why not sparkly? VS2,G,ideal cut(GIA), some flourescence

[H3LP!]

I have been researching and checking out my firend''s rocks lately (mostly about 1 carat) and some are so sparkly with many colors, so clear ...i can literally see it sparkle 5 feet away!! my eyes are glued!
this is where i''m confused. my friend''s rock looks white from even just sitting next to her. and her specs are so good too (1c,VS2,G, excellent ideal cut (GIA), i think the fluorescence is slight and it''s set in white gold). I mean it has some color and looks nice up close but even 1 feet away it just looks like a white circle/blob and not "see through"..i dont get it!!
is it the flourescence?

what makes a diamond get that sparkly "see through and not white opaque" look? isn''t it superb cut with very decent color and clarity?

i''m a newbee please educate me!!!!!

 

[Tolive]

Hey H3LP,

Here''s a quick crash course on GoodOldGold:

http://goodoldgold.com/4Cs/Cut/Proportions/

It might just answer some of your questions

 

[neatfreak]

1. Your friend could be lying about the stats and/or it could be a fake.

2. It's filthy. This is really likely, even a layer of soap can make it look horrible.

3. It's important to note that just because GIA rates it an "excellent" cut doesn't mean it is an "ideal" cut. The GIA range for EX is very wide.

 

[Fly Girl]

Sounds like the diamond isn't clean. You really need to clean them daily, and keep the hand cream off of them. Most people don't. Diamonds are carbon, and attract carbon-based materials (oils, creams, soaps, etc.) like crazy.

 

[arjunajane]

Date: 11/22/2008 7:44:39 PM
Author: neatfreak
1. Your friend could be lying about the stats and/or it could be a fake.

2. It''s filthy. This is really likely, even a layer of soap can make it look horrible.

3. It''s important to note that just because GIA rates it an ''excellent'' cut doesn''t mean it is an ''ideal'' cut. The GIA range for EX is very wide.

ditto x 3!

 

[H3LP!]

wow thanks guys!!!
the website and all your opinions really help!!!

 

[Garry H (Cut Nut)]

Date: 11/22/2008 7:19:04 PM
Author:H3LP!
I have been researching and checking out my firend''s rocks lately (mostly about 1 carat) and some are so sparkly with many colors, so clear ...i can literally see it sparkle 5 feet away!! my eyes are glued!
this is where i''m confused. my friend''s rock looks white from even just sitting next to her. and her specs are so good too (1c,VS2,G, excellent ideal cut (GIA), i think the fluorescence is slight and it''s set in white gold). I mean it has some color and looks nice up close but even 1 feet away it just looks like a white circle/blob and not ''see through''..i dont get it!!
is it the flourescence?

what makes a diamond get that sparkly ''see through and not white opaque'' look? isn''t it superb cut with very decent color and clarity?

i''m a newbee please educate me!!!!!

And gIA do not use Ideal - Excellent is their top grade and many Excellents are not so great

 

[H3LP!]

Date: 11/22/2008 8:44:35 PM
Author: Garry H (Cut Nut)

Date: 11/22/2008 7:19:04 PM

Author:H3LP!

And gIA do not use Ideal - Excellent is their top grade and many Excellents are not so great

So then to make sure in the future, that I am getting an ideal cut should I make sure all the proportions fall under the right range like shown here http://goodoldgold.com/4Cs/Cut/Proportions/

 

[neatfreak]

Date: 11/22/2008 8:51:31 PM
Author: H3LP!

Date: 11/22/2008 8:44:35 PM

Author: Garry H (Cut Nut)

Date: 11/22/2008 7:19:04 PM


Author:H3LP!

And gIA do not use Ideal - Excellent is their top grade and many Excellents are not so great

So then to make sure in the future, that I am getting an ideal cut should I make sure all the proportions fall under the right range like shown here http://goodoldgold.com/4Cs/Cut/Proportions/

And to be sure take the numbers and throw it into the HCA tool (under TOOLS above). You want anything 2 or under.

 

[:)]

Date: 11/22/2008 8:51:31 PM
Author: H3LP!

Date: 11/22/2008 8:44:35 PM
Author: Garry H (Cut Nut)

Date: 11/22/2008 7:19:04 PM

Author:H3LP!

And gIA do not use Ideal - Excellent is their top grade and many Excellents are not so great

So then to make sure in the future, that I am getting an ideal cut should I make sure all the proportions fall under the right range like shown here http://goodoldgold.com/4Cs/Cut/Proportions/

Yes, read the tutorials on PS and the tutorials on GOG - cut is what will truly give the sparkle - gotta get all the angles just right for maximal light reflection/dispersion, etc.

Ditto above thoughts about it being dirty, etc - another thought is perhaps it is clarity enhanced and this is affecting it in some way (or it was given its grade by another lab that perhaps was ''softer'' in grading). In any case, read the tutorials and if you do your homework you are guaranteed to find one that will knock your own socks off!

 

[H3LP!]

WOOHOO!!
U GUYS TOTALLY ROCK!!!
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU

..i will use that HCA tool thing...and read everything on GOG!!

 

[Kelli]

I had a GIA excellent that wasn''t much good. After having it recut, it''s much more sparkly

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 11/22/2008 9:52:26 PM
Author: H3LP!
WOOHOO!!
U GUYS TOTALLY ROCK!!!
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU

..i will use that HCA tool thing...and read everything on GOG!!

We also have a ton of fantastic info right here with our advanced tutorial! Also you can use the archives to search for anything you need top right of the page.

http://diamonds.pricescope.com/