Will You Watch the Democratic National Convention?

[AGBF]

Date: 8/28/2008 12:37:06 AM

Author: diamondfan

I proposed that I be df and Dancing Fire be DF as it got ultra confusing.

Or I could be Dfan and he could be Dfire, just to make things a bit more clear?

The DF has driven me crazy for a while now. How about a contest or a poll to decide on the better pair of nicknames? I like the Dfan and Dfire, myself, but Americans cannot abbreviate enough. I am afraid that people will want to abbreviate even those two nicknames! Since this is a threadjack, should I start a new thread?

Deb

 

[Dancing Fire]

Date: 8/27/2008 12:58:31 PM
Author: IndyGirl22

I don''t understand how you can praise Hilllary''s speech in one post but then call her campaign awful in the next? Planning to challenge a sitting president may not be a good strategy but it is the only one she looks to have if Obama wins. I think she will make a run for President regardless of who gets elected. If Obama''s promsies fade to dust she has an excellent chance IMHO. I think she did a great job of setting herself up for the next four years. I am not part of the Clinton campaign so I can''t tell you what their strategies are, but I doubt they plan to just roll over & die if Obama gets elected.

agree 100%

Hillary is thinking....what''s good for Hillary in 2012. i don''t think she wants Obama to win in Nov.

 

[Dancing Fire]

Date: 8/28/2008 9:16:29 AM
Author: HollyS
Well, I''ll give the Dems props: they look good, they sound good. Republicans may look stodgy by comparison next week. But are they cardboard cutouts, or the real deal?

You can dress it up, put lipstick on it, parade it around the arena, and it''s still just a first prize hog at the county fair. Americans have a way of knowing the difference. That''s why in my lifetime (1959-present) there have been more Republican presidents, with the majority of them serving two terms. There has been one Democrat president to serve more than one term in that time frame -- Clinton.

Do I think Republicans have all the answers? Well, certainly, after the last eight years, I''d give a resounding NO. But I would like to see (in the White House) some gravitas and experience, even if it''s coming from an old fart, than loose cannon innocence/inexperience. As ugly as things are in the world at large today, cute won''t cut it.

What we need, ladies and gentlemen, is an actual, by God, candidate with the balls and brains to carry us forward. And frankly, come November, whatever happens, we will not get what we need.

Ronald Reagan was the only President that made me weep

when i heard the news that he had pass away and again

when i watch his funeral on TV.

 

[HollyS]

Date: 8/28/2008 7:47:14 PM
Author: Dancing Fire

Date: 8/28/2008 9:16:29 AM
Author: HollyS
Well, I''ll give the Dems props: they look good, they sound good. Republicans may look stodgy by comparison next week. But are they cardboard cutouts, or the real deal?

You can dress it up, put lipstick on it, parade it around the arena, and it''s still just a first prize hog at the county fair. Americans have a way of knowing the difference. That''s why in my lifetime (1959-present) there have been more Republican presidents, with the majority of them serving two terms. There has been one Democrat president to serve more than one term in that time frame -- Clinton.

Do I think Republicans have all the answers? Well, certainly, after the last eight years, I''d give a resounding NO. But I would like to see (in the White House) some gravitas and experience, even if it''s coming from an old fart, than loose cannon innocence/inexperience. As ugly as things are in the world at large today, cute won''t cut it.

What we need, ladies and gentlemen, is an actual, by God, candidate with the balls and brains to carry us forward. And frankly, come November, whatever happens, we will not get what we need.

Ronald Reagan was the only President that made me weep

when i heard the news that he had pass away and again

when i watch his funeral on TV.

Me too, DF. My heart ached for Nancy when she broke down at his casket, when it was all over, because she didn''t want to leave him there at the burial site. Now that, is what love and marriage is all about. We should all be so lucky. Someone asked her why she didn''t go out more in his waning years, why she was so hands-on with his day to day care; they said "he doesn''t remember you." Her response was "I remember."

 

[partgypsy]

"What we need, ladies and gentlemen, is an actual, by God, candidate with the balls and brains to carry us forward"

What we need ladies and gentlemen is an American populace who becomes educated on the issues and VOTES this Novemeber (only 50% of us do). And not just election day read and be educated about the issues that affect all of us.


We didn''t have the balls and brains to vote out Bush 4 years ago, hence the trouble we are in now.

 

[HollyS]

Date: 8/30/2008 3:20:39 PM
Author: part gypsy
''What we need, ladies and gentlemen, is an actual, by God, candidate with the balls and brains to carry us forward''

What we need ladies and gentlemen is an American populace who becomes educated on the issues and VOTES this Novemeber (only 50% of us do). And not just election day read and be educated about the issues that affect all of us.


