean. Sometimes SI1's are eyeclean. As long as it is eye clean, you will not notice the difference. In a VVS1 you will be paying for a quality that you can not see, when compared to say an eye clean vs2 or si1.

It will be very difficult to get ex pol/sym, and possibly not needed. Don't quote me, but I believe that anything good or above, the difference will be not noticable.

Do some research and then try to go look at various diamonds to conceptualize what you learn.

 

[mark27]

Thank you very much. Your suggestions are very much appreciated. I kept reading about lower table and depth percentages, but these clowns keep telling me that they aren't available or that they aren't good (red flag). I'm ok with a VS1-2. I just wanted to shoot a little high to see the difference.

Thanks again for responding!

Regards,
Mark

 

[Rook]

Try Rhino at GoodoldGold. He has found some fabulous pears for me. I am sure in time he could find some stones for you. Also, I had him send me two to look at as well which helps make up your mind.

 

[Giangi]

I agree with everyone else, the cut isn't the best on both stones... If you do a bit of research on the internet, you'll find much finer makes!!! Also, try to avoid thick/very thick girdle like in the second one... You're paying for some hidden weight that you cannot see...

Giangi