who would be best suited to produce this ring using CAD

[mani5ha]

I am going with CAD because it''s cheaper and i can spend more on the diamond, but i was going to go with WF for the setting but am a teeny bit unsure because i want micropave and i''m wondering if any other vendors are better at doing that in CAD, i havent seen many examples of WF as opposed to ERD for example but they both use CAD...dont they?

So, I guess my question is, which vendor that does CAD work would be best placed to create this ring for me, considering that it has micropave in it and i''d like it to look as neat as possible?

 

[swingirl]

Show us an example of the size of micropave you are looking for.

I am confused since you attached the photo of the WF setting. Is this NOT what you are looking for?

 

[mani5ha]

Something quite delicate, this this ring (ERD) the thing is, i''ve never really seen Whiteflash do micropave halos

https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/were-engaged-and-i-love-my-cushion-w-halo-from-erd.55576/

 

[mrssalvo]

I think both ERD and WF would do a good job. Brian Gavin also does beautiful custom work using Cad/Cam so you might consider them as well.
Weren''t you thinking about using Leon? You might still call or email him for a quote b/c there have been instances where folks had quotes from him and some of the CAD vendors mentioned and Leon was equal or even less. It''s not always the case but if the price was close, i''d take a handmade Leon over a cast ring.

 

[mani5ha]

Date: 1/27/2010 2:34:44 PM
Author: mrssalvo
I think both ERD and WF would do a good job. Brian Gavin also does beautiful custom work using Cad/Cam so you might consider them as well.

Weren''t you thinking about using Leon? You might still call or email him for a quote b/c there have been instances where folks had quotes from him and some of the CAD vendors mentioned and Leon was equal or even less. It''s not always the case but if the price was close, i''d take a handmade Leon over a cast ring.

Hi Mrsalvo!

I''m so confused... I know i keep posting asking for opinins on here! But I have seen so many ERD halos (maybe cos they sell cushions?) and hardly any WF ones... so I am just wondering if ERD would be better although I probably want a WF ACA.

Leon - I asked about a similar setting and even though i wanted a plain shank and all it has was a double sided halo... he quoted me $4000! There is no way my bf would pay that!!! and I''d rather spend $8000 on a diamond than $6000!!!!

 

[swingirl]

Date: 1/27/2010 2:27:01 PM
Author: mani5ha
Something quite delicate, this this ring (ERD) the thing is, i've never really seen Whiteflash do micropave halos

https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/were-engaged-and-i-love-my-cushion-w-halo-from-erd.55576/

I don't see the ERD ring as being more delicate than the WF ring. To my eyes the prongs on ERD halo look larger than the prongs on the WF halo. But the photos are hard to compare. So when you say "delicate" are you referring to the size of the pave stones or the size of the prongs?

You need to start getting some other quotes. A custom made pave halo isn't going to come cheap.

 

[mrssalvo]

If you are getting the diamond from WF, then I would have them do the setting as well. It''s just really so much easier if you can get the setting and diamond from the same place. WF has done a ton of halo rings, I wouldn''t worry about that at all.

 

[oldminer]

Don''t go with an unknown maker who claims they can make a low cost micro-pave'' ring for you. It takes more than the right mounting or CAD program to make one of these. It takes time to perfect these models and often when a jewelr who does not often make such items constructs one exactly made to order they have no real idea of how to make it so that it turns out just right and is durable over the long term. Making it too light will hurt durability and you''ll get it for a tempting price only to suffer with it too soon from premature wear out.

 

[mani5ha]

Date: 1/27/2010 2:42:18 PM
Author: swingirl

Date: 1/27/2010 2:27:01 PM

Author: mani5ha

Something quite delicate, this this ring (ERD) the thing is, i''ve never really seen Whiteflash do micropave halos


https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/were-engaged-and-i-love-my-cushion-w-halo-from-erd.55576/

I don''t see the ERD ring as being more delicate than the WF ring. To my eyes the prongs on ERD halo look larger than the prongs on the WF halo. But the photos are hard to compare. So when you say ''delicate'' are you referring to the size of the pave stones or the size of the prongs?


