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1.35 H Color VS1 Strong Blue Flour

The proportions are good.
The girdle is definitely painted.
Ensure you inspect the stone under different lighting conditions, including strong direct sunlight, to ensure there is no haziness from strong fluo.
 
flyingpig said:
The proportions are good.
The girdle is definitely painted.
Ensure you inspect the stone under different lighting conditions, including strong direct sunlight, to ensure there is no haziness from strong fluo.
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What does it mean for the girdle to be "painted"?
 
@flyingpig , that’s girdle painting pavilion side right? Way too much contrast face up where the arrow heads should be.
 
bmfang said:
@flyingpig , that’s girdle painting pavilion side right? Way too much contrast face up where the arrow heads should be.
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I am not sure if it is crown only, pav only, or both. The large arrowheads do not necessarily mean painting. It may be just the camera being too close to the stone.

This is why I think the girdle is painted.
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Looks similar to the reference pics for pavilion side painting between 8-11 degrees. Happy to be corrected by others more knowledgeable on painting & digging
 
Thanks so much! I am passing on this one. My search continues lol
 
Is it safe to say a VS2 True Heart diamond from JA is safe as far as being eye clean and correct all around proportions?
 
Hi Renmars21,

I was just in your shoes not too long ago. It took me a bit over a month of constantly searching and posting in here for opinions. This place is truly wonderful.

My suggestion to you is that once you suspect a diamond you feel is worthy of a purchase; place the diamond on hold. JA and other websites has a great chat system where they can do this instantly.

Once you've done that, post the link here and wait for opinions.

During my search, I posted a diamond on her and waited for the community to give me the green light. Unfortunately by the time that happened the diamond was purchased. It could have been a random buyer, but it was possible that a lurker on this board may have made the purchase before I can.

Besides that method, I was also posting GIA reports on here with the certificate number blanked out. That way the community can review the GIA report and you would not have to run into the risk of a lurker searching for that diamond and possibly making a purchase.

Good luck to you!
 
Gadabout44 said:
Hi Renmars21,

I was just in your shoes not too long ago. It took me a bit over a month of constantly searching and posting in here for opinions. This place is truly wonderful.

My suggestion to you is that once you suspect a diamond you feel is worthy of a purchase; place the diamond on hold. JA and other websites has a great chat system where they can do this instantly.

Once you've done that, post the link here and wait for opinions.

During my search, I posted a diamond on her and waited for the community to give me the green light. Unfortunately by the time that happened the diamond was purchased. It could have been a random buyer, but it was possible that a lurker on this board may have made the purchase before I can.

Besides that method, I was also posting GIA reports on here with the certificate number blanked out. That way the community can review the GIA report and you would not have to run into the risk of a lurker searching for that diamond and possibly making a purchase.

Good luck to you!
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Great information! I never would have thought to do that. If the diamond is on hold, Is it safe to assum they wouldn’t be able to purchase it even with the GIA cert number.
 
Renmars21 said:
Great information! I never would have thought to do that. If the diamond is on hold, Is it safe to assum they wouldn’t be able to purchase it even with the GIA cert number.
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Yes, if you place the diamond on hold no one can make the purchase and you should feel safe posting the GIA # on here.
 
Gadabout44 said:
Yes, if you place the diamond on hold no one can make the purchase and you should feel safe posting the GIA # on here
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Thank you gadabout44 :)
 
Renmars21 said:
Thank you gadabout44 :)
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Oh, in regards to painted girdles, or bad arrows / hearts or what not. Keep this noted.
The ideal measurements for a round diamond are

  • table: 54-58
  • depth: 60-62.3
  • crown angle: 34-35.0 (up to 35.5 crown angle can sometimes work with a 40.6 pav angle)
  • pavilion angle: 40.6-40.9 (sometimes 41.0 if the crown angle is close to 34)
That was given to me by a member on here. The_Mother_Thing

Also, to help with light performance / fire. Plug in the GIA number or the diamonds measurements on this website https://www.pricescope.com/tools/hca
It should give you a decent understanding on how well the diamond shines based on measurements alone (excludes inclusions)

At this point, I am just trying to dig up useful information that was given to me to help you with your search. I feel for you, it was so stressful and at a certain point I just wanted to give up and make a blind purchase. Just hang in there.
 
The large arrowheads can actually be a result of a pavilion angle being shallower than averaged ( paddles due to obstruction ). GIA used to penalise a stone for what they considered any excessive brillianteering and only award such stones a VG cut grade - I'll have to check if this is still the case, this one however is Triple Ex.

Renmars, you did right to pass I believe, you can find a better looking diamond than this one.
 
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I just want to add that I wouldn’t be afraid of strong blue, it truly makes a diamond more beautiful I think, it looks incredible in the sun where other stones don’t. I can never figure out why people don’t want it, all I can figure is they have never had it before and think it might be a problem. Also, the possibility of it causing haziness seems to be more myth than fact. I know I have wanted to find a diamond that does that and so has at least one other member here, and alas no luck. I have a strong blue stone and it’s my favorite of all my stones. I am dying to one day find an OEC with at least medium blue!
 
Gadabout44 said:
Oh, in regards to painted girdles, or bad arrows / hearts or what not. Keep this noted.
The ideal measurements for a round diamond are

  • table: 54-58
  • depth: 60-62.3
  • crown angle: 34-35.0 (up to 35.5 crown angle can sometimes work with a 40.6 pav angle)
  • pavilion angle: 40.6-40.9 (sometimes 41.0 if the crown angle is close to 34)
That was given to me by a member on here. The_Mother_Thing

Also, to help with light performance / fire. Plug in the GIA number or the diamonds measurements on this website https://www.pricescope.com/tools/hca
It should give you a decent understanding on how well the diamond shines based on measurements alone (excludes inclusions)

At this point, I am just trying to dig up useful information that was given to me to help you with your search. I feel for you, it was so stressful and at a certain point I just wanted to give up and make a blind purchase. Just hang in there.
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Thanks so much for all the helpful information.
 
GearGirly said:
I just want to add that I wouldn’t be afraid of strong blue, it truly makes a diamond more beautiful I think, it looks incredible in the sun where other stones don’t. I can never figure out why people don’t want it, all I can figure is they have never had it before and think it might be a problem. Also, the possibility of it causing haziness seems to be more myth than fact. I know I have wanted to find a diamond that does that and so has at least one other member here, and alas no luck. I have a strong blue stone and it’s my favorite of all my stones. I am dying to one day find an OEC with at least medium blue!
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I think it can be because of fluorescence going in and out of favour over the years and also people want to feel what they've bought is ' good enough' in the eyes of other people. If the general consensus is that fluorescence/warmer colours/ SI or I clarity/ not hitting a magic weight and so on are bad, then that can be tremendously off putting to buyers who feel they're going against the norm, that they've bought ' bad quality'. This can have all sorts of repercussions with things like diamonds for the following reasons ( among many).

'I've bought a bad stone.'
'I've wasted my money.'
'She'll hate it.'
'Her family will hate it.'
'It's not big enough/ too big/ not white enough/ not pure enough/ not worthy of her/ it has fluorescence and so on.

Buying a diamond and remaining happy with that purchase requires education and confidence, you need the first I believe before you can have the other. With the help of posters here and the fact that far more information previously only available to those in the industry, more buyers are informed and buying with confidence and ' Team Blue' with the fluorescence lovers is now a thing, even with a vendor offering top cut fluorescent diamonds - who would have thought!
 
I have these two YouTube videos bookmarked, as I found them both super helpful when researching & considering fluorescence.

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