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I have two rings that I am thinking of buying. I like one better for the diamond quality and the other for the Tacori setting and larger (slightly) center stone.
The Tacori is EGL certified 1.73 ct center H color SI2.
Weight 1.73 CT
Shape ROUND BRILLIANT
Color H
Clarity SI2
Measurements 7.85 x 7.8 x 4.71 mm
Depth 60.2%
Table 59%
Crown 10.9%
Pavilion 44.8%
Crown Angle 27.2°
Pavilion Angle 42°
Girdle MEDIUM TO SL. THICK FACETED
Polish GOOD
Symmetry GOOD
Fluorescence N/A
Culet N/A
Cut Grade N/A
Comments
UGS Appraisal Value N/A





The other one is GIA certified 1.58 ct center F color VS1.
Cut-Cornered Square Modified Brilliant
Measurements: 6.76 x 6.71 x 4.54 mm
Carat Weight: 1.58 carat
Color Grade: F
Clarity Grade: VS1
Proportions:
Depth: 67.7%
Table: 79%
Girdle: Slightly Thick to Extremely Thick
Culet: None
Finish:
Polish: Very Good
Symmetry: Very Good
Fluorescence: None
Comments:
Surface graining is not shown.
1.58%20diamond.jpg
 
Not any where NEAR as educated on diamonds as the vast majority of posters are here --- but the GIA cert would be my selection. It also has better colour, clarity, polish and symmetry. I'd defer to the expert PSers who can give you input on the %'s but again, in my opinion, #2 seems the better stone at first glance. Hopefully... it will be after further inspection.

Look at both yourself and you'll get a better sense of what you can accept as your diamond. Good luck!
 
Here is the photo of the Tacori Ring and the better quality diamond ring.
Does the last image of the F color GIA look like it has bubbles in it or could that be camera?
Thanks!!!!!!!!

Tacori%20Ring.jpg

1.58%20diamond.jpgTacori%202_0.jpg
1.58%20GIA.jpg
 
dmj4|1325218368|3091236 said:
I have two rings that I am thinking of buying. I like one better for the diamond quality and the other for the Tacori setting and larger (slightly) center stone.
The Tacori is EGL certified 1.73 ct center H color SI2.
Weight 1.73 CT
Shape ROUND BRILLIANT
Color H
Clarity SI2
Measurements 7.85 x 7.8 x 4.71 mm
Depth 60.2%
Table 59%
Crown 10.9%
Pavilion 44.8%
Crown Angle 27.2°
Pavilion Angle 42°
Girdle MEDIUM TO SL. THICK FACETED
Polish GOOD
Symmetry GOOD
Fluorescence N/A
Culet N/A
Cut Grade N/A
Comments
UGS Appraisal Value N/A
no good... :knockout:
 
Hi Dancing Fire;
Do you like the other one?
Thanks!!!!
 
Question...are these for yourself or for someone else? Are they for an engagement ring? These are two vastly different styles. I love one and do not care for the other at all. I am not happy with the diamonds, though.
 
It is for me. I am 53 years old and I've wanted a diamond for years. I want at least a 1.5 ct. My husband bought me one for Christmas at Kay's. It was a pretty ring with 10 stones, but the center was a .70 and I wanted a larger center stone. He knew I probably had something else in mind, but he thought that Kay's would be a good reputable store to buy one for a present. He knew we could take it back.

What do you see wrong with the 1.58 F GIA stone?

Thanks!!!!!!!!!!
 
Okay, well we are close to the same age and I totally understand! I actually found this site when I was looking for a diamond ring for our 30th anniversary a few years ago! There is sooo much to learn here about diamond quality. Please take a little time and try to get the best diamond you can. Look at our Show Me the Bling forum and narrow down what you love. I strongly advise doing some research because it is easy to overpay for a mediocre to poor stone.

It is midnight here and I can't keep my eyes open much longer, but I will be happy to come back tomorrow to give you some more tips!

FYI, I adore that Tacori setting!!! But you could do much better for the diamond. Is it being sold second hand? That can be a great way to get a good buy, but you don't want to get a diamond that is poor quality. And without a GIA cert, we really don't know what that stone really is in terms of color or clarity, but the measurements don't look good.

Maybe some others will come and post tonight, but I will check in tomorrow and see if I can help you!

Start looking at this thread with the newest posts and go backwards:

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/the-forum-engagement-ring-folder-eye-candy.5429/page-250']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/the-forum-engagement-ring-folder-eye-candy.5429/page-250[/URL]

(Oh, and you were smart to return the one to Kay's. Many people don't know, but you can get better quality elsewhere.)
 
diamondseeker2006|1325221904|3091276 said:
Okay, well we are close to the same age and I totally understand! I actually found this site when I was looking for a diamond ring for our 30th anniversary a few years ago! There is sooo much to learn here about diamond quality. Please take a little time and try to get the best diamond you can. Look at our Show Me the Bling forum and narrow down what you love. I strongly advise doing some research because it is easy to overpay for a mediocre to poor stone.

