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… And may I introduce Mrs Darcy

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A few of you heard a rumor a while back that I was saving for a ruby …


She was in an antique Georgian silver on gold bonnet ring, circa 1770, littered with the most incredible old, old cuts … peruzzi’s, tables, antique cushions, and old old mines, each with skyscraper crowns, forming an almost cobblestone like road protecting a pretty pink-red ruby. A ring that was likely forged when Marie Antoinette was in power in France, Catherine The Great ruled Russia, Georgiana Duchess of Devonshire was the talk of the town, Elizabeth and Mr Darcy’s story was being penned into reality by Jane Austen, and music by Handel, Bach, Mozart, and Beethoven echoed through orchestra halls. Stories of the French Revolution, Napoleonic Wars, and American colonies declaring their independence were painted in ink on the daily courant. Weekend balls filled with elaborate, wide-skirted gowns, powdered wigs and incredible jewels were always something to look forward too.

She was expensive, she was a dream. My dream antique piece. She was the ring I seriously considered buying in place of Flora for a long time. Flora won my heart, but I always felt my mind drifting back to the Georgian ring. So I shot for the moon and started putting in dozens of OT shifts, quietly adding to my savings. Inside, wishing there was anything but that beautiful expensive 3ct no heat burma ruby in the center. If there was an aquamarine or a topaz… she would already be mine. Patients quickly filled my OT schedules, one after another after another…. Each shift a little closer to bringing her home.


Two weeks ago, she disappeared from the site she called home for over three years …


There was a glimmer of hope though… I had seen several of the vendors pieces at auction recently… maybe, just maybe she was heading to an auction house and I might have a chance. I pick up the phone …

1st Ring

2nd Ring … my heart is pounding in my chest. “Don’t cry, if she’s sold, it wasn’t meant to be… just hold it together. You’ll have money to shop for something else beautiful, a bracelet is next on your list anyways…” I tell myself

3rd Ring

Hello?” I hear on the other side. I’m so nervous I feel like I’m going to vomit. I begin to brace myself for bad news.

“Ah, yes, our Georgian ring. I’m sorry <my heart drops, I can feel the lump in my throat growing, and I begin to fight the tears that I know are coming> but we removed the ruby and sent it to auction. I still have the setting though.”


Tears immediately start streaming down my cheeks…


Never, Ever give up on your dreams
Believe in yourself
Make a plan
Shoot for the moon if you have too


If someone says, “that’s insane, come down to reality, that’s so far out of reach, be realistic.”

Smile and say, “Watch me.”


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She is an incredible jewel.

She’s not perfect, she has signs of repairs made through the years from owners who refused to give up on her. Yet 250+ years later, she is still just as beautiful as the day she was forged.

She has stood the test of time.



So, without further ado, it is my great honor to introduce to you, Elizabeth:

“Lizzy for every day, My Pearl for Sundays, Goddess Divine but only on *very* special occasions, and when I am completely, and perfectly, and incandescently happy, Mrs Darcy.”

“I will have to tell you: you have bewitched me, body and soul, and I love--I love--I love you. I never wish to be parted from you from this day on.”

Mrs Darcy, I too refuse to give up on you … let’s find you a new gemstone❤️
 
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Oh, what a roller coaster story.
Having travelling such a journey myself I know that horrible sick feeling in your stomach and how the tears sting in your eyes, ready, before release.
Happy days that Mrs Darcy made it home to you and that she is everything you knew she would be.
Ah, that 3ct Burmese ruby, let’s wish her well wherever she ends up. Unfortunate perhaps that she lost her origin but she wasn’t the prize you had your heart set on.
There will be a glorious replacement, perhaps a grass green emerald, perhaps a scintillating blue zircon, even a regal Russian Amethyst. Lots of possible new dance partners for the ever elegant, ever glorious Mrs Darcy.
 
I love the story - the ring was meant to be yours! Looking forward to what will take pride of place in its heart.
 