We didn''t have the balls and brains to vote out Bush 4 years ago, hence the trouble we are in now.

We''ve been admonished by Ali to keep this non-personal. And I''d appreciate you doing just that. Thanks.

Bush isn''t the only problem. Everyone in DC is the problem. They all pander to special interest groups, and scratch each other''s back; it''s what stymies progress. And it is not what our forefathers intended government to be.

If you had read other things I had posted, you would know that I''m as disappointed in Bush as you are. I''m just not willing to make him the scapegoat for the ills of the world. He''s neither that powerful, nor that powerless. Your vote for president will not ''change the world'', or really even your own backyard. It will be business as usual, no matter who is elected. Just ask Nancy Pelosi. She had big dreams, high hopes, and a personal dislike for Bush. And she''s accomplished . . . what?

As far as educating myself, well I''ll tell you, I''m married to a newspaper editor. We''ve been living, breathing, and eating Election 2008 24/7 for months now. I think I''ve got a handle on the ''issues''. I just don''t see them with the same glasses you''re wearing.

 

[miraclesrule]

Date: 8/30/2008 3:20:39 PM
Author: part gypsy
''What we need, ladies and gentlemen, is an actual, by God, candidate with the balls and brains to carry us forward''

What we need ladies and gentlemen is an American populace who becomes educated on the issues and VOTES this Novemeber (only 50% of us do). And not just election day read and be educated about the issues that affect all of us.


We didn''t have the balls and brains to vote out Bush 4 years ago, hence the trouble we are in now.

I hear ya part gypsy.

HollyS, with all due respect, I don''t think part gypsy was directing anything personally towards you although you appear to have taken it personally. partgypsy even said, "We", which included herself and Americans collectively in the beginning of each sentence, not "You" with a quote box from you, nor to HollyS.

As my co-worker likes to say to me when I get all worked up at the office or about anything in general "Sim, sim, simmer, Simba"

 

[ladypirate]

Date: 8/30/2008 6:00:49 PM
Author: miraclesrule

Date: 8/30/2008 3:20:39 PM

Author: part gypsy

''What we need, ladies and gentlemen, is an actual, by God, candidate with the balls and brains to carry us forward''


What we need ladies and gentlemen is an American populace who becomes educated on the issues and VOTES this Novemeber (only 50% of us do). And not just election day read and be educated about the issues that affect all of us.



We didn''t have the balls and brains to vote out Bush 4 years ago, hence the trouble we are in now.

I hear ya part gypsy.


HollyS, with all due respect, I don''t think part gypsy was directing anything personally towards you although you appear to have taken it personally. partgypsy even said, ''We'', which included herself and Americans collectively in the beginning of each sentence, not ''You'' with a quote box from you, nor to HollyS.


As my co-worker likes to say to me when I get all worked up at the office or about anything in general ''Sim, sim, simmer, Simba''

I agree--it didn''t seem like she was attacking Holly personally. Everyone should become educated and vote.

As far as the DNC, any event that has Stevie Wonder play is A-OK in my book.

Seriously, though, I really enjoyed it. I will be really interested to see how the speakers at the Republican convention next week compare.

 

[Dancing Fire]

Date: 8/30/2008 5:10:40 PM
Author: HollyS

Date: 8/30/2008 3:20:39 PM
Author: part gypsy
'What we need, ladies and gentlemen, is an actual, by God, candidate with the balls and brains to carry us forward'

What we need ladies and gentlemen is an American populace who becomes educated on the issues and VOTES this Novemeber (only 50% of us do). And not just election day read and be educated about the issues that affect all of us.


We didn't have the balls and brains to vote out Bush 4 years ago, hence the trouble we are in now.

We've been admonished by Ali to keep this non-personal. And I'd appreciate you doing just that. Thanks.

Bush isn't the only problem. Everyone in DC is the problem. They all pander to special interest groups, and scratch each other's back; it's what stymies progress. And it is not what our forefathers intended government to be.

If you had read other things I had posted, you would know that I'm as disappointed in Bush as you are. I'm just not willing to make him the scapegoat for the ills of the world. He's neither that powerful, nor that powerless. Your vote for president will not 'change the world', or really even your own backyard. It will be business as usual, no matter who is elected. Just ask Nancy Pelosi. She had big dreams, high hopes, and a personal dislike for Bush. And she's accomplished . . . what?

As far as educating myself, well I'll tell you, I'm married to a newspaper editor. We've been living, breathing, and eating Election 2008 24/7 for months now. I think I've got a handle on the 'issues'. I just don't see them with the same glasses you're wearing.

why do people put all the blame on Bush ? shouldn't Pelosi and Reed get some credit too?