What is the name of this type of setting?

[Mico]

Hello all,
I'm new to the forum, so forgive me if this isn't placed in the appropriate place. Can anyone help me categorize this ring? I absolutely love the style and would like to browse through others like it, but no matter what I do I can't seem to use the right search words in any search. I have found ONE other similar, but it was after going through millions of rings and ended up confusing me even more.

As a side note, it is not a halo style, when viewing the ring from the top it looks like a plain solitaire. I initially thought I was headed towards the halo setting and in my quest for this ring have WAY too many options right now.

Much appreciated in advance!

 

[Amys Bling]

not sure of the name but it reminds me of these:

http://jewelsbyericagrace.smugmug.c...ied-205/14113210_Xzk22B#!i=1060009289&k=hPJfZ

http://jewelsbyericagrace.smugmug.c...olitaire/13197667_hDLW3L#!i=993361170&k=KFMf6

http://jewelsbyericagrace.smugmug.c...olitaire/12794553_8DFVw7#!i=821505627&k=UGdN2

 

[Mico]

Thanks for your reply!
Funny how you posted the third one, I found that about a week or two ago and stuck it into my (now too many) choices, but I keep coming back to the one in the first post.

Others I've found: (i like the first more than the second, but need to see in person)
http://www.ritani.com/diamond_engagement_rings/item/438/in_category/1

http://www.ritani.com/diamond_engagement_rings/item/1330/in_category/1

my boyfriend says i should just stop looking online and go look at rings on my hand at a B&M, but I'd like to get an idea of what stores carry what I would like prior to heading out.

 

[Amys Bling]

You should go see what you like you like on your hand- plus it's fun

 

[Mico]

I currently live in a small town, and the last time we went to look we didn't have many options (2 main stream stores you see on TV with no originality). We're headed to DC mid march and planned on looking then, but that's tooooo long to sit idle .

As a side note, any reccs on places to stop by in DC from the forum to see rings? I never really invested time in learning anything about diamonds and now that I've learned I may not only be getting one in the future, but have a hand at helping choose it - I'm a little overwhelmed.

Thanks again!

 

[Gypsy]

I love settings like this one, but don't care for this one as the stone is set wrong and too high or is too big for the head.

I would describe it as a pave solitaire with a pave collar in the head under where the stone sits.

 

[Mico]

I agree, I like how simple the first one I posted is, but debate on whether I want just a plain ring. I also disliked how high it sat. I haven't been able to find a vendor that has a similar ring, but I will search for those key words tonight and see what I find . Thanks!

 

[mrssalvo]

Bailey Banks and Biddle used to have a plain setting with that design too. I agree with Gypsy's description and have heard it called a "collar."

 

[rubybeth]

I agree, I like how simple the first one I posted is, but debate on whether I want just a plain ring. I also disliked how high it sat. I haven't been able to find a vendor that has a similar ring, but I will search for those key words tonight and see what I find . Thanks!

It kind of reminds me of rings like the Vatche Caroline that have diamonds in the head/on the connecting bars. There are some good photos of it in this thread:

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/my-new-upgrade-in-the-vatche-caroline-thank-you-gog.128033/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/my-new-upgrade-in-the-vatche-caroline-thank-you-gog.128033/[/URL]

If you got more of a solitaire look, then you could pair it with whatever bands you like.

 

[Amys Bling]

Never heard collar before!

 

[Mico]

Bailey Banks and Biddle used to have a plain setting with that design too. I agree with Gypsy's description and have heard it called a "collar."

Thanks for the tip! I've found a couple more I like from there, when I get home i'll post the links (on my phone from work now), but I always seem to love parts of rings and never the whole. Is that normal? Haha


As a side note, couldn't find more with the search term collar. I don't want to bog down the forum but if people would like I can post the similar settings I've found I'd other are interested in this type. It seems to be unique and simple and the same time, which I love

 

[jetgirl]

i've also been looking for simple rings with a "collar".

a. jaffe makes a beautiful one in diamond & sapphire:

 

[DCdiamondgirl]

As a side note, any reccs on places to stop by in DC from the forum to see rings? I never really invested time in learning anything about diamonds and now that I've learned I may not only be getting one in the future, but have a hand at helping choose it - I'm a little overwhelmed.