Oh, what a roller coaster story.
Having travelling such a journey myself I know that horrible sick feeling in your stomach and how the tears sting in your eyes, ready, before release.
Happy days that Mrs Darcy made it home to you and that she is everything you knew she would be.
Ah, that 3ct Burmese ruby, let’s wish her well wherever she ends up. Unfortunate perhaps that she lost her origin but she wasn’t the prize you had your heart set on.
There will be a glorious replacement, perhaps a grass green emerald, perhaps a scintillating blue zircon, even a regal Russian Amethyst. Lots of possible new dance partners for the ever elegant, ever glorious Mrs Darcy.

Thank you! Sprinkling lots of dust along your journey :kiss2:

I’m thinking Sapphire… vivid/intense velvety blue, a couple clicks below royal blue, or a soft pink/padparadscha. My hubby photoshopped a couple gems in the setting for a visual…

If you see something amazing, feel free to tag me or post it in this thread :D
The previous ruby was 11.05 x 7.36mm
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She's absolutely stunning and I can't wait to see her final form. There's something about this sapphire color that just looks right to me:

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Thank you @newtojewels! Something pulled on my heartstrings the first time I saw her … it felt like seeing an old friend. I feel very lucky to be her caretaker, I feel a very strong connection with this ring, something I cannot put into words really,
I will be saving for the gemstone this year, but I agree… that sapphire is incredible. I’m planning on having one gemstone ring (not counting bands, lol) so I’m ok with taking my time to save for something beautiful and splurging.

If you’ve never tried on an antique silver-gold ring, I strongly recommend it. The weight is incredible. It feels like a weighted blanket - I can feel my stress and anxiety melt away. Yes, they are more maintenance, you cannot get them wet, but it is absolutely worth it.
 
Thank you @newtojewels! Something pulled on my heartstrings the first time I saw her … it felt like seeing an old friend. I feel very lucky to be her caretaker, I feel a very strong connection with this ring, something I cannot put into words really,
I will be saving for the gemstone this year, but I agree… that sapphire is incredible. I’m planning on having one gemstone ring (not counting bands, lol) so I’m ok with taking my time to save for something beautiful and splurging.

If you’ve never tried on an antique silver-gold ring, I strongly recommend it. The weight is incredible. It feels like a weighted blanket - I can feel my stress and anxiety melt away. Yes, they are more maintenance, you cannot get them wet, but it is absolutely worth it.

I love how you tell us all about your story and your connection to your beautiful pieces. I can feel how special they are to you in every word! You aren't the only lucky one, Mrs Darcy is very lucky to have such a wonderful caretaker. There are so many Georgian-style pieces that to own the real thing is so special.

Speaking of, Lang is having their summer sale. They don't have many Georgian pieces, but there's this brooch, if you haven't seen it. It's so fun to try to imagine the women who would have originally worn this or Mrs Darcy or Flora!

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What a story! She’s beautiful and couldn’t have asked for a better home. ❤️
 
A few of you heard a rumor a while back that I was saving for a ruby …


She was in an antique Georgian silver on gold bonnet ring, circa 1770, littered with the most incredible old, old cuts … peruzzi’s, tables, antique cushions, and old old mines, each with skyscraper crowns, forming an almost cobblestone like road protecting a pretty pink-red ruby. A ring that was likely forged when Marie Antoinette was in power in France, Catherine The Great ruled Russia, Georgiana Duchess of Devonshire was the talk of the town, Elizabeth and Mr Darcy’s story was being penned into reality by Jane Austen, and music by Handel, Bach, Mozart, and Beethoven echoed through orchestra halls. Stories of the French Revolution, Napoleonic Wars, and American colonies declaring their independence were painted in ink on the daily courant. Weekend balls filled with elaborate, wide-skirted gowns, powdered wigs and incredible jewels were always something to look forward too.

She was expensive, she was a dream. My dream antique piece. She was the ring I seriously considered buying in place of Flora for a long time. Flora won my heart, but I always felt my mind drifting back to the Georgian ring. So I shot for the moon and started putting in dozens of OT shifts, quietly adding to my savings. Inside, wishing there was anything but that beautiful expensive 3ct no heat burma ruby in the center. If there was an aquamarine or a topaz… she would already be mine. Patients quickly filled my OT schedules, one after another after another…. Each shift a little closer to bringing her home.