It is midnight here and I can't keep my eyes open much longer, but I will be happy to come back tomorrow to give you some more tips!

FYI, I adore that Tacori setting!!! But you could do much better for the diamond. Is it being sold second hand? That can be a great way to get a good buy, but you don't want to get a diamond that is poor quality. And without a GIA cert, we really don't know what that stone really is in terms of color or clarity, but the measurements don't look good.

Maybe some others will come and post tonight, but I will check in tomorrow and see if I can help you!

Start looking at this thread with the newest posts and go backwards:

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/the-forum-engagement-ring-folder-eye-candy.5429/page-250']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/the-forum-engagement-ring-folder-eye-candy.5429/page-250[/URL]

(Oh, and you were smart to return the one to Kay's. Many people don't know, but you can get better quality elsewhere.)
Ditto everything she said!
 
Could you share your budget? What style of setting are you looking for?
 
These two rings are used ones. My budget would be up to $14,000 or so, even though these would be appr. $9000. I like a good deal, so used does not bother me. I had rather spend less than $14,000, but a 1.5 Leo at Kay's was about $13,000 to $14,000. Then sales tax at over 9% in my state. It was an H SI1. I felt as if I could do better for that money.
I really don't care so much about the setting right now. Even a plain solitaire setting would be fine. A nice setting is merely a bonus at this point. I want the money in the diamond. I can reset it in a year or two.

Thank for everyone's help!
 
dmj4|1325228094|3091304 said:
These two rings are used ones. My budget would be up to $14,000 or so, even though these would be appr. $9000. I like a good deal, so used does not bother me. I had rather spend less than $14,000, but a 1.5 Leo at Kay's was about $13,000 to $14,000. Then sales tax at over 9% in my state. It was an H SI1. I felt as if I could do better for that money.
I really don't care so much about the setting right now. Even a plain solitaire setting would be fine. A nice setting is merely a bonus at this point. I want the money in the diamond. I can reset it in a year or two.

Thank for everyone's help!
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/1.497-h-si1-round-diamond-ags-104055873015 This would be my choice. Ideal cut. Hearts and Arrows. 1.497 (1.5) carats. 13,716 with a bank wire. Basic white gold solitaire: http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/engagement-rings/solitaire/four-prong-solitaire-14k-white-gold-5342w14

Cut is what makes a diamond sparkle. You don't want to compromise on that. An ideal cut H SI will blow a Kay's H SI out of the water... along with a D IF that's poorly cut.

A round 1.5 carat diamond faces up at 7.4-7.5 mm. Princesses are cut deep and face up at 6.5 at 1.5 carats. So a 1.5 carat round is MUCH larger looking than a princess of the same carat weight.
 
Wow, I will have to say that Gypsy posted a fantastic diamond for you! It is basically a 1.5 ct. stone but since it is .003 carats under, you're getting a discount because there is a bump up in price at 1.5! That is a top cut quality stone and will be outstanding. That was also what I did...get the best diamond I could and set it in a simple setting. But that stone will be gone soon, because the 1.52 H SI1 posted next to it is over $17,000!

I am going to see if I can find any others worth considering, but that is a very strong contender. Brian is like a 4th generation diamond cutter and has stones cut for his company. They specialize in top cut quality stones, as in the top 3%. There are a couple other vendors I want to check, too.
 
Well, I checked Good Old Gold and WhiteFlash who also carry top quality stones, and they don't have anything at 1.5 at your price point without going down in color and/or clarity. I also checked James Allen and they have some excellent cut stones 1.5 H SI1 that could be alternatives if the one at Brian Gavin gets sold, but I would say that they'll mostly be a notch below the one at BG, but still very nice. You just have to go to a little more effort there because they don't supply idealscope images and you have to request them (they limit you to a total of three).

When I came looking for my diamond, I actually was looking in the 1.4-1.49 range because I knew great deals could be found there. It is extremely rare to find a 1.49 especially in ideal cut. I looked for months and ended up going over 1.5 and just had to up my budget. If you are even remotely interested, you should at least put this stone on hold because it will be gone since there are many lurkers on this forum. And my diamond did not come from BG, so I am not pushing the purchase for any other reason than it is a great deal for you. I did have him recut a small family diamond and had them set it in a pendant, and it looked 100% better after the recut!

Oh, but WAIT!!! I found one that is larger and it is just a few hundred more!!!!

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/1.707-h-si1-round-diamond-ags-bl-104055873016

These are discounted because the industry discounts for fluorescence which has no negative effects whatsoever! There are a few stones that can be milky looking in certain light, but Brian does not include these in his selection. So you are getting a larger size, ideal cut, for MUCH less than you could get the stone without the fluorescence! In fact, I purposely look for these!!!
 
I am looking at the diamonds you have posted for me.
Thank you, they are all very nice.

I also like a nice three stone ring, but I would want the center to be at least 1-1.25 ct.
 