Hi nicstx! I. Gorman and The Tiny Jewel Box are two great DC jewelry stores to check out if you want some originality!

 

[Amys Bling]

i've also been looking for simple rings with a "collar".

a. jaffe makes a beautiful one in diamond & sapphire:

I'd call this a full bezel setting

 

[Gypsy]

Oh crap, I should have clarified. I pulled "collar" out of my... well, you know. What I meant is, if *I* had to describe it that's how I would do it. Not that the industry describes it that way. SORRY~

 

[I like ice]

I think this is a "pave basket". Very pretty

 

[Deactivated member 42515]

Mmm mmm, dunno what it's called but she's quite a looker

 

[Mico]

As a side note, any reccs on places to stop by in DC from the forum to see rings? I never really invested time in learning anything about diamonds and now that I've learned I may not only be getting one in the future, but have a hand at helping choose it - I'm a little overwhelmed.

Hi nicstx! I. Gorman and The Tiny Jewel Box are two great DC jewelry stores to check out if you want some originality!

thanks for the heads up! I looked at their online sites and will pass on the info to my hunny .

i've also been looking for simple rings with a "collar".

a. jaffe makes a beautiful one in diamond & sapphire:

this one is not delicate enough for my taste. It's so odd how I can't put what I want into words. The first picture is the closest I could find to what I was looking for... with a few minor modifications (like pave vs. plain band or lowering how the stone sits). I don't want this to turn into a custom made set because it takes the surprise out of what may be an exciting proposal. I just want to find the picture of what I want, forward it along so he knows my taste, and be done with it... until I'm blinded by something sparkly .

Traditional with a twist is all he knows so far... and the random rings i've stuck on my pinterest, I tried searching for "pave basket" and found more "bezel" type settings. I might just have to give him the picture i posted, mention the things I don't like... and walk away.

I'll let you all know how the ring shopping goes! As far as I know, we can't take pictures in store, right?

 

[Gypsy]

I know exactly what you want. There is a Richard Landi split shank that I almost bought that has it exactly.



And top down:



Handshot (wow my nails were obnoxious then)



It was gorgeous, but expensive. I really loved the look though, so I understand your fascination.

My best advice if you can't find what you are looking for is: save up and go custom. I would be happy to help you if you go custom to make sure you get exactly what you want.

 

[Mico]

Yes! That's the most similar I've seen! (without the split shank). Any idea what it's called?

I looked through the site and couldn't find it to search the description.

I think there may not be an actual term to search... and may take you up on your offer in the future with making my own setting , but I'd like to think I would keep my original engagement ring. I'm pretty sappy and emotional when you break it all down, and the man of my dreams just made it known that he's likely going to propose in the near future...

 

[Gypsy]

Yes! That's the most similar I've seen! (without the split shank). Any idea what it's called?

I looked through the site and couldn't find it to search the description.

I think there may not be an actual term to search... and may take you up on your offer in the future with making my own setting , but I'd like to think I would keep my original engagement ring. I'm pretty sappy and emotional when you break it all down, and the man of my dreams just made it known that he's likely going to propose in the near future...

That Richard Landi is not listed on any of their sites. I've looked, believe me. I found it in a store that used to carry their line, and this was one of the rings they still had in stock. The pave was lovely.

For a custom setting that is also your ORIGINAL ring:

Just send your future fiance to us, and have him page me "gypsy" here. I'd be happy to help him create your dream setting for you. That way you get what you want, and it is your original engagement ring. Just tell him to use the words "pave collar" and I'll know it is him.

Or, alternately, I am happy to recommend a couple vendors to you that can do this and do it well for you and you can talk to them in advance, explain what you want with pictures (I would use the word "collar" with a couple of pictures to illustrate) and tell your future fiance to buy the setting from them. Do you want a plain or pave shank?

There are many work-arounds. We can make it happen for you, don't worry.

