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I like the rings from Pearlman''s and think you should seriously look at the NSC'' s settings. Getting the stone and setting from the same place would make your life easier! Plus I think that they will insure it during the setting.

I like the other rings you posted but some look like RHR''s not very engagementish at all. You do want it to look like an engagement ring right? Don''t mean to sound snooty I really am just asking.

Diane please stop posting those FAB stones. I just know I can''t afford to get interested in Sapphires!
 
mrssalvo: Those are indeed great, but the sizes are all about 1 size to small. My GF is closer to 6-1/2.

Dee*Jay: Don't worry. I truly am thankful for advice on what is 'timeless' and what are fads that come and go.

dtnyc: Thanks for that bit of info on the Mohs scale. The local jewler did say that in order to keep a sapphire shiny like new it would need re polishing about every 10 years or so.I find it hard to believe that the differnce between 1 and 9 is greater than between 9 and 10.

diane5006: Those are indeed very good looking. But OHH the price. LOL!

Stone Hunter: Yes, I'd like it to look like an engagement ring. That's why I lean towards the clean ring look.

(AA)

(A good halo setting.. still looking.. If she prefers round sidestones, I'll keep looking. There's also a couple good triangle (trillian, half-moon) settings)


(BB)

(still the slight twist look. Actually this is very close to a drawing I did before I saw all the stuller designs. Does this still look like a cheap walmart twist?)

So, what do you guys think?

Thanks for all the input. I'm glad you guys don't kick users out for too many posts.
-OnlyForHer
 
I am voting the for halo- but I would want the stone to be more inside the halo. I think you need to protect a sapphire more than a diamond.

It''s tough to find pictures of the twist-y settings in white metal. I think that the twist style settings were much more in fashion when yellow gold was popular- I am sure like everything they will come back.
 
Another vote for the halo! And I do love the cushiony shape of AA with the cushion shaped sapphires that diane posted.

BTW, here is a pic of Londonblue's gorgeous sapphire ring with a halo. Not exactly the same style as the one you posted, but it gives you a good idea of how stunning a sapphire surrounded by diamonds looks.
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I don''t like BB for an engagement ring. It doesn''t look classic to me.

I do like AA and think that Sapphires look stunning surrounded by diamonds!! Somewhere on PS there is a thread that says that halos are a fad. You might search for it. What does your girlfriend like? AA and BB are very different rings.
 
I perfer AA over BB. I''m not a huge fan of halos, but do think that they are classic. If you look at antique ring sites that carry real antiques (not reproductions) there seem to be a lot of halo-like styles from the 1920-1930s.

Does she have a peference?
 
I had a nice long talk with her last night. I asked her if she meant the halo style when she said ''surrounded by diamonds''. She replied no, she liked the ones with a diamond on each side better. So anyway, I''m getting closer!

Also, her finger size is closer to 8-3/4. I don''t want to get something too small, as it will look small on her finger.

So, I''m targetting a style of a three-ring setting, with either oval, round, or coushin in the center. I''d like the sapphire to be above 1ct, and up to $1300. That leaves about $1500 for the two diamonds and setting.

I''m targetting three rounds, or oval with rounds, or, well, whatever looks good. ;-) Some of the trillian sides on NSCs website look good, but are really small. I DO want to be able to see the diamonds as well as the sapphire. LOL!

thanks,
-OnlyforHer
 
My ring finger is about the same size as your girls and I am thinking that I would like to get an 8x6 oval with 5x3 pear sides. Check with whiteflash for a quote on their trinity three stone with pears, I got a quote for one in white gold and it included the diamond pears and was in line with what you are looking at spending for the setting. I was pleasantly surprised. Just my .02 cents. Mokey
 
It''s good that you got her to clarify the surrounded by diamonds statement! I think that the combinations you''re thinking of sound very classic and beautiful. My favorites would be three rounds or any of those center shapes with pear sides. Yummy. Unless she expressly tells you that she wants a swirly ring, I''d try to avoid that. They do look dated to me (late 80''s & early 90''s) and I don''t know girls my age (early-mid 20''s) who are getting them.

I''m just going to throw these pictures in because I''ve had my eye on them, until FI told me that he wanted a diamond and not a gemstone center. I still love them though!

