White Gold = Need for high color

[zebramoray]

Jeweler is telling me since we are looking at doing a white gold or plat setting, we must go up in color.. Jeweler says yellow gold is safe for J-K stones, but white gold will make them look more tinted.. Is this true or a sales pitch to buy into a higher color stone? We have an ideal cut J-K stone, that looks very white face up, but now I''m afraid to put it in a white gold ring.. Setting will look like the Tiffany Lucida, except shank will be pave..

 

[MonkeyPie]

I somehow doubt this. There are too many women here with white gold holding their warmer stones, and they look just fine. Mine is a G and looks great, very white.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 7/21/2008 9:27:38 AM
Author:zebramoray
Jeweler is telling me since we are looking at doing a white gold or plat setting, we must go up in color.. Jeweler says yellow gold is safe for J-K stones, but white gold will make them look more tinted.. Is this true or a sales pitch to buy into a higher color stone? We have an ideal cut J-K stone, that looks very white face up, but now I''m afraid to put it in a white gold ring.. Setting will look like the Tiffany Lucida, except shank will be pave..

It is purely a matter of preference, although I too have heard this about YG helping lower colours to face up whiter, there are many variables, so go with what you like. There are many PSers with these colour grades set in WG and even platinum - and they are very happy with their choice, so if you prefer WG then go with it.

 

[Shoopy]

I have never heard of this so I''ll be interested in what the "experts" on here have to say.

When you say higher color, do you mean getting a whiter color or a more tinted color?

My best friend has a 1 carat marquise J in 14k white gold and there isn''t a speck of yellow that shows off of that stone. It''s beautiful

 

[dockman3]

I have actually heard of this too, and it does make some sense. Putting a stone with more color next to a whiter setting will bring out the color. Its like putting your J or K next to a D, in some sense, though WG is not nearly as white as a D! But you get the idea. Now putting a J or K, which are still pretty white, next to something that''s yellow will bring out the white.

However, you have to see if for your self before you can make a choice. Have them just rest the stone in a WG setting and then have them rest it in a similar YG setting and see which one you prefer. Either that, or take different colored stones, maybe a G and your J and put them each in the WG setting and see if you are really color sensitive or not.

And if the jeweler used the word "must", that is bad as there is nothing you "must" do. Do what you like and don''t be worried about what the jeweler says. Its your ring, not theirs.

 

[zebramoray]

fieryred33143

Yes, I mean going up in color... We have a 2.49 Ideal Cut Stone, .8 HCA (Ex, Ex, Ex, EX)... It''s an EGL I color.. But after comparing it some I, J stones, it probably closer to a K, possibly an L.. When the stone is by itself, it''s beautiful.. Faces up very nice.. I can see some warmth, yes of course.. But it''s a fire cracker.. On a white background, it''s still looks great.. Just wondering how a white gold setting would effect it.. If the white gold would pull the "true" color out of it..

Thanks everyone..

 

[mercoledi]

Your jeweler should have open settings in both yellow and white gold available. Why not just drop in your stone and have a look in different lighting conditions? It won''t be exactly the same, but it should give you an idea.

Honestly though, if your stone looks great against a white piece of paper, I don''t see how while gold could make it yellower, and in a bezel setting you won''t see the pavilion where color is usually most obvious.

 

[elle_chris]

I have a 1ct "K" pendant set in platinum. My stone looks slightly yellowier (i hate using that word but that''s what is looks like) compared to the platinum. Don''t get me wrong, I still love it and don''t regret setting it in platinum nor does the tint bother me.
My ering is a "G", also set in platinum. I can''t see a difference in the colors between the metal and the stone at all.

Honestly, i think your jeweler has a point- but if you can''t see a difference or it doesn''t bother you, get what you like more.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 7/21/2008 10:03:51 AM
Author: zebramoray
fieryred33143

Yes, I mean going up in color... We have a 2.49 Ideal Cut Stone, .8 HCA (Ex, Ex, Ex, EX)... It''s an EGL I color.. But after comparing it some I, J stones, it probably closer to a K, possibly an L.. When the stone is by itself, it''s beautiful.. Faces up very nice.. I can see some warmth, yes of course.. But it''s a fire cracker.. On a white background, it''s still looks great.. Just wondering how a white gold setting would effect it.. If the white gold would pull the ''true'' color out of it..

Thanks everyone..

I have a large EGL USA graded diamond of L colour, it is set in YG with a WG head, as YG is my preference, but I wouldn''t be worried personally about setting my stone in WG if I ever wanted to change the setting.

Merc has a good idea, see if you could ask the jeweller if you could drop the diamond into both types of setting, that could give you a better idea.

 

[Allison D.]

Date: 7/21/2008 9:27:38 AM
Author:zebramoray
Jeweler is telling me since we are looking at doing a white gold or plat setting, we must go up in color.. Jeweler says yellow gold is safe for J-K stones, but white gold will make them look more tinted..

I'd personally have to disagree with this. You've said you're working with a well-cut stone, and with well-cut stones with reliable grading reports, near colorless stones just do perfectly fine in white metals. There are several examples here on Pricescope of J stones set into platinum and white gold.

In fact, I personally prefer to put near-colorless stones in white metal; diamonds reflect the colors that surround them, so putting a J stone in a yellow metal would only make it appear more yellow, not less.

K stones may appear a bit more warm than J stones, and in a ring of more than 1.25 cts or so, I might be inclined to move to yellow gold setting, but I've seen many 2+ ct. J stones set in white metals that look fine. The warmth might be sliiiiiiiiiightly noticeable, but not terribly noticeable.

 

[zebramoray]

Thanks Allison D..

 

[surfgirl]

I've heard this as well. I have an antique family OEC that's an M I think. It's always been set in YG settings because it looks whiter, but right now it's in a bezel with a WG inner bezel and yes, I definitely notice the warmth and yellowness. That said, nobody here or anywhere else can answer this question for you. Only your eyes can tell you if YOU would see more color in a white metal or yellow metal setting. Why dont you just ask your jeweler to sit the stone in two different settings, one YG one WG, and see what YOUR eyes tell you?

 

[MonkeyPie]

Date: 7/21/2008 12:17:22 PM
Author: Allison D.

In fact, I personally prefer to put near-colorless stones in white metal; diamonds reflect the colors that surround them, so putting a J stone in a yellow metal would only make it appear more yellow, not less.

This is exactly what I was thinking. It''s one of the reasons I don''t really like yellow gold.