Two weeks ago, she disappeared from the site she called home for over three years …


There was a glimmer of hope though… I had seen several of the vendors pieces at auction recently… maybe, just maybe she was heading to an auction house and I might have a chance. I pick up the phone …

1st Ring

2nd Ring … my heart is pounding in my chest. “Don’t cry, if she’s sold, it wasn’t meant to be… just hold it together. You’ll have money to shop for something else beautiful, a bracelet is next on your list anyways…” I tell myself

3rd Ring

Hello?” I hear on the other side. I’m so nervous I feel like I’m going to vomit. I begin to brace myself for bad news.

“Ah, yes, our Georgian ring. I’m sorry <my heart drops, I can feel the lump in my throat growing, and I begin to fight the tears that I know are coming> but we removed the ruby and sent it to auction. I still have the setting though.”


Tears immediately start streaming down my cheeks…


Never, Ever give up on your dreams
Believe in yourself
Make a plan
Shoot for the moon if you have too


If someone says, “that’s insane, come down to reality, that’s so far out of reach, be realistic.”

Smile and say, “Watch me.”


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IMG_7216.jpeg

IMG_7210.jpeg

IMG_7218.jpeg

IMG_6686.jpeg

IMG_6698.jpeg

IMG_6710.jpeg

IMG_6770.jpeg

IMG_6778.jpeg

IMG_6792.jpeg

She is an incredible jewel.

She’s not perfect, she has signs of repairs made through the years from owners who refused to give up on her. Yet 250+ years later, she is still just as beautiful as the day she was forged.

She has stood the test of time.



So, without further ado, it is my great honor to introduce to you, Elizabeth:

“Lizzy for every day, My Pearl for Sundays, Goddess Divine but only on *very* special occasions, and when I am completely, and perfectly, and incandescently happy, Mrs Darcy.”

“I will have to tell you: you have bewitched me, body and soul, and I love--I love--I love you. I never wish to be parted from you from this day on.”

Mrs Darcy, I too refuse to give up on you … let’s find you a new gemstone❤️

Oh my, she's a big girl!!! Gorgeous
 
Oh my, she's a big girl!!! Gorgeous

Thank you! I get lost watching all the facets flick on and off…. It’s truly a site to hold. There’s about 4ct + in the tallest high crown old cuts ❤️ … center stone will likely be around 4-6cts depending on the depth.
But I have the setting, so that’s step one.
She needs something truly special in the middle. I’m trying to not rush the search.

Gemstone to come :pray:
 
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You are a really great writer and the details you link to a piece of jewelry (place, history, literature, artists, craftspeople, costuming) are really captivating. You express how many of us think about these antiques, so I appreciate your posts.

May I see a photo of the ring with the ruby in it? I’m curious about its origin, cut, and the crown height.

I’m also curious how you found this 1770 ring. I like to hear about the paths people took to find a special piece. I’m also going to have to research that time to see where they got their jewels and where jewelry was being made. Is your setting French? It might have a poincon precious metal stamp on the shank, though I don’t know when that practice first started.

Because of the very particular measurements you might consider newly cut from old mined material. Or newly cut from newly mined. So looking at gem cutters’ instagrams could give you ideas.

I’m sure she is out there!
 
You are a really great writer and the details you link to a piece of jewelry (place, history, literature, artists, craftspeople, costuming) are really captivating. You express how many of us think about these antiques, so I appreciate your posts.

May I see a photo of the ring with the ruby in it? I’m curious about its origin, cut, and the crown height.

I’m also curious how you found this 1770 ring. I like to hear about the paths people took to find a special piece. I’m also going to have to research that time to see where they got their jewels and where jewelry was being made. Is your setting French? It might have a poincon precious metal stamp on the shank, though I don’t know when that practice first started.

Because of the very particular measurements you might consider newly cut from old mined material. Or newly cut from newly mined. So looking at gem cutters’ instagrams could give you ideas.

I’m sure she is out there!

You are so sweet - thank you!

