You opinions please.

[Booper717]

Do you guys/gals thing the inclusion towards the center of this diamond wld be visable to the naked eye?

The vendor reassures me it is not, while it is a carbon inclusion they told me it is white/gray in color and blends in with the cut/facets of the diamond. What do you all think? It is graded Sl1

Let me try to post a pic, if it works the diamond in the pic is X10:

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 7/19/2008 12:12:53 PM
Author:Booper717
Do you guys/gals thing the inclusion towards the center of this diamond wld be visable to the naked eye?

The vendor reassures me it is not, while it is a carbon inclusion they told me it is white/gray in color and blends in with the cut/facets of the diamond. What do you all think? It is graded Sl1

Let me try to post a pic, if it works the diamond in the pic is X10:

It is very hard to tell, the matter of '' eyecleanliness'' can be subject to so many variables...Make sure the vendor knows your standards, if you don''t want to see anything from any angle at close scrutiny, make sure they understand that, then they can advise you whether this diamond will suit you or not. I would imagine this inclusion would not be visible, or easily visible, but the only one way you can tell for sure, is to have another chat with the vendor, as none of us can say with any accuracy as we haven''t actually seen the diamond.

 

[sparxs111]

who is the vendor. Are you set on this stone? we can always try to help you find another stone if this is of concern to you. Make sure to definitley as suggested above, give YOUR definitiion of eye clean, as then they will be able to answer to your specifications.

 

[Booper717]

Thanks for the responses! I am really leaning towards this stone, it''s pretty much everything my SO and I are looking for, and well with in our price range.

The vendor (excel diamonds) told me that he looked threw 10-11 diamonds within the specs I gave him and he truely believes this one is the most beautiful of them (in his opinion). Both Judah & Barry assured me this is eye clean, and we know each others diffinations of it. I was also told this diamond faces us as a VS. Now, I do trust their opinions on this stone, I''m just driving myself a little crazy, and wanted some other opinions.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 7/19/2008 3:46:19 PM
Author: Booper717
Thanks for the responses! I am really leaning towards this stone, it''s pretty much everything my SO and I are looking for, and well with in our price range.

The vendor (excel diamonds) told me that he looked threw 10-11 diamonds within the specs I gave him and he truely believes this one is the most beautiful of them (in his opinion). Both Judah & Barry assured me this is eye clean, and we know each others diffinations of it. I was also told this diamond faces us as a VS. Now, I do trust their opinions on this stone, I''m just driving myself a little crazy, and wanted some other opinions.

I am sure they will have described the diamond as accurately as they can and it looks like a beautiful stone!

 

[Booper717]

Thank you Lorelei. I appricate others views on this matter!

 

[Ellen]

Date: 7/19/2008 3:46:19 PM
Author: Booper717
Thanks for the responses! I am really leaning towards this stone, it''s pretty much everything my SO and I are looking for, and well with in our price range.

The vendor (excel diamonds) told me that he looked threw 10-11 diamonds within the specs I gave him and he truely believes this one is the most beautiful of them (in his opinion). Both Judah & Barry assured me this is eye clean, and we know each others diffinations of it. I was also told this diamond faces us as a VS. Now, I do trust their opinions on this stone, I''m just driving myself a little crazy, and wanted some other opinions.

It sounds as if you have found your stone!

 

[Tuckins1]

I''m not really sure that I can see it, and you told me exactly where to look! It looks like a beautiful stone!!

 

[Booper717]

Thank you for the responses! Still not 100% percent sure, I''m seeing more pics today!

 

[dockman3]

There is no way that''s visible to the naked eye. Its pretty small at 10x, so unless you are nearsighted and looking at it within 2 inches, you won''t see it. And even then you probably won''t see it. I''d say go for it, once you look at these other pics. Post them so we can look too, but it looks wonderful to me!

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 7/21/2008 10:37:19 AM
Author: dockman3
There is no way that's visible to the naked eye. Its pretty small at 10x, so unless you are nearsighted and looking at it within 2 inches, you won't see it. And even then you probably won't see it. I'd say go for it, once you look at these other pics. Post them so we can look too, but it looks wonderful to me!

I hope you don't mind me pointing this out DM, but we need to be careful about stating opinions as fact such as the above when we haven't actually seen the diamond. There are just too many variables concerning whether a diamond is eyeclean or not - a diamond could be eyeclean to one viewer and not to another. I just wanted to mention this, as although there is an excellent chance this inclusion may not be eye visible going by the info we have, it is always best to take a cautious approach, in case the diamond is not eyeclean to that particular poster's standards.