When I look at the diamonds on the websites, what is it in them that shows up blue?
The ones that don't have florescence also have blue areas.
Also, somewhere on the BGavin page it says you will receive an eye-clean report, but I'm not seeing it.
With an SI1, I would like to know if it is eye-clean.

Thanks again!
 
If diamonds without fluor. are showing blue, it is just a reflection of something blue in the environment. Even fluor. stones are going to appear white and not show the blue unless you are in a room with a black light!

I would call either vendor and ask about specific stones being eyeclean before purchasing. They have these stones in-house and can pull them and examine for you.

You're very welcome! You actually have some great choices!
 
Should Strong or Very Strong Florescense be a concern?
I had read before that low to medium shouldn't be too much of a concern, but I had stayed away from Strong.

Also, is there a huge difference between and Ideal, ideal signature and excellent cuts?

Would you go to excellent instead of ideal signature to get a larger stone?

Thanks
 
The second one is my choice.
 
Three things.

1. I would put the 1.49 BGD stone on hold along with the BGD Blue 1.7 stone. Brian examines all his Blue line stones individually and will NOT put his name on a stone that shows ill effects from Fl.

2. I would call BGD up and ask to speak to Brian about the 1.7 and the 1.49. Ask him about the FL and ask him about eyeclean, and just listen-- he is very honest-- then decide what you want to do. Both have great upgrade policies, make sure you ask what the upgrade policy on each is (the have different policies as they are from different lines). You can also have both sent to you and decide on the one you like the best in person. They have a great return policy.

3. I would get the largest center stone you can now in the cheapest setting you can get and wear it for a while. Then once you have your diamond see if you love it as it solitaire or if you think sidestones are a good idea. If you want sidestones there are a ton of options: rounds, baguettes, and pears being the most popular but Cadillacs, Callas, traps, halfmoons, trilliants all being wonderful options as well. Then once you have checked out your options you can decide on a 'forever' setting-- whether that be a much nicer solitaire setting or a three stone.
 
dmj4|1325292402|3091852 said:
Would you go to excellent instead of ideal signature to get a larger stone?

Thanks

I would, and did, get a super ideal cut (AGS 000) at the expense of size. I don't want a big, lifeless stone. I want a sparkly, flashy, fiery stone that takes your breath away. You'd be surprised by how big a really lively stone looks. It's mesmerizing, and well worth sacrificing a bit on size. Sometimes when men post here looking to get an engagement ring on an extremely small budget, something has to give, and he may need to go down a bit in cut quality, but it sounds like you have an ample budget and some ideal options within that budget, so it's not necessary for you to compromise on cut quality. And I would absolutely trust Brian Gavin's diamonds - he's actually a fifth generation diamond cutter, and cut my e-ring stone. There's a wikipedia page on him, if you're curious. Those stones are perfection.
 
Gypsy|1325303593|3092032 said:
Three things.

1. I would put the 1.49 BGD stone on hold along with the BGD Blue 1.7 stone. Brian examines all his Blue line stones individually and will NOT put his name on a stone that shows ill effects from Fl.

2. I would call BGD up and ask to speak to Brian about the 1.7 and the 1.49. Ask him about the FL and ask him about eyeclean, and just listen-- he is very honest-- then decide what you want to do. Both have great upgrade policies, make sure you ask what the upgrade policy on each is (the have different policies as they are from different lines). You can also have both sent to you and decide on the one you like the best in person. They have a great return policy.

3. I would get the largest center stone you can now in the cheapest setting you can get and wear it for a while. Then once you have your diamond see if you love it as it solitaire or if you think sidestones are a good idea. If you want sidestones there are a ton of options: rounds, baguettes, and pears being the most popular but Cadillacs, Callas, traps, halfmoons, trilliants all being wonderful options as well. Then once you have checked out your options you can decide on a 'forever' setting-- whether that be a much nicer solitaire setting or a three stone.

This is exactly what I would do, personally.

And to answer your question, regarding the WF stone that was Excellent cut, I think it was only excellent because polish was excellent. It had no flaws in cut that were visible. It was a good buy because of that. But I would go for the best solitaire stone possible, as Gypsy said, and later decide if you want to add side stones. Both of those BG stones are an excellent deal. I am curious to see if they are both still there.
 
Neither.
 
How do I put them on hold?
Brian, himself, most likely will not be there until Tuesday.
Thanks!
 
By phone or email... they will confirm back to you if they have them still.
 
I would definitely try email. I know that I have been told regarding some other vendors that you can just click the "buy now" on the site. But I haven't tried that on the BG site and don't want to accidentally reserve a stone in trying it out! I'd probably put the request in an email and leave the message on the phone, too. Name the two specific stones in case someone calls after you. Tell them you want them checked to see if they are eyeclean. That buys you a little time to decide which you'd rather have. They are the kinds of stones I like to find. I hate to sound so overly enthusiastic but either of these is going to save you a lot of money over a similar stone without the one factor that is the moneysaver.
 
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