I love jewelry and history and owning a piece like this, it’s incredibly important to understand what was going on during that time, world events, etc. It is a way to connect with a piece and brings a value to the table that can never be expressed in currency. I don’t think of Lizzy as being “mine” … I am simply her next caretaker, a very small part of her journey ❤️

I would love to find an antique cushion cut gemstone that can be polished to fit…. Or a bigger stone that can be recut in an antique style. I am leaning towards sapphire, something with strength, so I can wear her more often than not, and will last for another 250 years. Definitely a gemstone that was used in jewelry made during the 1770’s is a must, I want to stay true to the piece. I really love the idea of repurposing a gemstone though.

I will never sell her, she will be passed down to someone who has an appreciation for antique jewelry and knows how to take care of her.

How I found her…
2022: I spotted her on IG, Anup of Jogani

After some detective work…
2022: Sothebys
2018: Simon Teakle

I reached out to Simon Teakle to see if he had any history on the ring.

It is an absolutely beautiful ring and we remember it fondly. We do not have a specific provenance for the ring but we believe it was made circa 1770. The ruby is 3.13 cts of Burmese origin with no indications of heat enhancement. Unfortunately, that is all the details I have on it.” - Simon Teakle

At some point over 250 years, she was re-shanked and lost any original markings. She was completely close backed until recently. Anup opened just the ruby portion, the diamonds are still close backed and foiled. The ruby was a very thin pink-red Burma ruby.

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I have a couple Georgian jewelry books coming from the library so maybe that will lead to something. If she was indeed French, she would have been around during the French Revolution, which the required people to surrender their valuables to fund the war. Which means, she was likely hidden during that time. But for now, I’m going to believe she danced at balls with Maria Antionette, had intriguing conversations with Catherine The Great, and sat front row center at Burgtheater to cheer on her friend Beethoven at his first orchestra hall concert in Vienna ❤️
 
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Aww yay!! She is finally here. I know how much you debated getting her - but I am seriously glad you got Flora first. Those of us without diamonds will always yearn for one. And now that you have Flora, feel free to experiment with Lizzie!

Now the real fun begins with shopping for a nice sapphire. Please head over to the CS forum. They are really friendly over there (even though I mostly lurk) HAHAHA.
 
Thank you so much for giving us such detail on your wonderful setting.

I love that Simon Teakle was so generous with info about it.

The ruby from the ring that you posted pictures of is spectacular, THANK YOU for sharing such detail. it looks like highest quality unheated Burma ruby from an old mine, no doubt. It has a very flat table, which was typical of that time period.

I’d like to know what color(s) you are leaning towards so I can keep an eye out. Jogani might be a good place to look, if you’ve got the budget. Or you could look for a center stone in a preowned piece. Gary Roe works with a cutter, maybe he has ideas, and he does restoration and reworking of antique jewelry.

If you want to stick to a red gem typical of that period you could do a spinel. But obv. other gems like blue sapphires, etc. were also used.

These are just ideas, not me voting for one over another stone!

Here’s AI info on spinel. I have an imperfect Burmese spinel that is the same color as Burmese ruby, and spinel comes in almost every color including padparadscha color or “kashmir sapphire blue”. Search for “spinel Georgian” on Instagram for antique examples.

“At the time of 1770, spinel was used in jewelry, but it was often mistaken for and referred to as ruby. The scientific distinction between spinel and ruby wouldn't be clearly established until 1783, when French mineralogist Jean-Baptiste Louis Romé de l'Isle developed a test to differentiate between the two. This led to many gemstones previously thought to be rubies, including some famous ones in royal collections, being later identified as spinels.
One of the most famous examples is the Black Prince's Ruby, set in the British Imperial State Crown, which was, and still often is, mistakenly called a ruby, even though it's a large, deep red spinel. This gem, with a storied history dating back to the 14th century, was treasured by several English and Spanish kings before it was definitively identified as spinel centuries later.
Therefore, in 1770, while spinel was present in jewelry, it was often appreciated under the moniker of "ruby" or "balas ruby". The understanding of it as a distinct and separate gemstone with its own unique properties was still developing within the scientific community. ”
 
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I’d like to know what color(s) you are leaning towards so I can keep an eye out.

