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Stone-cold11: Thanks for your feedback and the WF link. We did look at that but have decided to hold out a little longer. When we first started on our E-ring search at a B&M store, I can definitely tell the difference between a D and F but not a D and E. Since I''m color sensitive, we decided on E color and since then, he is not willing to consider anything lower (including clarity). He is a sweetheart and wants to get what I initially hope for and not get something else due to a lack of better choice (although I am willing to look at F & SI1 now). He''s definitely way more patient than me
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WoW! GS, maybe you should join AGS/GIA as a color grader? :P

Btw, why did you reject this round? http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/5015/

Lack of geometrical sym?
 
I could tell the color from the side and when the stone is faced down... but face up ... It took me awhile to see the difference. It's probably becos the F is closer to G... maybe.

You brought up a good point on this GOG stone! I've been staring at it for awhile and cannot figure out why it's only Very Good for Symmetry.
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Do you know why? Thanks!!

We didn't consider this as my dear dear FI really needs a mind clean stone :) and really don't mind the wait. Although I'm the person wearing it, I also want him to feel good about the purchase since he is paying for it.
 
I think you should check out that stone with GOG. From the Helium scan report that GOG did, it looks like an AGS ideal symmetry. The data posted there is just what the GIA report says. So I am thinking it was a GIA mistake.
 
The heart pic is certainly not what we'd call a super duper louper, though I bet it would still be a very pretty stone. If you need "mind clean" hearts though, that one wouldn't be it.

That GOG stone looks very nice, I would also suggest calling and talking to Jon about it. He can give you the skinny on all the details.
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And you said you were willing to look at/consider F SI1, but I don't know if you meant you really could, or would if SO would consider it. At any rate, here is another possible consideration, with a compromise for both sides.

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/4949/
 
Thanks Ellen & Cold-stone11 for your help.

There are some new stones on GOG site that seemed to within my criteria and I''m waiting for GoG to upload the rest of the information. I''ve also requested them to provide a video as well as the Isee2 reports so that we can decide on the stone since we can''t see it in person.

Do you think if Jon would step in to provide his professional advice on the stone on which is of the best deal/quality? I understand that all 3 looks good but is hoping for a little help on the decision part.

Here are the 3 GOG options (all scored under HCA 2) that I''m looking at now:

Stone 1: 1.30 D / VS2
Stone 2: 1.31 E / VS2
Stone 3: 1.30 E / VS2

Appreciate your advice!

Thanks!
 
Date: 10/8/2008 4:57:23 PM
Author: GoodSoul
Thanks Ellen & Cold-stone11 for your help.

There are some new stones on GOG site that seemed to within my criteria and I'm waiting for GoG to upload the rest of the information. I've also requested them to provide a video as well as the Isee2 reports so that we can decide on the stone since we can't see it in person.

Do you think if Jon would step in to provide his professional advice on the stone on which is of the best deal/quality? I understand that all 3 looks good but is hoping for a little help on the decision part.

Here are the 3 GOG options (all scored under HCA 2) that I'm looking at now:


Stone 1: 1.30 D / VS2
Stone 2: 1.31 E / VS2
Stone 3: 1.30 E / VS2

Appreciate your advice!


Thanks!

There is still an Isee2 stone?

Out of the three stones, I prefer stone 3's ASET and Hearts pattern, so I would probably choose that although I probably wouldn't be able to notice any difference in real life... :P

I think you could ask Jon for an opinion. And he would probably make a video for comparison for you judging from what help he has given to past customers. Good Luck. :) If you got the video, tell us and we will try and give some more non-professional advice. :P

EDT:
Checking the HCA, looks like stone 3 might be in the older person ring stone range, 1 and 2 are more the younger person ring stone range. Just some info for your considerations.
 
Thanks Stone-cold11!

I just spoke with Jon and asked his opinion about the stones. We were pinning for Stone 2 (1.31 E VS2) but after we saw the images (some of the stuff was under the table), we leaned towards the Stone 1 (1.30 D VS2). Jon confirmed that for a more mind clean stone when it comes to clarity, the D is a better VS2. Stone 3 was ruled out for now as my FI doesn't like the Fluorescence (did I mention that he is more picky than me?
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While none of the stones are from Isee2, Jon have kindly ran the Stone 1 through the Isee2 while we were on the phone and it scored 9.7! GOG also said that it scored all "very high" for the Brilliantscope/GEMEX report.
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After the conversation, it sealed the deal for us. My FI had reserved Stone 1 for now. Hope we made a good choice!!!

We didn't pursue the video as we are not sure if we can tell the difference... should we still impose on GOG to do the videos?

I am quite a happy woman for now!! Thanks!!

ETA: Jon is so nice on the phone. I was totally sold on his "make me feel good" speech that we had to reserve it before we hear out what you guys have to say. I still welcome any comments since we have a few days before we wire the money. TIA!!
 