You need to start getting some other quotes. A custom made pave halo isn''t going to come cheap.

I guess it''s because i''ve seen more handshots of ERD cushion halos in the style that I want (i.e. winnie) when i mean the style that I want, i mean I want the pave to be teeny tiny just like that with minimum metal in between. I''m sure WF would be fine but I guess i''m just getting cold feet... it''s a huge purchase especially to make online without seeing it!!!! arghhh!

 

[Bella_mezzo]

if ERD and WF are similar in price just pick the one you feel better about in terms of aesthetics and customer service/communication.

 

[CharmyPoo]

I have seen ERD make many designs like the one shown. Perhaps CCL can answer and share his experience - his ring is an inspired HW micropave halo.

 

[mani5ha]

I emailed Mark and am awaiting a quote. I saw an ERD ring here that sort of resembled the ring I want, does it look like it would be similar to you?! because it does to me but the ERD seems more smooth...

https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/dreaming-of-my-cushion-halo%E2%80%A6-the-process.58288/

(Just the centre not the shank)!

and this one! MMM's ring but I want a RB in the middle and a plain shank!!!!!!

 

[shimmer]

It sounds a lot like the WF Guinevere setting, no? SInce you want a WF ACA, I would order it in this setting and see how you like it. Then you have the security of a return policy where with custom you do not. Check the return policy first though, I''m not sure what it is on settings

 

[mani5ha]

erm oops

i didnt post the link
MMMs ring!

 

[CharmyPoo]

I saw a gorgeous setting like the one you want in a magazine the other day ... but I just can''t rememebr who makes it. I am going to find out and let you know so you can check out the prices.

 

[mani5ha]

Thankyou so much CharmyPoo! That would be great!! The only one I can think of that has a cushion halo with a round brilliant is the Tacori 2620!!!

 

[ChunkyCushionLover]

Date: 1/27/2010 6:22:11 PM
Author: mani5ha
erm oops

i didnt post the link
MMMs ring!

You keep posting old rings, ERD has gotten much better at these designs more recently. Those rings like mmm''s have larger prongs and more metal showing. That particular ring has an airline (space) between the centre stone and the halo you need to be clear if you want this or not.

Based on the pictures of rings you have posted I get the feeling you aren''t going to nitpick on the most minimal amount of metal. If you liked the rings you linked to I think WF or ERD can both do an excellent job.

Another choice would be Brian Gavin Diamonds they also can make a beautiful round with a halo. See this pictrue even though it has a bezel and you can request prong without a bezel(the style you linked to and posted above)
https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/bgd-halo-er-finished-pics.129803/

Once you decided that high-end handmade (like Leon or Ocean) is out of your budget, you have three high quality CAD/CAM wax vendors to choose from. I would choose the same vendor for stone and setting, for simplicity and insurance purposes. Given that BGD and WF are known for their top quality rounds I''d probably pick one of them, but its not difficult to send the stone to ERD if you prefer. You really are in good hands they all make quality settings and have great reputations here.

In terms of the melee size you really should look in person in B&M stores at rings and see the melee size. Based on you wanting small diamonds in the halo I''d say to stick with about 0.8 - 1 pt diamonds (or 1.1 - 1.4mm stones). But pictures cannot help you decide this you really should go look in stores. Tacori rings have 0.5pt or smaller in them like in the 2620 and for many this may be too small.

In magazines you often see Ritani http://www.finks.com/main/index.php?m=9&vc=85&PID=1081&pco=28 and Tacori halos but those are going to be priced similarly or more expensive than handmade designers like Ocean or Leon might charge so I don''t see much of a reason to go that route.