As for the 'taking the surprise out of it"... I would re-frame that and say you are replacing one surprise with another. If you don't make your desires known AND give him the tools to be successful you will be unpleasantly surprised by a setting that will NOT be the quality or the style you want. So.. replace the unpleasant surprise with that of seeing that box open with exactly what you want. SURPRISE: It's perfect! When you look at it on your hand everyday, you will be glad you did. PLUS-- the proposal itself will still be a surprise when it comes to where and when. So just adjust your expectations. Wanting everything to be a surprise, but having specific expectations is frankly unreasonable and leads to frustration on your part and on your man's. Knowing you'll be disappointed if you don't get exactly what you want when what you want isn't as simple as just sending him a link to a specific actual existing setting isn't a good idea. It's setting him up for failure. You have responsibility in this too. So take the bull by the horns and make sure your man doesn't spend his hard earned cash on something that isn't what you want.

 

[Mico]

done!

I just sent him this post, and told him I would no longer be checking the forum. I'll check back in after everything is said and done so he has his privacy and let him ask me to weigh in. I told him how I liked where the "collar" sat vs in the original picture and that we would look at the types of bands I like and etc when we go shopping. I'll weigh in sooner if he wants me to and we'll see where this goes!

Thanks for everything!

p.s. i guess since this is technically my last post, I should mention that he knows the basics of what would make me happy. round diamond, solitaire, a collar like the one shown in the first post set like the setting you posted (low), and a band that is to be decided when we try rings on. We're aiming for an H color or better, eye clean S2 or better, excellent cut (or H&A if able). When we go shopping I'm going to try on a low set halo vs. solitaires to see how those in our price range look in either setting. Part of me wants him to have some say in this too, because in my mind i'll be wearing a part of him... hence my ocd current searches prior to our shopping excursion. I know that if he gets stuck he'll ask me, and I trust him enough to know that whatever he gives me I'll love.

I'm a lucky girl

 

[Gypsy]

GOOD JOB!

Now, just make sure he knows the answer to the following questions:

What metal you want.
What your finger size is, exactly (get measured at a big chain store)
Plain shank or pave?
Milgrain or no milgrain?

 

[Mico]

GOOD JOB!

Now, just make sure he knows the answer to the following questions:

What metal you want.
What your finger size is, exactly (get measured at a big chain store)
Plain shank or pave?
Milgrain or no milgrain?

Ah! just saw this, maybe i'll give this forum up in... a week ...ish

yes'm I'll figure those out after our trip

Finger size: either a 5.5 or a 6 - will need to ask more when we go shopping based on how it should fit and if i swell, etc. I have a ring sizer that I've been trying on every day in hot and cold temps and we've asked our friends how they decided on their fit and what they wish they did (too big that turns vs too tight when swollen, etc).

metal: likely platinum, another one I'll have to decide between. I do like gold, so we're going to look at the different settings and do pro's/con's

milgrain: likely no, but i'll try on a setting with it if we go with a plain shank and see if I like it

pave vs. plain shank: we'll see! I'm back and forth on this one! part of me wants a plain shank in platinum with gold pave wedding bands on either side... but we were going to wait to see in person. I'm not sure if i would even like that, it just sounds kinda cool.

thanks for those tips! I didn't think about some of them like the milgrain! Any others?

 

[Gypsy]

If you look REALLY carefully at the Landi you'll see milgrain. Very very fine milgrain. You can see it best in the top of the collar.

IF it were my setting I would go with a bright cut pave, regardless of whether you go with a plain shank or a pave one. The great thing about bright cut pave is it's MUCH MUCH safer than other types of pave, so if you do want it on the shank, it's a much better fit for an active lifestyle and will handle wear much better. And with brightcut you can do milgrain or no milgrain, depending on your preference.

I have no idea what your budget is, but if you go with a plain shank with a pave collar you are looking at 2,200k ish for great quality. If you want pave on the shank you are looking at 3.5k ish for great quality.

It can be done cheaper, and done well, but those are the ballpark prices for top quality in platinum, by my estimate.


If you do want pave on the shank, I recommend only 3/4 eternity not full eternity to allow for sizing later on, if you get pregnant or whatever ring sizes can change.

