AlexPark
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That's what some people say, but IMO it depends on which group of graders were working at the lab for that day.AlexPark|1422550086|3823891 said:I think he should stick with GIA and ask for ASET, idealscope etc. From my personal experience, AGS grades 1 color better than what GIA would grade it as.
What do you think about GIA# 5161722961 for 3900?Dancing Fire|1422554807|3823948 said:That's what some people say, but IMO it depends on which group of graders were working at the lab for that day.AlexPark|1422550086|3823891 said:I think he should stick with GIA and ask for ASET, idealscope etc. From my personal experience, AGS grades 1 color better than what GIA would grade it as.
The cutter is hiding some extra weight in the thick girdle so that it'll hit the .90ct magic mark.nyno2010|1422554922|3823949 said:What do you think about GIA# 5161722961 for 3900?Dancing Fire|1422554807|3823948 said:That's what some people say, but IMO it depends on which group of graders were working at the lab for that day.AlexPark|1422550086|3823891 said:I think he should stick with GIA and ask for ASET, idealscope etc. From my personal experience, AGS grades 1 color better than what GIA would grade it as.
Dancing Fire|1422556419|3823961 said:The cutter is hiding some extra weight in the thick girdle so that it'll hit the .90ct magic mark.nyno2010|1422554922|3823949 said:What do you think about GIA# 5161722961 for 3900?Dancing Fire|1422554807|3823948 said:That's what some people say, but IMO it depends on which group of graders were working at the lab for that day.AlexPark|1422550086|3823891 said:I think he should stick with GIA and ask for ASET, idealscope etc. From my personal experience, AGS grades 1 color better than what GIA would grade it as.
What are your thoughts on these three? Bad deal altogether?Dancing Fire|1422560621|3823998 said:If I were you I'd look for a well cut stone < 90ct somewhere in the .85-.88ct range
IMO, it is not a good idea to buy diamonds just hitting the magic mark (in this case .90ct) you should look for a well cut stone just below .90ctnyno2010|1422560698|3823999 said:What are your thoughts on these three? Bad deal altogether?Dancing Fire|1422560621|3823998 said:If I were you I'd look for a well cut stone < 90ct somewhere in the .85-.88ct range
They are less expensive price per ct.nyno2010|1422560698|3823999 said:What are your thoughts on these three? Bad deal altogether?Dancing Fire|1422560621|3823998 said:If I were you I'd look for a well cut stone < 90ct somewhere in the .85-.88ct range
Why .85-88 exc? Dont those run expensive?
I really appreciate ur help. Just asked him for .85-8. Any other suggestions?Dancing Fire|1422561643|3824019 said:They are less expensive price per ct.nyno2010|1422560698|3823999 said:What are your thoughts on these three? Bad deal altogether?Dancing Fire|1422560621|3823998 said:If I were you I'd look for a well cut stone < 90ct somewhere in the .85-.88ct range
Why .85-88 exc? Dont those run expensive?
I'm going to actually buy from my guy, as opposed to online. I guess im just here to confirm whether or not im getting ripped off!Roqsteady|1422562556|3824031 said:Here's similar color/carat/clarity diamonds I'd take over your options any day of the week at similar price:
https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamonds/view/R86-6SDAXG
Very nice idealscope and decent hearts pattern to boot. Need to check if the very strong blue flourscence has any negative effects. Almost 1000 cheaper than your other options and faces up the same size.
https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamonds/view/R90-FRD917
Better color, cheaper, better cut - and confirmed good light performance with ASET. Plus it's cheaper than your options.
nyno2010|1422562734|3824037 said:I'm going to actually buy from my guy, as opposed to online. I guess im just here to confirm whether or not im getting ripped off!Roqsteady|1422562556|3824031 said:Here's similar color/carat/clarity diamonds I'd take over your options any day of the week at similar price:
https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamonds/view/R86-6SDAXG
Very nice idealscope and decent hearts pattern to boot. Need to check if the very strong blue flourscence has any negative effects. Almost 1000 cheaper than your other options and faces up the same size.
https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamonds/view/R90-FRD917
Better color, cheaper, better cut - and confirmed good light performance with ASET. Plus it's cheaper than your options.