Hahah, no prob, but your FI is really picky... faint Blue??? you will not see it, even MB is difficult to observe in daily life, unless you are in a dark room with only UV lighting... :P

Anyway, since you already pick out your stone, no point bothering Jon, although I would have like to see some more eye candy comparisons... :P
 
GS, you picked a great stone!! Yay!
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I will have to agree, in case you would want to save the money if #3 didn''t have the faint flo, you''d never know it. Mine has faint flo, and there is no way I would have ever known if it hadn''t been on the grading report. So just an fyi.
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If you decided to let that one be in the running, I know Jon would do a video for you comparing, but if it''s not, there''s not really any reason to videotape it. And it won''t matter anyway, that''s a beautiful stone.
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Thanks again Stone-Cold11 and Ellen for your valuable feedback & help!! I am glad that you think that either the Stone 1 or 3 will work. I did check with my FI again for the one with faint flo.. he's pretty set on the D. (YES.. he is super picky on this ering and thank goodness not on everything else!!
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Can I impose on you guys to comment about the D's V2 GIA plot? While from the GOG pictures, it looks nice (nothing much under the table), it seemed to have a variety of inclusions from the GIA plot. Is there anything that I should worry about? By the way, the 60%/80% LGF.. does this mean that there's smaller pin flash vs. if it's 50%/75% LGF? I am not nitpicking.. just trying to visualize the stone since I saw Jon's video on the various LGF%.
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TIA!

Now.. I've to think about the setting. I'm leaning towards Leon's work. Hmmm.....

1.30 D VS3 GIA Report.jpg
 
Please don''t discount a killer stone just cause of the fluo. You are just not going to be able to see it, and even if you do (strong blue etc) it''s a POSITIVE not a negative dispite what your bf has been told. Fluro gets such a bad rap and people are scared of it and it''s just crazy!

And don''t feel bad for not wanting to drop to a F, you don''t have to justify it. I wasn''t going to have an E colour stone, I had my heart set on a D and that was it. I know I can''t tell the difference between D and E, but it''s a mind clean issue, and it''s more important to some people than others understand.

Either way, you have some fabulous choices, can''t wait to see pics!
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Date: 10/8/2008 9:18:16 PM
Author: GoodSoul
Thanks again Stone-Cold11 and Ellen for your valuable feedback & help!! I am glad that you think that either the Stone 1 or 3 will work. I did check with my FI again for the one with faint flo.. he''s pretty set on the D. (YES.. he is super picky on this ering and thank goodness not on everything else!!
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Can I impose on you guys to comment about the D''s V2 GIA plot? While from the GOG pictures, it looks nice (nothing much under the table), it seemed to have a variety of inclusions from the GIA plot. Is there anything that I should worry about? By the way, the 60%/80% LGF.. does this mean that there''s smaller pin flash vs. if it''s 50%/75% LGF? I am not nitpicking.. just trying to visualize the stone since I saw Jon''s video on the various LGF%.
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TIA!

Now.. I''ve to think about the setting. I''m leaning towards Leon''s work. Hmmm.....
No. At VS2, the inclusions are pretty tiny. But if you really want to know, ask Jon about it. One can never judge a stone by plot/pictures, as they just aren''t close to being truly representitive. They have to have a real set of eyeballs looking at them.
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Looking at the Helium report, your LGF are actually at 78.5. That''s a nice area, it should have both pin flash and some bolder flash. I think you''ll really like this stone.

And you''re welcome!
 
As the others have already said, VS2 should not be a problem, the only thing I would probably worry about is the indented natural, not sure where it is... :P If it is a the girdle, might be a problem during setting but then Jon would probably have picked that out if it is. So should not be a problem. :p

LGF also looks fine to me. :P

Good to go? :P
 
honey22: I do agree on the flo part as I am totally fine with faint/medium flo. As far as I''m concerned, if the D is not an inferior stone to the E, I''m happy that he went with the icy D, which I''m sure you understand
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Thanks for making feel alright to hope for a better color.. it all stemmed from my graduation present from my parents LONG TIME ago. The greedy me picked out a nice size princess cut ear-rings within the budget given.. and under those light, it looks great (no color grading was provided as it''s a small size pair). However, once I took it home.. it was so yellow looking that it took me awhile to get over it. Anyhow.. I digressed. Thanks for your comforting words!

Ellen: Thanks again!! It so great to hear that the stone will have both pin and bolder flash as that''s what I''m hoping for!!! AWESOME!! I will definitely ask Jon/Sarah to eyeball it and not let the GIA plot bother me. Thanks!!

Stone-cold11: I was also looking for the indented natural and wasn''t sure of the location. I will definitely have to get GOG to advise on this. Thanks! Yes.. it''s pretty much a done deal!


Thanks for all your input as it really helped to put my mind at ease on this big purchase! Can''t wait to see it in person!
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