Date: 12/16/2005 9:17:34 AM
Author:treysar
what i mean to say is, my hussbands grandfather passed away. EW: My husband is Treysar III, his Grandfather was Treysar Sr. His Father is Treysar Jr. Is he now Treysar Jr? Or does it stay the same?
Actually, it is completely different in our family.Date: 12/16/2005 2:03:49 PM
Author: AGBF
This is purely a matter of etiquette, not law. Suffixes are not part of one''s name unless he is actually named, ''So-and-so III'' or ''Prince So-and-so'' on his birth certificate or has a legal name change to that name. Only crazy celebrity parents usually make ''III'' or ''Prince'' a part of their children''s names. Normal people use the usage delineated below.
The only person who is supposed to be called, ''Junior'' is the son of someone with the exact same name. Once his father dies, he is no longer a ''Junior''. However, there is absolutely no reason to call him, ''Senior'' unless he also has a son of the exact same name!!!
If the former, ''Junior'' does have a son of the same name he beomes ''Senior'' and his son moves up from ''III'' to ''Junior''. Although it is true that some people with the suffixes, ''Junior'' and those with numbers after their names prefer to keep those numbers for the rest of their lives to differentiate themselves from other family members, this is technically incorrect etiquette.
If someone other than his son is given a man''s name in his honor (a nephew, for example), he use the suffix ''II'' in lieu of, ''Junior''. Even if there is no ''Junior''.
Deb
Date: 12/16/2005 4:42:31 PM
Author: pebbles
Actually, it is completely different in our family.
My husband''s legal name is Pebbles Jr. -- that is what is on his birth certificate. Our son''s legal name is Pebbles III, and on his birth certificate it has Pebbles Jr. as his father. My husband''s dad (Pebbles Sr. in this case) is still alive; when he dies my husband and son cannot just arbitrarily become Sr. and Jr. respectively unless they want to go through the hassle of legally changing their names.
Yeah, that''s the way it usually is. Same in our family. You see this more in old southern familes when you have say "Pebbles the 15th".Date: 12/16/2005 4:42:31 PM
Author: pebbles
Actually, it is completely different in our family.Date: 12/16/2005 2:03:49 PM
Author: AGBF
This is purely a matter of etiquette, not law. Suffixes are not part of one''s name unless he is actually named, ''So-and-so III'' or ''Prince So-and-so'' on his birth certificate or has a legal name change to that name. Only crazy celebrity parents usually make ''III'' or ''Prince'' a part of their children''s names. Normal people use the usage delineated below.
The only person who is supposed to be called, ''Junior'' is the son of someone with the exact same name. Once his father dies, he is no longer a ''Junior''. However, there is absolutely no reason to call him, ''Senior'' unless he also has a son of the exact same name!!!
If the former, ''Junior'' does have a son of the same name he beomes ''Senior'' and his son moves up from ''III'' to ''Junior''. Although it is true that some people with the suffixes, ''Junior'' and those with numbers after their names prefer to keep those numbers for the rest of their lives to differentiate themselves from other family members, this is technically incorrect etiquette.
If someone other than his son is given a man''s name in his honor (a nephew, for example), he use the suffix ''II'' in lieu of, ''Junior''. Even if there is no ''Junior''.
Deb
My husband''s legal name is Pebbles Jr. -- that is what is on his birth certificate. Our son''s legal name is Pebbles III, and on his birth certificate it has Pebbles Jr. as his father. My husband''s dad (Pebbles Sr. in this case) is still alive; when he dies my husband and son cannot just arbitrarily become Sr. and Jr. respectively unless they want to go through the hassle of legally changing their names.
FYI - his name really isn''t ''Pebbles'', just using it for an example.
Precisely, as I have seen the confusion in action. In our will, we even name one such namesake w/ SS # & direct naming of relationship.Date: 12/16/2005 6:30:48 PM
Author: pebbles
No offense taken. The reason why we put III on my son''s name is because my husband was confused for his father several times when applying for credit and he got back credit reports that said he had credit cards taken out from the 1970''s, which would have been impossible seeing that my husband was only a toddler then!He had to prove that he was not his father and it was easy enough when he provided his birth certificate with the correct name.
We debated a lot about naming our son the III. In the end it meant a lot to both my husband and his dad so that''s why we did it. I hope our son isn''t mad at us when he''s older!
ETA: When we filled out the application for our son''s birth certificate in the hospital, the registrar recommended that we put the III on it, even though we were going to anyway. She said it saves a lot of trouble in the long run.