Tiffany''s:
engagement_three_sapphdia.jpg


The Natural Sapphire Company:
J444_2_th

J444_3_th


Dee Jay''s sapphire three-stone is absolutely gorgeous in person. (In fact, I think that she''s partly responsible for my recent sapphire obsession.
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By the way, Onlyforher, you should probably ask her about her metal preference. That''s another area in which I feel that most people have a clear preference.
 
Those pics look good.

I''ve got a quote from WhiteFlash, for more basic one of their rings in 18k white gold, pear sides totalling .7ct, and enough room in the center to put the B819 horizontally. The quote was $2600.

Ouch, that is definately out of my price range, unless I go with a much lighter colored or smaller sapphire.

I''ve emailed info@ the NSC (replyed to Steven''s e-mail), but I don''t get any response.... Perhaps info@ isn''t correct.

I''m visiting her this weekend. ;-)

I''ll update when I can get a couple other quotes.

-OnlyForHer
 
Onlyforher-
another way you can maximize the size of an oval stone and make it look bigger and cover more of her finger is to have it set east-west or "horizontally." This would also protect the ends of the oval and perhaps allow you to get away w/ smaller diamonds on the side- just an idea.
 
Date: 9/23/2006 12:11:31 AM
Author: onlyforher
Those pics look good.


I''ve got a quote from WhiteFlash, for more basic one of their rings in 18k white gold, pear sides totalling .7ct, and enough room in the center to put the B819 horizontally. The quote was $2600.


Ouch, that is definately out of my price range, unless I go with a much lighter colored or smaller sapphire.


I''ve emailed info@ the NSC (replyed to Steven''s e-mail), but I don''t get any response.... Perhaps info@ isn''t correct.


I''m visiting her this weekend. ;-)


I''ll update when I can get a couple other quotes.


-OnlyForHer

Isn''t your budget $2500? That is not that far off. Maybe just lower the ct of the diamond will do the trick. I rather have smaller diamond sidestones that a poorer quality sapphire IMHO.
 
Date: 9/21/2006 9:16:09 AM
Author: Dee*Jay
Another vote for the halo! And I do love the cushiony shape of AA with the cushion shaped sapphires that diane posted.

BTW, here is a pic of Londonblue''s gorgeous sapphire ring with a halo. Not exactly the same style as the one you posted, but it gives you a good idea of how stunning a sapphire surrounded by diamonds looks.
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when I first saw this pic I thought the halo ring had a twist in it and I thought, wow, he could do that! It would combine the two and give a totally unique look while still using the currently popular halo. Picture a halo where the band goes from say the upper left hand corner around the finger andmeets up at the lower right. I can think of about 6 different designs you could do with this.

Personally I like the twist one and as long as the stone is a gorgeous stone I don''t think it screams wallmart. I''ve seen so many halos here it''s nice to see things that are different :)
 
Date: 9/23/2006 12:11:31 AM
Author: onlyforher
Those pics look good.

I''ve got a quote from WhiteFlash, for more basic one of their rings in 18k white gold, pear sides totalling .7ct, and enough room in the center to put the B819 horizontally. The quote was $2600.

Ouch, that is definately out of my price range, unless I go with a much lighter colored or smaller sapphire.

I''ve emailed info@ the NSC (replyed to Steven''s e-mail), but I don''t get any response.... Perhaps info@ isn''t correct.

I''m visiting her this weekend. ;-)

I''ll update when I can get a couple other quotes.

-OnlyForHer
That is not close to the quote I got....mine was more of your setting budget you stated. My request was for 14k white gold and .30 total weight pears, so maybe you could adjust your needs some to make it fit in your budget. Just a thought. Don''t give up you on what you really want. Best of luck. Mokey
 
Dtnyc: Great idea! If you re read my post, I think you''ll see that that is what the quote was for. I think someone else suggusted it before, so I Was just following up on that. I mainly did it for the $$, protection, and size. ;-)

Tacori: My total budget was going to be $2,500, but I''ve upped it to closer to $3000. That is the center sapphire AND the setting w/ diamonds. The quote from WhiteFlsh was JUST the setting w/ Diamonds, and did not include the sapphire (another $1300), making the total closer too $3,900 (way over my target price $$)

I''ve replied with a request on what size pear''s they can put in the setting for a total price from them for $1600. We''ll see what they reply with.

