What is the best setting/ring colour for J colour diamond

[tlc_trax]

Can I have some advice please.

I have just purchased a J colour diamond and wonder what setting metal & style is best to make the stone look as white as possible. The diamond looks good and white from on top but from the side you can see the yellowish tinge.

I would really like to have a platinum ring but am concerned that the slight tinge of yellow in the stone may look worse than if the ring is in yellow gold.

Thanks in advance

 

[jstarfireb]

I''ve heard that a yellow gold setting may make your stone look whiter. If you don''t like yellow gold, another option may be to use a setting with a closed gallery. Something like this one will hide the sides of the diamond as much as possible:
WF Surprise Diamond ring

And to give credit where credit is due, I believe it was WorkingHardForSmallRewards who pointed this out first!

 

[tlc_trax]

Many thanks for the link and for the advice.

 

[WorkingHardforSmallRewards]

Date: 7/8/2007 11:26:46 AM
Author:
And to give credit where credit is due, I believe it was WorkingHardForSmallRewards who pointed this out first!

Well thank you for the credit

but in the event that anyone with more technical knowledge reads this I do have a question. There has been some recent discussion on how it MAY be possible that faceted diamond girdles can cause for the color of a diamond to become more noticeable and exasperated due its reflecting back through the diamond. I haven't had the opportunity to view a wide color range of diamonds in a variety of settings but if that were in fact true might it also be possible that having the diamond in a closed setting like this might allow for that same reflection on a larger scale and could allow for the color to be more enhanced on the portion of the diamond that is visible to have an even deeper yellow hue? I doubt it, but it would be nice to know

 

[dfm00]

A setting that hides some of the pavillion may be worth conisdering, but you prefer platinum so go with platinum. If you like white metal, yellow gold will have a much more significant (negative, to you) impact on the aesthetics of the ring than any potential improvement in the stone''s apparent color. And there are plenty of beautiful J and K colored diamonds set in white metals on this site. Seems like you''re happy with the face-up color of your loose stone, and it will only look better once it''s set.

Maybe think of it this way if you''re unsure: would you rather see yellow gold every time you look down at your hand or see (or maybe not) a faint tint the 1% of the time you look at the ring from the side?


Dave

 

[surfgirl]

I''ve always been told that if you have a very warm colored stone, best to bury it in yellow gold to make it appear whiter and less yellow.

 

[dfm00]

A thread you might want to peruse:
https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/j-color-stones-in-platinum.24731/

Dave

 

[misysu2]

It''s funny-- I actually heard the OPPOSITE-- someone from Whiteflash advised me that the diamond will reflect whatever color the setting is. So a diamond will reflect the yellow in a yellow gold setting so a white gold or platinum setting is better for lower color grade diamonds.

I don''t want to confuse you, but this is what I heard! You are all free to correct me!

 

[marcy]

I bought a H/I 1/2 carat heart shape diamond solitaire ring and had them change the tiffany YG mounting to a YG cathedral mounting and found not only did the diamond look more yellow and I could see the mouting and prongs through the diamond making it appear even more yellow. I debated whether to return the ring or remount it in WG. I decided to have them try it in a WG tiffany mounting and it was night and day difference. I will post pictures of each so you can see.

Here is the yellow gold.

 

[marcy]

Here is the white gold.

 

[kcoursolle]

Personally, I would go for the type of setting you like the best rather than what you think will look the best with your J. Most people won''t notice the color and diamonds aren''t really examined from the side view when other people look at the ring.

If you are still worried about it, here is my opinion of what settings do: I think stones look more yellow in yellow gold no matter what their color, but a J would blend into the yellow gold well and you may not notice the color as much. I think stones set in whitemetals can actually help the color out a bit, but make the color from the side more visible than in yellow gold.

I like the idea of using a setting that covers up the side view of the stone.

 

[WorkingHardforSmallRewards]

Date: 7/8/2007 2:20:20 PM
Author: misysu2
It''s funny-- I actually heard the OPPOSITE-- someone from Whiteflash advised me that the diamond will reflect whatever color the setting is. So a diamond will reflect the yellow in a yellow gold setting so a white gold or platinum setting is better for lower color grade diamonds.


I don''t want to confuse you, but this is what I heard! You are all free to correct me!

I have heard that before as well. But a couple of points on that

One is the obvious that because most of the light you will see exiting in the face up position is that the of the light entering the face up position the color of the setting would have no bearing on face up appearance.