Is a flush fit band important to you? This style can be done with or without a donut. So if a flush fit band is important, no donut.

What shape diamond do you want for the ring? And what are your color and clarity preferences.

*** PLEASE make an effort to spend 1 hour (make an appointment) with a Hearts on Fire dealer covering the importance of CUT and seeing EVERY color from H-J in PERSON in a size close to what you think your budget will allow. It's VERY important you do this. Also make sure you check out SI1 clarity. ***

Finally, talk frankly with your FF about budgets and diamond sizes.

 

[Mico]

I know I should stay away! BUT I found another similar one... setting is high enough to wear bands with - however i'm unsure if they mean this to be a halo...

http://www.foreverdiamondsny.com/demo/product_info.php?products_id=70

it was while searching "art deco" type rings because of a halo I saw on PS (still am going back and forth)

anyhoo... just wanted to update.

p.s. after this trip to DC... maybe i'll start another talk up about the types of pave settings. Your (gypsy) questioning made me research it more and now I have a gazillion more things to look over. thanks alot

p.p.s. I also may start one up about blue fluorescence, I kinda find it beautiful, FF wants me to see it in person however - he is not convinced.

 

[distracts]

I don't want this to turn into a custom made set because it takes the surprise out of what may be an exciting proposal. I just want to find the picture of what I want, forward it along so he knows my taste, and be done with it... until I'm blinded by something sparkly .

Just wanted to butt in to share my experience here - my fiance and I selected my ring and center stone together (good thing, too, because it took two months of shopping to find something we BOTH liked), and I saw the stone in the sample setting (which we were modifying in several ways) so knew almost exactly what my ring would look like... and was still totally OMG shocked when he proposed, and stood staring at my ring for like five minutes before going "omg that's my ring! omg you're proposing!" Soo... if you can't find what you want, please do not settle for less because you're afraid working on your ring with your fiance will steal his thunder from the proposal moment, because it SO will not.

I don't know where to find what you're looking for, as the Jewels by Erica Grace rings that have already been linked are the only thing I could think of, but good luck with your search!

eta: Although of course sending your boyfriend here and having Gypsy and other PSers help him is also an excellent idea.

And since I just dug up these links, here are some links on diamond color:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V_Ng2-8OmE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcmSj8dOLRI

 

[fridays_child]

Not sure if you are still looking at this thread but here's another one, the vendor calls it an "under halo" and it looks like you can get it as a semi-mount, or custom if you want to change the split shank or anything else. (This is my second post out of my scant handful about this company I've been studying their website religiously since I am thinking of having them make a ring for me).

http://rockdiamond.com/index.php/jewelry/semi-mount-ring-split-shank-underhalo-from-2795

If you scroll down, there's a video of it so you can see underside and side views of the ring too. Congrats on your almost-engagement!

 

[Gypsy]

I think they one you posted is supposed to be a halo. But the link from DBL is a 'collar' and that's one with v-cut type pave, not with brightcut (I really do think brightcut pave is a better choice for this style).

Giving you information to think about is my 'job'... I'm here to make you think about issues, decisions, things that you don't know enough to ask about yourself. If you don't know the questions to ask, how are you going to get the information you need to make a knowledgeable decision?

Florescence is great and is only detrimental in a small percentage of stones. There is no reason to start a new thread about it. Please do a search on the topic, or go up to the KNOWLEDGE tab here on PS and you will get all the information you need. The topic has been well covered and doing your own research on it is the best way.

 

[Mico]

Not sure if you are still looking at this thread but here's another one, the vendor calls it an "under halo" and it looks like you can get it as a semi-mount, or custom if you want to change the split shank or anything else. (This is my second post out of my scant handful about this company I've been studying their website religiously since I am thinking of having them make a ring for me).

http://rockdiamond.com/index.php/jewelry/semi-mount-ring-split-shank-underhalo-from-2795

If you scroll down, there's a video of it so you can see underside and side views of the ring too. Congrats on your almost-engagement!

i'm still here, maybe i'll stay away after our dc trip and i try rings on

thanks for posting that! I have two ring types i'm down to, and i'm planning on trying those types on when we make our rounds.
i'll keep you updated!