Meanwhile, I''m trying to get a quote from Steven @ NSC, but whenever I reply to one of the e-mails he sends me, he never replies back. When I use the form on the webpage, I get a fairly quick response. Perhaps the Steven@ e-mail address doesn''t work so well.

Thanks ya''ll for your patiance. ;-)

I had a great time this weekend with her. ;-)

I''ll update this when I hear back from Steve and WhiteFlash.

-OnlyForHer
 
UPDATE: WhiteFlash said they couldn't do it for that price.
Bill Pearlman says it would look better balenced up and down. The thing is, she's already mentiond that she'd rather have a round if it means less chance of it chipping. He said that he could do it with pears about .2 - .25 each, clarity VS, and G-H colors. It sounds good, but only thing I'm concerned about is all the extra shipping buying the diamond from NSC, shipping to pearlmans, them shipping it to me. It seems it'd be easier to just have NSC do it and ship it to me. Now if only they'd respond to those quote requests! :0

What do you guys think on the rotation? Do you have any good photos of a horizontal sapphire setting with pears on either side? Does it still spell 'timeless' to you?

Thanks again,
-OnlyForHer
 
an oval with pears would be too horizontally spready.

timeless-if you can imagine Tiffany or Harry Winston doing it, then it's timeless.
 
Only for her --

Not sure if this is totally not appealing to you...

But Whiteflash could do a comparable setting with 30 point pear sapphires in platinum for about $1300 (I got a quote for that a few weeks ago)

I know you have a sapphire center stone picked out, but I think it would be really pretty with all sapphires -- maybe you''ll disagree, maybe everyone will say -- NO diamonds?? HUH??

I figured I''d throw it out there just as an option

Best of luck!

btw: have you tried calling Natural Sapphire? They were really good about answering my emails and calls... Maybe it''s vacation week for them?

Aussie
 
Arg, login timeout is a pain.

Ok, I''m almost giving up on the oval idea, as she''s active, so parrellel with finger wouldn''t be the best because of chipping, yet the other direction spreads it out a bit much.

How much does it cost to have a stone that size re-cut? I was thinking if it did chip, we could have it re-cut....

Ok, here are my other options if I''m not going with the oval idea.
Round ~ B737 (ok, so not quite round, but very close!)

round, round, round ( oOo )
pear, round, pear ( )
Trillian, Round, Trillian ( )
square, square, square (as in http://www.signedpieces.com/item.cfm?item_id=4353 )

With a ring design like http://www.pearlmansjewelers.com/jewelry-designers/pearlmans-collection/rings/51EE1/30/ (except with round in center, not pear)
51EE13.jpg

OR
J444

What do you guys think?

I''m getting much closer now...

-Only For Her
 
I like pear, round, pear. I think it is a timeless and classic look. Sorry I misunderstood your post. I thought WF''s quote was for the finished ring
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Now I understand!
 
Onlyforher : )

I like the look of pear/round/pear, or round/round/round... I don't much like the square/square/square look, but that's just me. The trill/round/trill looks too "pointy" to me -- I like pears as accents better, but that's just me : )

I absolutely LOVE the pearlman's ring you posted (that ruby is Gorgeous!) You'd be still doing a blue sapphire, right? I have no idea what this setting would be, so it's tough to know how this would work with your budget...

Here's a ring from DimendScaasi -- both setting and center stone. I'm sure you could change the side stones to pears, and the center stone to a round if you've totally decided against an oval center stone. I think the price would probably be about the same?? And this way, you wouldn't have to send stones from one vendor to another, with shipping/iinsurance, etc.

$3390: (1.5 carat sapphire, .4ctw diamond sides)...
$2690: (1 carat sapphire, .4ctw diamond sides)...

ETA: http://www.dimendscaasi.com/engagement/Gemstones/pages/1CB.asp

onlyforher dimend scaasi oval center.jpg
 
Oh, nice find aussiegirl23! Now I'm kinda stuck on the 'natural sapphire' deal though. That one sure looks nice.

What do you guys think of this stone for the center?


It's closer to a round, and wouldn't stick out as far for chipping and such. Does it look too shallow? Or like it's an oval trying to be a round but didn't quite make it? The picture's don't look the best, but in the video (B737) it looks good. The ring above (From pearlman) dosn't have a perfectly round in it, and it looks great.