Good-Luck,
CCl

 

[Dreamer_D]

Just to throw it out there, Ritani makes a ring like you want: http://www.pearlmansjewelers.com/jewelry-designers/ritani-jewelry/rings/84QQ1/49/ And can customize without pave on the halo. That price is for plat and so wg and with the PS discount the price is very good. Pearlman''s will send you a ring to try on if you want, so you can see if you like it. They also insure diamonds during the setting process.

Ritani are known for the extreme durability of their pave, so I would go with them if you can.

 

[ChunkyCushionLover]

Date: 1/28/2010 12:33:32 PM
Author: dreamer_dachsie
Just to throw it out there, Ritani makes a ring like you want: http://www.pearlmansjewelers.com/jewelry-designers/ritani-jewelry/rings/84QQ1/49/ And can customize without pave on the halo. That price is for plat and so wg and with the PS discount the price is very good. Pearlman''s will send you a ring to try on if you want, so you can see if you like it. They also insure diamonds during the setting process.

Ritani are known for the extreme durability of their pave, so I would go with them if you can.

Nice

you found the piece I was looking for. I should point out though that $2500 - $3000 is about what you should expect to pay for a CAD/CAM custom job with 0.5 - 1carat carats of diamonds in that style. The diamonds in that ring are TINY! 0.19 carats for a whole ring those must be like 0.3 - 0.4 pointers. I''d be really sure to see a ritani ring before purchasing one make sure you like the tiny diamonds in real life.

 

[mani5ha]

Date: 1/28/2010 11:58:18 AM
Author: ChunkyCushionLover

Date: 1/27/2010 6:22:11 PM

Author: mani5ha

erm oops


i didnt post the link

MMMs ring!

You keep posting old rings, ERD has gotten much better at these designs more recently. Those rings like mmm''s have larger prongs and more metal showing. That particular ring has an airline (space) between the centre stone and the halo you need to be clear if you want this or not.


Based on the pictures of rings you have posted I get the feeling you aren''t going to nitpick on the most minimal amount of metal. If you liked the rings you linked to I think WF or ERD can both do an excellent job.


Another choice would be Brian Gavin Diamonds they also can make a beautiful round with a halo. See this pictrue even though it has a bezel and you can request prong without a bezel(the style you linked to and posted above)

https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/bgd-halo-er-finished-pics.129803/


Once you decided that high-end handmade (like Leon or Ocean) is out of your budget, you have three high quality CAD/CAM wax vendors to choose from. I would choose the same vendor for stone and setting, for simplicity and insurance purposes. Given that BGD and WF are known for their top quality rounds I''d probably pick one of them, but its not difficult to send the stone to ERD if you prefer. You really are in good hands they all make quality settings and have great reputations here.


In terms of the melee size you really should look in person in B&M stores at rings and see the melee size. Based on you wanting small diamonds in the halo I''d say to stick with about 0.8 - 1 pt diamonds (or 1.1 - 1.4mm stones). But pictures cannot help you decide this you really should go look in stores. Tacori rings have 0.5pt or smaller in them like in the 2620 and for many this may be too small.


In magazines you often see Ritani http://www.finks.com/main/index.php?m=9&vc=85&PID=1081&pco=28 and Tacori halos but those are going to be priced similarly or more expensive than handmade designers like Ocean or Leon might charge so I don''t see much of a reason to go that route.


Good-Luck,

CCl

CCL I guess I do keep posting old rings, thats cos when i do searches and search meticulously through each link, sometimes old links come up that I like - maybe this isn''t the most accurate representation?

CCL and DreamerDaisie I''ve decided to go with WF as ERD''s quote was nearly $1000 more, and I really want an ACA... watch this space!!!!!!!!!

 

[Kaleigh]

I am sure WF will do a great job, congrats on your decision. Please come back with lots of pics!!!!

 

[mrssalvo]

Date: 1/28/2010 9:45:20 PM
Author: Kaleigh
I am sure WF will do a great job, congrats on your decision. Please come back with lots of pics!!!!

ditto!