I would LOVE it if you kept an eye out for me, thank you!

I’m leaning towards royal blue, maybe a few clicks towards cornflower blue sapphire … I love a velvety, intense/vivid saturation- glowy, similar look to a Kashmir, that stays blue in indoor lighting. I’m ok with heated, more after a beautiful stone.

My dream sapphire would be this one, but it’s a huge 12ct sapphire. Sigh.
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I also really liked Dolly’s Sapphire she had last month… again, huge, but not as huge, lol!
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I would only go ruby if I could somehow afford the original one, which is sadly out of my budget.
 
Aww yay!! She is finally here. I know how much you debated getting her - but I am seriously glad you got Flora first. Those of us without diamonds will always yearn for one. And now that you have Flora, feel free to experiment with Lizzie!

Now the real fun begins with shopping for a nice sapphire. Please head over to the CS forum. They are really friendly over there (even though I mostly lurk) HAHAHA.

Oh I’m over there - just a quiet girl in the corner lol
 
I’m not sure how I missed this, but OH MY GOD!!

This setting, those DIAMONDS! I can almost feel the weight on my hand & it feels beautiful….

I have studied all the gemstone options & my personal vote would be for a rich blue sapphire. I think it would be perfection :kiss2:
 
I’m not sure how I missed this, but OH MY GOD!!

This setting, those DIAMONDS! I can almost feel the weight on my hand & it feels beautiful….

I have studied all the gemstone options & my personal vote would be for a rich blue sapphire. I think it would be perfection :kiss2:

@Ally T I’m so happy you saw this! You have the best taste in antique pieces - it means so much that you love her as much as I do!

Thank you for looking over all the photoshop options… I keep going back to the blue sapphire as well. The pad is gorgeous - I love how it disappears and lets the setting take front stage… but every time my eyes drift back to that velvety rich blue sapphire - it feels like it should have been there all along :kiss2:

I love the saturated, velvety, sleepiness glow in both of these sapphires; almost Kashmir like.
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@Ally T I’m so happy you saw this! You have the best taste in antique pieces - it means so much that you love her as much as I do!

Thank you for looking over all the photoshop options… I keep going back to the blue sapphire as well. The pad is gorgeous - I love how it disappears and lets the setting take front stage… but every time my eyes drift back to that velvety rich blue sapphire - it feels like it should have been there all along :kiss2:

I love the saturated, velvety, sleepiness glow in both of these sapphires; almost Kashmir like.
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That's exactly how I feel about the velvety blue. It may not have the setting take as much center stage but it just looks right to me, like it was always meant to be that way.
 
That's exactly how I feel about the velvety blue. It may not have the setting take as much center stage but it just looks right to me, like it was always meant to be that way.

YESSS! THANK YOU for saying this. I feel like I can truly cement my decision with blue. I’m so glad you got the same feeling! I LOVE your collection, you have such an incredible eye for color and style … this means so much to me. Thank you thank you thank you!!!
 
That setting is so amazing and the history....................!!! I can't wait to see what you end up doing. A sapphire would be gorgeous but a perfect bright green emerald would take my breath away. Of course I'm into emeralds these days so don't listen to me, lol.
 
That setting is so amazing and the history....................!!! I can't wait to see what you end up doing. A sapphire would be gorgeous but a perfect bright green emerald would take my breath away. Of course I'm into emeralds these days so don't listen to me, lol.

Thank you!!! I get the chills every time I’m wearing it and I look down and think… all the women before me
that wore this ring and looked down… I’m one of them now :kiss2:

An emerald would be amazing too! I have this one bookmarked in case I decide to go green - what do you think, is it a good one?