I'm getting quotes from Pearlman and NSC with pear sidestones in the range of .2 -.25 (each), so I think I'm on the right track!

Thanks Tacori, I think pear, round, pear looks best too. Only now its pear, almost round, pear. ;-)
-Only For Her
 
I like this sapphire as it''s one of the fatter ovals, not one of the longer, thinner ones. It''s not a round -- but very beautiful in its own right. Honestly, it''s gorgeous -- beautiful color, and yes the video looks snazzy!

I think this set with about .2-.25 pears on each side would be fabulous! I also like the idea of getting the sapphire from the NSC -- cool that they specialize in that, and just that!

Hope you get your quotes soon : ) and YAY for making progress!

Aussie
 
Ok, I''m on the last leg of this journey (I hope)!

Now my $$ cap is at 3,400, and I''d like some opinions on what looks better. Sapphire with pear diamond sides, or diamond with pear sapphire sides. here are the photos and specs:

(A) Center sapphire (B737) .9ct, (6.31 X 5.50 X 3.10) w/ 1/2 ctw pear diamonds that Steven Bliss said he''d personally be proud of, in 18kt WhiteGold


(B) Center Diamond (Round 0.74ct Diamond G SI1) with 1/2 ctw sapphires (metal: palladium)


I''m leaning towards the sapphire center one, but wish it could be done in palladium.
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What do you guys think?

-OnlyForHer
 
Update: NSC''s policy on yellowing within a year:

Here''s a snip of an e-mail I sent him, reguarding 18kt White gold.
"What would we do if the ring were to go yellow in under a year? Do you
have some sort of policy on that?"

He replied with "I am so sure that this will not happen, I will be happy to remake the ring
for you free of charge. ..."

That sounds like a good deal to me. ;-)

Comments?

-OnlyForHer
 
I''d go with the sapphire center stone... I think it''s elegant and unique... that''s just me : )

best of luck!
Aussie
 
I would definitely go with the sapphire center ring. It is different enough, but yet could be an heirloom piece one day. I love sapphire centers and diamond sides. Of course I am biased because that is what I am getting next year sometime! Mokey
 
Not trying to stir the pot here, BUT since you added to your budget, I think that I would go with this ring that Aussiegirl noted. The reasons are, bigger sapphire, for more finger coverage and also this is a diamond company, so you know the diamonds would be awesome. They also have a good return policy. This is just my 2 cents, but coming from someone that has a bigger finger and is also active, I think I like the flow of this one and it is in your price range. Something to think about. Mokey
Date: 9/26/2006 6:32:31 PM
Author: aussiegirl23
Onlyforher : )

I like the look of pear/round/pear, or round/round/round... I don''t much like the square/square/square look, but that''s just me. The trill/round/trill looks too ''pointy'' to me -- I like pears as accents better, but that''s just me : )

I absolutely LOVE the pearlman''s ring you posted (that ruby is Gorgeous!) You''d be still doing a blue sapphire, right? I have no idea what this setting would be, so it''s tough to know how this would work with your budget...

Here''s a ring from DimendScaasi -- both setting and center stone. I''m sure you could change the side stones to pears, and the center stone to a round if you''ve totally decided against an oval center stone. I think the price would probably be about the same?? And this way, you wouldn''t have to send stones from one vendor to another, with shipping/iinsurance, etc.

$3390: (1.5 carat sapphire, .4ctw diamond sides)...
$2690: (1 carat sapphire, .4ctw diamond sides)...

ETA: http://www.dimendscaasi.com/engagement/Gemstones/pages/1CB.asp
 
The diamond coverage from NSC would be about the same weight wise. I think I'll stick with the NSC one, because of the 'natural un-heated' appeal. The stone itself is more rare than a diamond (Diamonds are everywhere), and to go with a heat-treated sapphire would seem like a compromise.. Even if I was able to get a little bigger for a little less $$.

What do others of you think? Is the value of an unheated stone to be desired? If not, then why is DaBeer so big on 'natural' diamonds?

Thanks,
-OnlyForHer
 
onlyforher...

just so you know, the sapphires used in that DimendScassi setting would also be natural and untreated - not lab-created or treated...

not pushing one or the other, just want you to know the facts!

And no, I don''t work for them -- I just called and asked about this recently
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good luck : )
Aussie
 
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