 

[ChunkyCushionLover]

Date: 1/28/2010 9:32:19 PM
Author: mani5ha

Date: 1/28/2010 11:58:18 AM
Author: ChunkyCushionLover

Date: 1/27/2010 6:22:11 PM

Author: mani5ha

erm oops


i didnt post the link

MMMs ring!

You keep posting old rings, ERD has gotten much better at these designs more recently. Those rings like mmm''s have larger prongs and more metal showing. That particular ring has an airline (space) between the centre stone and the halo you need to be clear if you want this or not.


Based on the pictures of rings you have posted I get the feeling you aren''t going to nitpick on the most minimal amount of metal. If you liked the rings you linked to I think WF or ERD can both do an excellent job.


Another choice would be Brian Gavin Diamonds they also can make a beautiful round with a halo. See this pictrue even though it has a bezel and you can request prong without a bezel(the style you linked to and posted above)

https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/bgd-halo-er-finished-pics.129803/


Once you decided that high-end handmade (like Leon or Ocean) is out of your budget, you have three high quality CAD/CAM wax vendors to choose from. I would choose the same vendor for stone and setting, for simplicity and insurance purposes. Given that BGD and WF are known for their top quality rounds I''d probably pick one of them, but its not difficult to send the stone to ERD if you prefer. You really are in good hands they all make quality settings and have great reputations here.


In terms of the melee size you really should look in person in B&M stores at rings and see the melee size. Based on you wanting small diamonds in the halo I''d say to stick with about 0.8 - 1 pt diamonds (or 1.1 - 1.4mm stones). But pictures cannot help you decide this you really should go look in stores. Tacori rings have 0.5pt or smaller in them like in the 2620 and for many this may be too small.


In magazines you often see Ritani http://www.finks.com/main/index.php?m=9&vc=85&PID=1081&pco=28 and Tacori halos but those are going to be priced similarly or more expensive than handmade designers like Ocean or Leon might charge so I don''t see much of a reason to go that route.


Good-Luck,

CCl

CCL I guess I do keep posting old rings, thats cos when i do searches and search meticulously through each link, sometimes old links come up that I like - maybe this isn''t the most accurate representation?

CCL and DreamerDaisie I''ve decided to go with WF as ERD''s quote was nearly $1000 more, and I really want an ACA... watch this space!!!!!!!!!

Make sure you are comparing apples to apples, and get every detail you want in writing don''t approve the CADs until you are totally satisfied.
I find it hard to beleive the pricing is that far off what does WF charge for that ring?
Make sure to request WF aca melee as well, you might as well since they will do the ring and you might as well pay for the brightest halo. What size diamonds will WF use in the halo and shank?

 

[mani5ha]

Date: 1/29/2010 12:28:58 AM
Author: ChunkyCushionLover
Make sure you are comparing apples to apples, and get every detail you want in writing don''t approve the CADs until you are totally satisfied.
I find it hard to beleive the pricing is that far off what does WF charge for that ring?
Make sure to request WF aca melee as well, you might as well since they will do the ring and you might as well pay for the brightest halo. What size diamonds will WF use in the halo and shank?

WF are charging me around $1700 for it, this is based on me buying the centre stone from them as well.

This is the details that WF have given me so far:

"The ring you mentioned was a custom pave halo engagment ring with .60ctw in ACA diamond melee. We used 1.00-1.10mm (.005ct) and 1.10-1.20mm (.006ct) ACA diamond melee in the halo. The melee used in the shank was approximately 1.45-1.55mm (.015ct). The ring set a 1.11ct Round Brilliant. "

What do you think of that for the sizes of the melee?

My ring will however not have diamonds in the shank, and my diamond is about a 1.17 ACA

I am going to be speaking with the CAD designer today to make absolutely sure that I get exactly what I want.