why not more members start new topics?

[Dancing Fire]

Date: 1/2/2010 11:58:41 PM
Author: swedish bean
hmmm I think PS is/ can be intimidating!!

why? Alj must behave herself now.

 

[reader]

A lot of what someone wants to ask has already been asked. In my early days, I got several ''use the search'' responses.

Just not much left to say sometimes after reading what has been written

 

[Gayletmom]

Date: 1/3/2010 3:06:14 AM
Author: Cehrabehra

Date: 1/2/2010 6:04:24 PM

Author: Gayletmom

My issue is that I can''t subscribe to a topic-the system just doesn''t work for me and Ali and Andry can''t figure why. It''s a pain, therefore, to actually follow a thread. I have to check the site several times to follow what''s happening.

do you use firefox or explorer? I use firefox but I think this site is primed for explorer and not all functions work on firefox.

Hi Sara, I use Safari on my Mac and that may be part of the problem. I keep hoping that our very competent mods will figure it out! I do love this site and the people here so helpful and kind.

 

[Shoopy]

I''ll direct you to your previous thread as the responses there still apply today.

 

[radiantquest]

I thought Kenny was new too. I am fond of the DF and Kenny threads. I think sometimes we do not see a whole lot from the newer people is because it does seem that sometimes topics get ignored. I know that when I first started some of my topics would be ignored. They would get bumped, but still only 1 or 2 responses and I was a little put off, but after a while I stopped caring and I post what I want and no one feels like replying thats ok.

 

[Allison D.]

Date: 1/4/2010 1:22:07 AM
Author: Dancing Fire

Date: 1/2/2010 11:58:41 PM
Author: swedish bean
hmmm I think PS is/ can be intimidating!!

why? Alj must behave herself now.

Don''t kid yourself, DF....I''d hate for you to get lulled into a false sense of security.

After all, they knew what they were getting up front...and they don''t expect anything less.

 

[luv2sparkle]

Kenny cracks me up, DF scares me. I still have nightmares about his toe pictures.

 

[Dancing Fire]

Date: 1/4/2010 5:03:11 PM
Author: luv2sparkle
Kenny cracks me up, DF scares me. I still have nightmares about his toe pictures.

your just JEALOUS !!

 

[Dancing Fire]

Date: 1/4/2010 4:51:43 PM
Author: Allison D.

Date: 1/4/2010 1:22:07 AM
Author: Dancing Fire

Date: 1/2/2010 11:58:41 PM
Author: swedish bean
hmmm I think PS is/ can be intimidating!!

why? Alj must behave herself now.

Don''t kid yourself, DF....I''d hate for you to get lulled into a false sense of security.

After all, they knew what they were getting up front...and they don''t expect anything less.

Alj...i know it''s killing you inside for not being able to post your mind since you started working for WF.

 

[AGBF]

Date: 1/3/2010 12:57:38 AM
Author: Imdanny


There are ''popular people'' and intercine conflicts that go back since time immemorial, as at any website. It might be hard for the ''popular people'' to hear, but we who are new don''t care about these conflicts, and although we might not always tell you, when you act like there is a ''pecking order,'' we think you are obnoxious and offensive.

Danny, I admit to being clueless. I have been here forever, but I live in my own world and never know what is going on. Who are the "popular people"? If some people act as if there is a pecking order, why haven''t I noticed it? (Possible answer: because I am clueless and notice nothing. OK, point taken.) Who has old conflicts? (I know you don''t care, but why do you know when I don''t? Possible answer: I am clueless. You are not.)

I may have covered my questions on my own. Thanks for giving me some food for thought, though. I must really live in a parallel universe. In my universe...well, I didn''t know there were any "popular people". If I had to choose some people I liked, you''d be among them. I like smart, funny people who stand out from the crowd. I also, always, liked your crown. But you knew that.

AGBF

 

[Kaleigh]

Date: 1/4/2010 8:03:52 PM
Author: AGBF

Date: 1/3/2010 12:57:38 AM
Author: Imdanny


There are ''popular people'' and intercine conflicts that go back since time immemorial, as at any website. It might be hard for the ''popular people'' to hear, but we who are new don''t care about these conflicts, and although we might not always tell you, when you act like there is a ''pecking order,'' we think you are obnoxious and offensive.