 

[dockman3]

Date: 7/21/2008 10:48:59 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 7/21/2008 10:37:19 AM

Author: dockman3

There is no way that''s visible to the naked eye. Its pretty small at 10x, so unless you are nearsighted and looking at it within 2 inches, you won''t see it. And even then you probably won''t see it. I''d say go for it, once you look at these other pics. Post them so we can look too, but it looks wonderful to me!

I hope you don''t mind me pointing this out DM, but we need to be careful about stating opinions as fact such as the above when we haven''t actually seen the diamond. There are just too many variables concerning whether a diamond is eyeclean or not - a diamond could be eyeclean to one viewer and not to another. I just wanted to mention this, as although there is an excellent chance this inclusion may not be eye visible going by the info we have, it is always best to take a cautious approach, in case the diamond is not eyeclean to that particular poster''s standards.

Sorry about that. Thanks Lorelei for catching that. I can tend to get caught up and not be careful about what I say. I should have said "there is a very small chance, IMO, that you will be able to see it".

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 7/21/2008 10:58:38 AM
Author: dockman3

Date: 7/21/2008 10:48:59 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 7/21/2008 10:37:19 AM

Author: dockman3

There is no way that''s visible to the naked eye. Its pretty small at 10x, so unless you are nearsighted and looking at it within 2 inches, you won''t see it. And even then you probably won''t see it. I''d say go for it, once you look at these other pics. Post them so we can look too, but it looks wonderful to me!

I hope you don''t mind me pointing this out DM, but we need to be careful about stating opinions as fact such as the above when we haven''t actually seen the diamond. There are just too many variables concerning whether a diamond is eyeclean or not - a diamond could be eyeclean to one viewer and not to another. I just wanted to mention this, as although there is an excellent chance this inclusion may not be eye visible going by the info we have, it is always best to take a cautious approach, in case the diamond is not eyeclean to that particular poster''s standards.

Sorry about that. Thanks Lorelei for catching that. I can tend to get caught up and not be careful about what I say. I should have said ''there is a very small chance, IMO, that you will be able to see it''.

No worries DM!

 

[Indira-London]

Date: 7/21/2008 10:48:59 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 7/21/2008 10:37:19 AM
Author: dockman3
There is no way that''s visible to the naked eye. Its pretty small at 10x, so unless you are nearsighted and looking at it within 2 inches, you won''t see it. And even then you probably won''t see it. I''d say go for it, once you look at these other pics. Post them so we can look too, but it looks wonderful to me!

I hope you don''t mind me pointing this out DM, but we need to be careful about stating opinions as fact such as the above when we haven''t actually seen the diamond. There are just too many variables concerning whether a diamond is eyeclean or not - a diamond could be eyeclean to one viewer and not to another. I just wanted to mention this, as although there is an excellent chance this inclusion may not be eye visible going by the info we have, it is always best to take a cautious approach, in case the diamond is not eyeclean to that particular poster''s standards.

That is a good point Lorelei.
Most of my clients come to see us in person to choose their diamond so I get to meet them and see how different consumers regard "eyeclean". Every year I get a small proportion of clients that have what I call super vision where they can see inclusions that most of us would regard as eyeclean in SI1-VS2 range.

Also, some inclusions may not be visible from the top but could be more visible from the side to such individuals.

Hence, I would say it definitely the right approach not to generalise too much as eyecleanness like beauty really is in the eye of the beholder!

 

[Booper717]

Hi everyone!


As always, I appricate your opinions and comments! I talked to my vendor about going up a clarity grade and he explained to me that while he has no problem with that he, once again, reassured me that this diamond will face up 100% eye clean, and by no means would any VS2 face up any cleaner. I''m still waiting on seeing the other pics... for now I do have another picture of the stone I will post to show those who are interested! It really does seem like a great stone. It''s graded by AGS as a .78 E Sl1 IDEAL cut

I realize that you all can''t possibly know if it would be eye clean witout actually examining the stone yourselves, I simply wanted your thoughts and opinions, seeing as no one around me has any interest in diamonds or knows anything about them, I have noone to show the photos to, except of course, my SO who does not think the inclusion will be visable, and thinks I''m nuts!!!!!

(but he dosnt know much either!)

So really, all thoughts are appricated, but I do know there is only one way to know for sure!!

Thank you all!!!

 

[Lorelei]

Thanks Indira!

Booper, as the vendor has reassured you that this diamond should be fine for you, then thats great! The IS image looks excellent!

 

[Booper717]

Thanks Lorelei! I know I''m being anal. They have reassured me a dozen and a half times! I''ve just never had to pick out an SI1 stone, and it''s a big purchase for my SO and it''s hard not to be able to see it first hand before you buy! But I am feeling better, talking to you all settles my nerves!

I will post the other pics once I recieve them!

