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Which Stone 2.031 F VS1 or 2.16 G VS2

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chichow

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please note, that I am happy with either vendor so I don''t expect/desire comments on the vendors themselves.

What I am asking for is opinion between the two stones themselves.

http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/Whiteflash-ACA-cut-diamond-1018780.htm

http://www.highperformancediamonds.com/index.php?page=view-id-diamond-infinity&id=89

there is about a a 3k asking price difference between the stones.

I am sure there is that premium of the 2.031 stone being just above the 2ctw mark.

One thing that does concern me is that the 2.16 stone cert is 2+ years old and I am wondering why the diamond is not moving.

The stone will become a solitaire or perhaps the center stone in a 3 stone ring setting flanked by other diamonds or colored gems

thoughts?
 
Both look great!

I don''t think you need to worry about the 2yr time - it''s a lot of money, and many people just don''t have it, or chose different specs...lucky for you
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I guess another question would be face up in natural light (not next to each other) is anyone going to notice the difference? the whole mind clean vs eye clean
 
They''re both beautiful and pretty similar. Nobody will notice the clarity difference. Probably nobody will notice the size or color difference either unless they''re looking at them unset, side by side.

How color sensitive are you? Unless you''re very good at seeing color, I would probably go with the bigger, cheaper one.

I''m sure you''ll be happy with either one.
 
I''m seeing some really wonky symmetry in the images of the 2.16 (towards the center of the stone) -- which doesn''t make sense if it''s an infinity with ideal-ideal rating for symmetry. Could the images have been taken off-center?
 
Date: 9/29/2009 9:22:41 PM
Author: glitterata
They''re both beautiful and pretty similar. Nobody will notice the clarity difference. Probably nobody will notice the size or color difference either unless they''re looking at them unset, side by side.


How color sensitive are you? Unless you''re very good at seeing color, I would probably go with the bigger, cheaper one.


I''m sure you''ll be happy with either one.
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I can see the colour difference but that is under controlled conditions. So if I am in Tiffany''s and I am going back to back, then I can tell.

i am sure I won''t be able to tell on an indirect natural light day.
 
Can you define what is wonky symmetry?
 
Date: 9/29/2009 10:29:25 PM
Author: chichow
Can you define what is wonky symmetry?
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I will just fix the links then take a look for you,

http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/Whiteflash-ACA-cut-diamond-1018780.htm

http://www.highperformancediamonds.com/index.php?page=view-id-diamond-infinity&id=89

The HPD looks fine, symmetry in this instance refers to optical symmetry which can be seen and studied as the precision of the h&a patterning, VR the Ideal grade for symmetry on the report means lab graded physical symmetry- not optical symmetry of the hearts and arrows patterning, I think what you are seeing might just be a result of a couple of the images and not the diamond itself.

Both diamonds look good.
 
Two more stones.

Why the price difference? These seem fine too, yet are significantly cheaper.

http://www.whiteflash.com/round/Round-cut-diamond-2128405.htm#

http://www.whiteflash.com/round_ideal_cut/Round-Ideal-Cut-cut-diamond-2173517.htm#

I''m sorry, but I don''t know how to make the links clickable
 
#1 stone has faint fluor, so is slightly discounted in trade.

#2 seems to be an ACA, not sure why it is in the Expert Selection. Ask WF. It has a weird leakage that should not be there for ACA.


#1 looks better than #2 to me.
 
Date: 9/30/2009 11:01:03 AM
Author: Stone-cold11
#1 stone has faint fluor, so is slightly discounted in trade.

#2 seems to be an ACA, not sure why it is in the Expert Selection. Ask WF. It has a weird leakage that should not be there for ACA.


#1 looks better than #2 to me.
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Thank you for the links SC!

This is because the diamond was probably under analysis to be an ACA yet didn't make the grade, in these cases if they have hearts images done then apparently WF will still add them to the diamond's page even if the stone did not make ACA.
Both look like good diamonds, I don't think the faint fluorescence in a G colour would give much if any discount, this looks like a very nice stone. The second does show a little leakage however this is an Expert Selection diamond, also the leakage is very slight and might not be visible in reality, ask WF about this if interested.
 
Date: 9/29/2009 10:15:00 PM
Author: VRBeauty
I''m seeing some really wonky symmetry in the images of the 2.16 (towards the center of the stone) -- which doesn''t make sense if it''s an infinity with ideal-ideal rating for symmetry. Could the images have been taken off-center?
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Good eye VRB! The images are early Infinity photographs that need to be re-done, the diamond is obviously tilted in the ASET and Ideal Scope images and the focal depth reflects the inexperience of the person taking the pictures at the time... This puppy is actually in my possession at the moment and it is gorgeous!

On a separate note, it should be noted that the symmetry grade assigned by the laboratories is based on consistency of facet shape, alignment and precision of facet junctures and not what we see through scopes like ASET, Ideal Scope, Gems Fantasy scope, etc.
 
Date: 9/30/2009 2:38:38 PM
Author: Todd Gray

Date: 9/29/2009 10:15:00 PM
Author: VRBeauty
I''m seeing some really wonky symmetry in the images of the 2.16 (towards the center of the stone) -- which doesn''t make sense if it''s an infinity with ideal-ideal rating for symmetry. Could the images have been taken off-center?
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Good eye VRB! The images are early Infinity photographs that need to be re-done, the diamond is obviously tilted in the ASET and Ideal Scope images and the focal depth reflects the inexperience of the person taking the pictures at the time... This puppy is actually in my possession at the moment and it is gorgeous!

On a separate note, it should be noted that the symmetry grade assigned by the laboratories is based on consistency of facet shape, alignment and precision of facet junctures and not what we see through scopes like ASET, Ideal Scope, Gems Fantasy scope, etc.
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Thought that might be the case, thanks for confirming Todders!
 
Todd, the slight curve in the tips of the V in the Hearts image is also an artifact of the image taking?
 
Date: 9/30/2009 2:59:11 PM
Author: Stone-cold11
Todd, the slight curve in the tips of the V in the Hearts image is also an artifact of the image taking?
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The images provided by Infinity for this stone are not up to par with their current abilities, no doubt that the diamond would be photographed again if it were in Antwerp instead of the states... Here''s the Hearts image from our system:




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Nice, thanks.
 
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