Danny, I admit to being clueless. I have been here forever, but I live in my own world and never know what is going on. Who are the ''popular people''? If some people act as if there is a pecking order, why haven''t I noticed it? (Possible answer: because I am clueless and notice nothing. OK, point taken.) Who has old conflicts? (I know you don''t care, but why do you know when I don''t? Possible answer: I am clueless. You are not.)

I may have covered my questions on my own. Thanks for giving me some food for thought, though. I must really live in a parallel universe. In my universe...well, I didn''t know there were any ''popular people''. If I had to choose some people I liked, you''d be among them. I like smart, funny people who stand out from the crowd. I also, always, liked your crown. But you knew that.

AGBF

I am clueless too Deb.

 

[Dancing Fire]

Date: 1/4/2010 8:48:43 PM
Author: Kaleigh

Date: 1/4/2010 8:03:52 PM
Author: AGBF

Date: 1/3/2010 12:57:38 AM
Author: Imdanny


There are ''popular people'' and intercine conflicts that go back since time immemorial, as at any website. It might be hard for the ''popular people'' to hear, but we who are new don''t care about these conflicts, and although we might not always tell you, when you act like there is a ''pecking order,'' we think you are obnoxious and offensive.

Danny, I admit to being clueless. I have been here forever, but I live in my own world and never know what is going on. Who are the ''popular people''? If some people act as if there is a pecking order, why haven''t I noticed it? (Possible answer: because I am clueless and notice nothing. OK, point taken.) Who has old conflicts? (I know you don''t care, but why do you know when I don''t? Possible answer: I am clueless. You are not.)

I may have covered my questions on my own. Thanks for giving me some food for thought, though. I must really live in a parallel universe. In my universe...well, I didn''t know there were any ''popular people''. If I had to choose some people I liked, you''d be among them. I like smart, funny people who stand out from the crowd. I also, always, liked your crown. But you knew that.

AGBF

I am clueless too Deb.

Kaleigh... system normal.

 

[arjunajane]

Date: 1/4/2010 8:48:43 PM
Author: Kaleigh

Date: 1/4/2010 8:03:52 PM

Author: AGBF

Date: 1/3/2010 12:57:38 AM

Author: Imdanny



There are ''popular people'' and intercine conflicts that go back since time immemorial, as at any website. It might be hard for the ''popular people'' to hear, but we who are new don''t care about these conflicts, and although we might not always tell you, when you act like there is a ''pecking order,'' we think you are obnoxious and offensive.

Danny, I admit to being clueless. I have been here forever, but I live in my own world and never know what is going on. Who are the ''popular people''? If some people act as if there is a pecking order, why haven''t I noticed it? (Possible answer: because I am clueless and notice nothing. OK, point taken.) Who has old conflicts? (I know you don''t care, but why do you know when I don''t? Possible answer: I am clueless. You are not.)


I may have covered my questions on my own. Thanks for giving me some food for thought, though. I must really live in a parallel universe. In my universe...well, I didn''t know there were any ''popular people''. If I had to choose some people I liked, you''d be among them. I like smart, funny people who stand out from the crowd. I also, always, liked your crown. But you knew that.


AGBF

I am clueless too Deb.

where I come from it''s called "stirring the pot"..

 

[Allison D.]

Date: 1/4/2010 6:56:11 PM
Author: Dancing Fire

Date: 1/4/2010 4:51:43 PM
Author: Allison D.

Date: 1/4/2010 1:22:07 AM
Author: Dancing Fire

Date: 1/2/2010 11:58:41 PM
Author: swedish bean
hmmm I think PS is/ can be intimidating!!

why? Alj must behave herself now.

Don''t kid yourself, DF....I''d hate for you to get lulled into a false sense of security.

After all, they knew what they were getting up front...and they don''t expect anything less.

Alj...i know it''s killing you inside for not being able to post your mind since you started working for WF.

I''m flattered that you''re so worried about me, DF, but I''m afraid you''re wrong on this one.

Nothing is killing me, because I''m fully able to post my mind if I''d like. The truth is this: it''s not lack of being able to, it''s lack of *desire* to because there''s very little cause for it now.