Roqsteady|1422563051|3824040 said:That's fine, we're posting our suggestions so you can use for your reference the quality that you can be getting at the price that you're paying. At 4k you should absolutely be able to get a top notch G/F SI1. Since it sounds like you don't want to explore all the inns and outs of diamond proportions, maybe give your guy a cheat sheet: 62.0% depth or lower, 57% table or lower, 34-35 crown angle, 40.6-41.0 pavilion angle. It's really hard to get a bad diamond in those parameters. There are good diamonds outside of those specs, but it's much harder to find a bad diamond within those specs than it is to find a good diamond outside of them. The most important is probably staying around a 40.6-40.9 pavilion angle
Chrono|1422563414|3824046 said:Roqsteady|1422563051|3824040 said:That's fine, we're posting our suggestions so you can use for your reference the quality that you can be getting at the price that you're paying. At 4k you should absolutely be able to get a top notch G/F SI1. Since it sounds like you don't want to explore all the inns and outs of diamond proportions, maybe give your guy a cheat sheet: 62.0% depth or lower, 57% table or lower, 34-35 crown angle, 40.6-41.0 pavilion angle. It's really hard to get a bad diamond in those parameters. There are good diamonds outside of those specs, but it's much harder to find a bad diamond within those specs than it is to find a good diamond outside of them. The most important is probably staying around a 40.6-40.9 pavilion angle
Then after you have several diamonds that meet these angles and %, use the HCA calculator to double check the results. Having an IS on hand is a plus.
nyno2010|1422539742|3823786 said:Whoa. Thanks for all this help. What diamond do you think should fall in the 3850 range? I mean it pays to repeat that he is doing other work too on the ring itself. Maybe I should ask him for another diamond with a better cut. But which diamond?
UPDATE: just spoke to jeweler and told him whats up. he said he'll look for better stuff. I told him I don't think im being unreasonable since if this stuff is accessible to me, it's definitely accessible to him (hes on 47th street). He thanked me for being explicit and said he's looking. I think, because of the Northeastern snowstorm, certain diamonds that he wanted to show me, did not come in. He showed me what he had, and me, a complete know nothing in diamonds, decided to go with it. What diamond should I be looking for, what parameters?
edited for clarity (pardon the pun)
nyno2010|1422562734|3824037 said:I'm going to actually buy from my guy, as opposed to online. I guess im just here to confirm whether or not im getting ripped off!
RockyRacoon|1422575945|3824127 said:nyno2010|1422562734|3824037 said:I'm going to actually buy from my guy, as opposed to online. I guess im just here to confirm whether or not im getting ripped off!
Yes - you are getting ripped off.
The real question is... now what?
You don't seem receptive to better options offered here, even though they are quantitatively and qualitatively superior to the offering from 'your guy'.
If you want the best deal on a well-cut stone, cut out the middleman (your 'guy'), and get a stone from an online vendor (some have shops on 47th - not street level).
nyno2010|1422581624|3824157 said:RockyRacoon|1422575945|3824127 said:nyno2010|1422562734|3824037 said:I'm going to actually buy from my guy, as opposed to online. I guess im just here to confirm whether or not im getting ripped off!
Yes - you are getting ripped off.
The real question is... now what?
You don't seem receptive to better options offered here, even though they are quantitatively and qualitatively superior to the offering from 'your guy'.
If you want the best deal on a well-cut stone, cut out the middleman (your 'guy'), and get a stone from an online vendor (some have shops on 47th - not street level).
I am quite receptive. So much so that i told the jeweler to screw the first diamond. I told him the parameters and he gave me 2186047647 for 4000. This a ripoff? ?
Dancing Fire|1422583297|3824172 said:
nyno2010|1422589991|3824230 said:Smallish. How about GIA 2186047647 for $4k?