 

[Ellen]

Date: 7/21/2008 11:04:42 AM
Author: Lorelei
Thanks Indira!

Booper, as the vendor has reassured you that this diamond should be fine for you, then thats great! The IS image looks excellent!

Ditto!!

And remember, these photos are blown up big time. This is a better representation of what you are discussing here.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 7/21/2008 11:09:02 AM
Author: Booper717
Thanks Lorelei! I know I''m being anal. They have reassured me a dozen and a half times! I''ve just never had to pick out an SI1 stone, and it''s a big purchase for my SO and it''s hard not to be able to see it first hand before you buy! But I am feeling better, talking to you all settles my nerves!

I will post the other pics once I recieve them!

LOL!!! No worries Boop, I think the vendors would rather we were that way, than not making our preferences and expectations clear. It benefits no one to have diamonds whizzing back and forth because client and vendor were not on the same page concerning things like '' eyecleanliness'' etc. SI can be where things can get a little more tricky as they are not created equal, so you are absolutely right in asking as many questions possible before you pull the trigger!

 

[Booper717]

Ellen, so funny you did that! You are exactly right! I had the first photo I posted here opened in my photo editing program and shrunk it down 10 times and it looked just like your image, then I compared it to a diamond size chart I have where my SO had drawn the size of the stone according the the mm measurements and realize it was almost exactly the same size... that''s about the time I realized how silly I truely was being, lol.

You all make me feel MUCH better

 

[Ellen]

Date: 7/21/2008 11:15:01 AM
Author: Booper717
Ellen, so funny you did that! You are exactly right! I had the first photo I posted here opened in my photo editing program and shrunk it down 10 times and it looked just like your image, then I compared it to a diamond size chart I have where my SO had drawn the size of the stone according the the mm measurements and realize it was almost exactly the same size... that''s about the time I realized how silly I truely was being, lol.

You all make me feel MUCH better

Yay!!

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 7/21/2008 11:15:01 AM
Author: Booper717
Ellen, so funny you did that! You are exactly right! I had the first photo I posted here opened in my photo editing program and shrunk it down 10 times and it looked just like your image, then I compared it to a diamond size chart I have where my SO had drawn the size of the stone according the the mm measurements and realize it was almost exactly the same size... that''s about the time I realized how silly I truely was being, lol.

You all make me feel MUCH better

You are NOT being silly, but a cautious and informed shopper!

 

[Booper717]

Lorelei, I agree. I think it is best that everyone is on the same page! I just felt bad asking over and over if it was eye clean, but Barry & Judah don''t seem to mind, they just tell me over and over again it is, but each time in a slightly diffrent manner so I''m sure all angles wich I''m concerned about are being covered my our definations of "eye clean"! I just try to tell myself if anyone has a problem with my 100''s of questions then I could easily take my business else where, but lucky for me Excel Diamonds has been so patient and poliet!!!

I thought that I''d post a pic of the setting my SO picked out & I LOVE! The only concern I have are the prongs, however I did a search and found a PSer who has the same setting with just about the same size stone as I will have and I think it looks lovely!!


How do you all think it will look set with a diamond around .78?

The Vatche Swan:

 

[Ellen]

That''s a beautiful setting!! I think your stone will look lovely in it.

SO did a very good job!

 

[Lorelei]

No worries Boops! I would be the same way and want plenty of reassurance if it was me!

The setting is gorgeous and that lovely diamond will look superb in it - YUM!!

 

[Booper717]

Thanks for the compliments on the setting!!

As promised, here are some more pics from the vendor. I can slightly see the primary inclusion, but my SO STRONGLY feels that we wonl''t be able to see it IRL, since its very small even in these magnifyed pics.


What do you all think?

 

[Booper717]

Here''s another:

 

[Lorelei]

I think it is a gorgeous diamond Boops!

 

[Ellen]

Date: 7/21/2008 9:38:23 PM
Author: Booper717
Thanks for the compliments on the setting!!

As promised, here are some more pics from the vendor. I can slightly see the primary inclusion, but my SO STRONGLY feels that we wonl''t be able to see it IRL, since its very small even in these magnifyed pics.


What do you all think?

I think your SO is right.

And I agree with Lorelei, it looks gorgeous!

 

[Booper717]

Thanks Ladies! I think it''s pretty too, it''s really something to see images like that of the the stone... kinda makes me fall in LOVE

Well, anyways, today is the day. We have to make a decission on the stone. I''m a lil nervous still, but I love having your opinions to support my/our decission!

It''s above par with everything we (SO & I) where looking at It''s higher in color, cut better, and even slightly larger in caret size than we expected to be getting, the only thing holding us (well... me) back is that tiny little spot........ I understand these images are so magnified, it''s just hard to put that in perspective.


Should I go for it?