WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE A RESPONSE....ANYONE???

[ayushkhatri]

I bought this 1.81 H VS1 HCA 1.8 (LIGHT RETURN VG , FIRE AND SCINT EX, SPREAD VG)

https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamonds/view/Round/GIA-Certified-1,81-Carat-H-Color-VS1-Clarity-Diamond-AS2QGQ

PRICE $14,600

TRIPLE EX

MEASUREMENTS: 7.75MM X 7.81 X 4.82 MM

FAINT BLUE FLOURESCENCE

TABLE 58% ; DEPTH 62%

CROWN ANGLE 35 ; PAVILION ANGLE 40.8

CROWN HEIGHT 15%

GIRDLE: MED TO SL THK

also it says in additional comments on GIA report: additional clouds not shown ..

I HAVEN'T SEEN THE STONE IN PERSON AS YET BUT LOOKS GOOD FROM IMAGES AND SARINE LIGHT REPORT....THOUGHTS ?? DID I GET A GOOD DEAL ?

additional super zoomed in image attached

 

[enbcfsobe]

You are unlikely to get a response from the prosumers by YELLING in your title. The HCA looks good. I think it might be hiding a TINY bit of weight at that depth but I'm not an expert on that. I'm not crazy about the videos, but I don't know if that's the diamond or the video itself. It is GIA graded VS1, so the inclusions should not be visible to the naked eye. One thing that concerns me about the video is that i can easily see an inclusion. Granted this is pretty high magnification, but I would be concerned that the stone was set/unset or otherwise handled at some point (though it was only certed in September 2014) and that an additional feather occurred. I'd just want to make sure that wasn't visible in real life. I would also want to have an independent appraiser verify that the stone I received is the stone in the cert. I don't know anything about this vendor, and I'm not suggesting they would do anything untoward, but this is a big purchase and you want to make sure you are receiving exactly what you've paid for. You'll want the apprasial for insurance purposes anyway. Please see the discussions about what constitutes an INDEPENDENT appraisal (i.e. not your local jeweler or the seller).

The price seems good -- doing a search for similar stones they are in the 15000+ range. But some of those are also less deep, which may account for the price difference, or it may be the flourescence. I don't know how much difference the flour makes at this color/size -- I know sometimes flour can cause haziness or sleepiness, but I think that is usually at strong levels. I'd look out for that too (I would have asked the vendor prior to purchase, but you should search for some examples of what to look for, I'm sure there's old threads on this).

You will have to take a look at it for yourself and see if you love it. Hopefully you have a good return policy (otherwise not much use in asking us for input post-purchase). Or if you want the more expert folks to chime in, maybe ask the mods to edit your title to remove all caps. Good luck!

 

[Diamondbug]

The numbers look great and at VS1, it will be eye clean. Can you get an IS? I am not familiar with the vendor and their photo/video setup but it looks like the photo and video were taken at an angle. I say it is a good buy from the info you have on hand, next step is too have it shipped to you so you can decide if you love it.

 

[JulieN]

It looks like the girdle has weak performance. You may get more responses if you remove the vendor link in your post.

If I remember correctly, the first stone you bought was fine?

 

[ayushkhatri]

It looks like the girdle has weak performance. You may get more responses if you remove the vendor link in your post.

If I remember correctly, the first stone you bought was fine?

thanks for your response. what exactly do you mean when you say the girdle has weak performance ? i didnt buy another stone...i was debating between a few and thought this would be the one based on price and light return

 

[ayushkhatri]

You are unlikely to get a response from the prosumers by YELLING in your title. The HCA looks good. I think it might be hiding a TINY bit of weight at that depth but I'm not an expert on that. I'm not crazy about the videos, but I don't know if that's the diamond or the video itself. It is GIA graded VS1, so the inclusions should not be visible to the naked eye. One thing that concerns me about the video is that i can easily see an inclusion. Granted this is pretty high magnification, but I would be concerned that the stone was set/unset or otherwise handled at some point (though it was only certed in September 2014) and that an additional feather occurred. I'd just want to make sure that wasn't visible in real life. I would also want to have an independent appraiser verify that the stone I received is the stone in the cert. I don't know anything about this vendor, and I'm not suggesting they would do anything untoward, but this is a big purchase and you want to make sure you are receiving exactly what you've paid for. You'll want the apprasial for insurance purposes anyway. Please see the discussions about what constitutes an INDEPENDENT appraisal (i.e. not your local jeweler or the seller).

The price seems good -- doing a search for similar stones they are in the 15000+ range. But some of those are also less deep, which may account for the price difference, or it may be the flourescence. I don't know how much difference the flour makes at this color/size -- I know sometimes flour can cause haziness or sleepiness, but I think that is usually at strong levels. I'd look out for that too (I would have asked the vendor prior to purchase, but you should search for some examples of what to look for, I'm sure there's old threads on this).