PS is pretty cyclical, so most things that come up now have already been well hashed out before, and I"m not a fan of sequels. No sense recovering ground, yanno?

Also, it''s a different place now. Back in the day, there were several spirited folks who could and would engage in a lively exchange and *enjoyed* it; they were able to participate without getting personally offended when someone''s opinion differed from their own. As I mentioned in another thread recently, it seems so many folks these days outright take offense or take it personally when an opinion doesn''t mirror their own, and for me, that kills the purpose of exchanging ideas. It''s just not worth the work it takes now.

 

[setell]

Date: 1/5/2010 8:51:01 AM
Author: Allison D.

I''m flattered that you''re so worried about me, DF, but I''m afraid you''re wrong on this one.

Nothing is killing me, because I''m fully able to post my mind if I''d like. The truth is this: it''s not lack of being able to, it''s lack of *desire* to because there''s very little cause for it now.

PS is pretty cyclical, so most things that come up now have already been well hashed out before, and I''m not a fan of sequels. No sense recovering ground, yanno?

Also, it''s a different place now. Back in the day, there were several spirited folks who could and would engage in a lively exchange and *enjoyed* it; they were able to participate without getting personally offended when someone''s opinion differed from their own. As I mentioned in another thread recently, it seems so many folks these days outright take offense or take it personally when an opinion doesn''t mirror their own, and for me, that kills the purpose of exchanging ideas. It''s just not worth the work it takes now.

I think you hit the nail there Allison. Meh people get offended so easily on PS at times that I don’t really want to post. I go to another board when I want a good debate. I mean if I said what I truly thought of some posts on PS I’ll get banned and never allowed back but if I said what I really thought on another forum I frequent then folks there are like “yup we’re like that, what else is wrong?”. Seems they can take the “offense” better then folks here. When I go to a board, I don’t want to walk on eggshells and have no desire to so I lurk more here. Another thing I’ve noticed is that people will generally ignore a lot of the “newer” folks posts and reply/quote the more popular posters. Not saying it’s a bad thing but just an observation that is all. I’m of the type that I value what’s been written vs who is doing it.

 

[Dancing Fire]

Date: 1/5/2010 10:02:15 AM
Author: setell

Date: 1/5/2010 8:51:01 AM
Author: Allison D.

I''m flattered that you''re so worried about me, DF, but I''m afraid you''re wrong on this one.

Nothing is killing me, because I''m fully able to post my mind if I''d like. The truth is this: it''s not lack of being able to, it''s lack of *desire* to because there''s very little cause for it now.

PS is pretty cyclical, so most things that come up now have already been well hashed out before, and I''m not a fan of sequels. No sense recovering ground, yanno?

Also, it''s a different place now. Back in the day, there were several spirited folks who could and would engage in a lively exchange and *enjoyed* it; they were able to participate without getting personally offended when someone''s opinion differed from their own. As I mentioned in another thread recently, it seems so many folks these days outright take offense or take it personally when an opinion doesn''t mirror their own, and for me, that kills the purpose of exchanging ideas. It''s just not worth the work it takes now.

I think you hit the nail there Allison. Meh people get offended so easily on PS at times that I don’t really want to post. I go to another board when I want a good debate. I mean if I said what I truly thought of some posts on PS I’ll get banned and never allowed back but if I said what I really thought on another forum I frequent then folks there are like “yup we’re like that, what else is wrong?”. Seems they can take the “offense” better then folks here. When I go to a board, I don’t want to walk on eggshells and have no desire to so I lurk more here. Another thing I’ve noticed is that people will generally ignore a lot of the “newer” folks posts and reply/quote the more popular posters. Not saying it’s a bad thing but just an observation that is all. I’m of the type that I value what’s been written vs who is doing it.

i had never notice "newbies" being ignored on this forum.

 

[Allison D.]