 
A few of you heard a rumor a while back that I was saving for a ruby …


She was in an antique Georgian silver on gold bonnet ring, circa 1770, littered with the most incredible old, old cuts … peruzzi’s, tables, antique cushions, and old old mines, each with skyscraper crowns, forming an almost cobblestone like road protecting a pretty pink-red ruby. A ring that was likely forged when Marie Antoinette was in power in France, Catherine The Great ruled Russia, Georgiana Duchess of Devonshire was the talk of the town, Elizabeth and Mr Darcy’s story was being penned into reality by Jane Austen, and music by Handel, Bach, Mozart, and Beethoven echoed through orchestra halls. Stories of the French Revolution, Napoleonic Wars, and American colonies declaring their independence were painted in ink on the daily courant. Weekend balls filled with elaborate, wide-skirted gowns, powdered wigs and incredible jewels were always something to look forward too.

She was expensive, she was a dream. My dream antique piece. She was the ring I seriously considered buying in place of Flora for a long time. Flora won my heart, but I always felt my mind drifting back to the Georgian ring. So I shot for the moon and started putting in dozens of OT shifts, quietly adding to my savings. Inside, wishing there was anything but that beautiful expensive 3ct no heat burma ruby in the center. If there was an aquamarine or a topaz… she would already be mine. Patients quickly filled my OT schedules, one after another after another…. Each shift a little closer to bringing her home.


Two weeks ago, she disappeared from the site she called home for over three years …


There was a glimmer of hope though… I had seen several of the vendors pieces at auction recently… maybe, just maybe she was heading to an auction house and I might have a chance. I pick up the phone …

1st Ring

2nd Ring … my heart is pounding in my chest. “Don’t cry, if she’s sold, it wasn’t meant to be… just hold it together. You’ll have money to shop for something else beautiful, a bracelet is next on your list anyways…” I tell myself

3rd Ring

Hello?” I hear on the other side. I’m so nervous I feel like I’m going to vomit. I begin to brace myself for bad news.

“Ah, yes, our Georgian ring. I’m sorry <my heart drops, I can feel the lump in my throat growing, and I begin to fight the tears that I know are coming> but we removed the ruby and sent it to auction. I still have the setting though.”


Tears immediately start streaming down my cheeks…


Never, Ever give up on your dreams
Believe in yourself
Make a plan
Shoot for the moon if you have too


If someone says, “that’s insane, come down to reality, that’s so far out of reach, be realistic.”

Smile and say, “Watch me.”


IMG_7214.jpeg

IMG_7216.jpeg

IMG_7210.jpeg

IMG_7218.jpeg

IMG_6686.jpeg

IMG_6698.jpeg

IMG_6710.jpeg

IMG_6770.jpeg

IMG_6778.jpeg

IMG_6792.jpeg

She is an incredible jewel.

She’s not perfect, she has signs of repairs made through the years from owners who refused to give up on her. Yet 250+ years later, she is still just as beautiful as the day she was forged.

She has stood the test of time.



So, without further ado, it is my great honor to introduce to you, Elizabeth:

“Lizzy for every day, My Pearl for Sundays, Goddess Divine but only on *very* special occasions, and when I am completely, and perfectly, and incandescently happy, Mrs Darcy.”

“I will have to tell you: you have bewitched me, body and soul, and I love--I love--I love you. I never wish to be parted from you from this day on.”

Mrs Darcy, I too refuse to give up on you … let’s find you a new gemstone❤️

That setting is amazing without a stone. Anything you choose to be lucky enough to be surrounded by those old cuts will be exceptional.
 
Gah-how did I miss this! So glad she's on your finger-what a saga!

And that better be Colin Firth's Mr. Darcy :lol:
 
Gah-how did I miss this! So glad she's on your finger-what a saga!

And that better be Colin Firth's Mr. Darcy :lol:

Thank you!!! I debated forever between the antique forum and the show me the bling forum, I’m glad everyone is finding it over here, lol!

It still feels so surreal that she’s mine. Her center stone is out there … just waiting for one of us to find her … I feel a little bit like I’m16 again and shopping at TJ Maxx flipping through their inventory daily … waiting for a cool pair of Girbaud jeans to show up :lol:
 
I love your stories, and I get the same feeling thinking about how many owners she must have had through all those years, and how special it is that they preserved her. I have to say I loved her with a ruby, but she may enjoy a change after all these years!
 
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