You will have to take a look at it for yourself and see if you love it. Hopefully you have a good return policy (otherwise not much use in asking us for input post-purchase). Or if you want the more expert folks to chime in, maybe ask the mods to edit your title to remove all caps. Good luck!

Thank you so much for your reply and comments. Sorry I was not yelling. I used the CAPS to get some attention because my last 2 same questions went unanswered

Anyways, I appreciate your comments so thank you for that. At Faint fl the stone according to the supplier is not milky or hazy and the vendor has a 30 day return policy from when the stone arrives to me (i will be seeing it in their office before I send out the wire payment ..it is reserved for me ).

Can you explain a little more about what your thoughts are on the inclusion ...why do you think it has been set before and now has a feather ? (i dont see one from the plot or picture ). table is clean and th einclusions off on the side could be covered by a prong . it is definitely eye clean.

Also, what do you mean by "I think it might be hiding a TINY bit of weight at that depth "...

Thanks so much and really appreciate your comments.

Cheers

 

[heididdl]

On paper it looks perfect. I am sure you werent yelling just wanted a quick response. I didn't see any inclusion and at VS level it will not be seen by the naked one.

 

[enbcfsobe]

Anyways, I appreciate your comments so thank you for that. At Faint fl the stone according to the supplier is not milky or hazy and the vendor has a 30 day return policy from when the stone arrives to me (i will be seeing it in their office before I send out the wire payment ..it is reserved for me ).

make sure you see the stone outdoors

Can you explain a little more about what your thoughts are on the inclusion ...why do you think it has been set before and now has a feather ? (i dont see one from the plot or picture ). table is clean and th einclusions off on the side could be covered by a prong . it is definitely eye clean.

you asked for feedback. i was simply surprised to see that obvious of an inclusion in a VS1 graded stone. i am not an expert, but i thought that VS1 is not based on the location of the inclusion, but on whether it is visible with/without magnification. i do not think it was set. i am simply explaining what my reaction was and the concerns i would have. i would not expect to be able to see an inclusion that way in a VS1 stone, so I would start thinking about whether something changed about the clarity of the stone since it was graded. this is not a common occurrence as far as i know (other than with really old stones) but that is what came to mind for me. if i was paying for VS1 clarity/peace of mind, i'd want to make darn sure i was getting what i paid for. having to hide eye visible inclusions with prongs is not something i would think you should need to worry about with a VS1 stone.

Also, what do you mean by "I think it might be hiding a TINY bit of weight at that depth "...

62% is slightly deeper than i'd like. if i was paying the premium for a 1.5+ ct stone I'd want every mm of that weight to be visible face up (without compromising performance of course). this stone faces up a smidge smaller than similar ct weight stones. it is not a dramatic difference (tenths/hundreths of millimiters). it looked to me like that was due to the overall depth, but as Julie points out the thickness of the girdle may also be an issue.

overall it seems priced appropriately (slightly less than stones with no flour that face up bigger). it is for you to decide if (a) you love the stone in person and (b) it is the right balance of cost/size/clarity/color/cut for you. if I was spending that much on a stone and it was my max budget, I would prob look for an eyeclean SI1 in a branded ideal cut or one that faced up closer to the ideal diameter for the weight. but that is my personal take -- each of us has different preferences and priorities. best of luck!

 

[ayushkhatri]

@enbcfsobe thank you so much for the detailed explanation. It really means a lot and I appreciate your thoughts. Thanks again !! This is my max budget and yes I am completely fine going for an eye clean SI1 but just at that weight I wasnt able to find anything that really matched up except for maybe this 1.7 F SI1 (smaller in weight yes but also $1500 cheaper. https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamonds/view/R170-2Z9A4C


@heididdl Thank you for your comments as well! Much appreciated

Will keep you guys posted on when I see the stone. Really appreciate the quick responses and again to clairfy, I wasn't yelling. Just hoped for a quick response

Cheers

 

[ayushkhatri]

Hi

I finally saw the stone TWO times...once at night in their office and yesterday during the day in natural light (but in their office since it has multiple windows allowing light in )....its good but 2 things are really bothering me...

(1) under certain white light the H looks more like an I and I can see a little yellow tinge. But in other lights its white face up. So lets call it an H- color. clarity wise the stone is awesome.

(2) when I look straight face up at the table, I see a lot of contrast in the table area (for example, its much blacker .... ) I compared this stone with a NEAR identical 1.82 H VS2 with NO flourescence (mine has faint) and that stone (price $1000 more and already sold :/) is whiter face up but also I can see straight at the culet thru the table so its MUCH clearer and less contrasty (black shadows) than my stone. Is this a big deal or am I just overthinking?

Other than the above, the stone is great. excellent sparkle. nice size...Im just concerned about the color and the shadowy thing that I mention in (2) above.

Please provide your expert thoughts if u dont mind. I'd really appreciate it.

 

[JulieN]

In the picture, the girdle is grayish from 9-3 o'clock. It is also grayish from 4-6 but it seems to be slightly less gray. I believe this is mostly something seen only in photos, and usually not a problem in person.