Date: 1/5/2010 10:02:15 AM
Author: setell
I think you hit the nail there Allison. Meh people get offended so easily on PS at times that I don’t really want to post. I go to another board when I want a good debate. I mean if I said what I truly thought of some posts on PS I’ll get banned and never allowed back but if I said what I really thought on another forum I frequent then folks there are like “yup we’re like that, what else is wrong?”. Seems they can take the “offense” better then folks here. When I go to a board, I don’t want to walk on eggshells and have no desire to so I lurk more here. Another thing I’ve noticed is that people will generally ignore a lot of the “newer” folks posts and reply/quote the more popular posters. Not saying it’s a bad thing but just an observation that is all. I’m of the type that I value what’s been written vs who is doing it.

Honestly, I think that's a misconception. I don't think new posters are ignored per se; I think it's more that they perhaps generate a bit less dialogue because they aren't yet known.

It's not about popularity; it's about familiarity. After all, if you walk into a cocktail party, you tend to gravitate first toward the people you already know and have history with, right? You don't approach total strangers first; you look for those people you already know. In the reverse, when you arrive at the party, who do you expect to greet you first....the people who already know you, or people you've never met? I'm guessing it's the people you already know.

Part of this stems from the fact that you've already established commonalities with the folks you know. You already understand where they're coming from, so sometimes it's easier, yanno? Especially now, when it seems things have gotten so ultra-sensitive.

For example, TGal and I go way back, so I already know that she won't take offense (much

) if we have opinions that differ, so I'm more likely to respond to a comment she makes because I already know she's not going to be offended by my directness or different perspective. Also, because we often do see things similarly, our posts do often resonate with each other.

That said, though, we were ALL new at one point, and the best way to form ties is to join discussions you can and keep at it. Making relationships here is very much like making relationships in real life; as you learn more about others and they about you, you find commonalities that help you to connect more and become more familiar.

 

[setell]

Date: 1/5/2010 10:35:41 AM
Author: Allison D.

Honestly, I think that''s a misconception. I don''t think new posters are ignored per se; I think it''s more that they perhaps generate a bit less dialogue because they aren''t yet known.

It''s not about popularity; it''s about familiarity. After all, if you walk into a cocktail party, you tend to gravitate first toward the people you already know and have history with, right? You don''t approach total strangers first; you look for those people you already know. In the reverse, when you arrive at the party, who do you expect to greet you first....the people who already know you, or people you''ve never met? I''m guessing it''s the people you already know.

Part of this stems from the fact that you''ve already established commonalities with the folks you know. You already understand where they''re coming from, so sometimes it''s easier, yanno? Especially now, when it seems things have gotten so ultra-sensitive.

For example, TGal and I go way back, so I already know that she won''t take offense (much

) if we have opinions that differ, so I''m more likely to respond to a comment she makes because I already know she''s not going to be offended by my directness or different perspective. Also, because we often do see things similarly, our posts do often resonate with each other.

That said, though, we were ALL new at one point, and the best way to form ties is to join discussions you can and keep at it. Making relationships here is very much like making relationships in real life; as you learn more about others and they about you, you find commonalities that help you to connect more and become more familiar.

Well eventually everybody will be familiar with each other if you post often enough but it’s just done more so on PS then in other forums I visit that is all. I personally expect people to put a strong mask on if you’re going to post online. Be prepared to defend/change your position as a healthy debate stems from lots of opinions and viewpoints. Once you get people just responding to certain posters comments then it becomes more a two way conversation vs more of a healthier online conversation/debate and to me it doesn’t make me feel like I want to join in if it happens a lot. I mean, take your example of an outsider trying to join an conversation between two people at the party. It’s harder and it doesn’t make you feel like you want to work that much harder to join in because there is a super high chance your post is more of a post count booster vs. provide substance to the topic discussed. I also really agree with you how folks here are ultra sensitive. The ultra sensitivity of folks really doesn’t encourage me to post my true thoughts as they don’t want it and will flame you for it. I still enjoy coming here though, no clue why but I do so I keep my mouth shut at times

 

[janinegirly]

I disagree too that newbies get ignored. It''s human nature to be drawn to topics started by people you are familar with, but not necessarily b/c you feel you "know" them, but more likely b/c you are familiar with the kinds of posts they make and find them entertaining for whatever reason. If a new person comes up with a catchy topic, same result. I for one know I have started topics that are probably dead boring to most (living room decor for example..haha) and therefore it gets little traffic.