Two, I spoke at some length with one of the laboratory gemologist at AGS over the phone (I think pretty much everybody must hate me after my diamond purchasing experience

) about diamond color and appearance in regards to H and lower color, he was of the opinion that the color would be more pronounced in a white setting as opposed to a yellow setting.

in extension of that it makes perfect sense in the idea of perceived color. obviously, no setting is going to CHANGE the diamond color, When you look at it and the setting is yellow then the eye naturally expects there to be some yellow reflection/hue coming from the diamond which thus justifies the J color hue and makes the diamond appear less tainted and would prevent an untrained eye from having its attention draw to any out of place or unexpected color in the diamond. Something akin to camouflage. Whereas with a white setting it is going to contrast more sharply with the white of the diamond and will be more likely to catch one''s attention and thus to the untrained eye the diamond should appear more yellow than in the yellow setting.


And here I want to throw in a story from last night at 4am just because I thought it was fun. This last week I went to a particular jeweler to compare my diamond with some of his. He yelled at me at first and said it wasn''t fair for me to buy online and come in their to see if it was good. I assuaged him of my innocent intent--and true to my word if he had had a G VS2 in the price range and noticeably larger I would have seriously considered going for it--but he instead brought out an H slightly larger than mine.

Because of his initial anger I was on my toes the whole time, keeping a close eye and hand on my diamond, though he turned out to be a really great guy and wonderful jeweler. Then last night I decided to recheck it because I was tired and scared he might have switched it out. I went to the bathroom with one single light and looked at it, and almost had a heart attack. My E diamond was clearly yellow! I checked the hearts, bust out my loop, ideal scope, everything, and was very worried as I wasn''t able to find my inclusion. I cleaned it with a toothbrush and still am not 100% sure I found it as it kept firing up on me and was hard to see. Then I realized the room was badge with a slight yellow hue all around, I took it in my bedroom and turned on the light, beautiful clear clean white again!

The point here is, if you are smart about presentation the average person really won''t be able to tell a difference. Just don''t go showing off side profile shots of your diamond in a white office building, and even be wary of showing off the views from the top when comparing against a colorless grade diamond, just for the sake of some people won''t understand. If you can avoid those situations I don''t think many people will ever pay much attention to its hue, just due to changing environments and lighting keeping it from coming to their attention.

But if the goal is to prevent YOU from being bothered by the hue, that is a totally different situation and one you need to think carefully on.

 

[WorkingHardforSmallRewards]

Well I type too much and a bunch of responses came while I was typing

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I don't think that those two pictures are very fair.

1) the light sources seem to be drastically different and could VERY easily be responsible for MUCH of the yellow hue.

2)the diamond in the yellow gold seems to be set lower than the top of the shank, thus it might, in fact, be reflecting some of the yellow color up through the table?

3) it is set against your yellowish finger whereas the second one is sitting in the white ring box.


Also, that is a BEAUTIFUL ring, I like it alot.

 

[Cehrabehra]

I have a somewhat large, very low J stone that I am having put in a platinum setting that will encourage viewing from the side of naked stone.... if you have a beautiful stone it is my thought to embrace what it is rather than to try to hide it. There IS beauty in color, even faint, IMO. Nothing wrong with a clear stone - but if you a lower hued stone calls to you, why not embrace it?

 

[sera]

Both perspectives make sense... yellow in the setting could provide the contrast to make your stone look whiter like even tiny white diamonds in a YG pave really pop, or it could enhance it like when YG is used as a background to enhance yellow diamonds. If you want platinum, you should get platinum (unless it doesn''t compliment your stone the way you are comfortable with).

In another thread, the Ritani setting was mentioned that has the diamonds between the prongs. Diamonds could be used to ''hide'' the side of your diamond and it would be in your preferred metal. Whether this would actually have any effect would have to be answered by someone more knowledgeable than me... cuz IDK. Anyway, here is the link.

If, on the other hand the contrast makes your diamond whiter, you could still go with a mainly platinum ring but with YG or yellow diamond accents.
yellow diamond sidestones
or a yellow halo

Just some thoughts from a non-expert

 

[marcy]

Workinghardforsmallrewards and all, I know my sample pictures have dramtically different lighting, etc but I was just trying to "show" the difference not to give a preference for one color metal or another. From my personal experience with this particular diamond I found I liked it better in WG. However, I think the catherdral setting of the YG ring added to it''s overall yellow color. When the diamond was in YG I was always seeing yellow in the diamond. I have rarely noticed any yellow now that it''s mounted in WG except sometimes from the side. I have some YG diamond fashion jewelry that are either I or J color and I occasionally see a yellow tint but most of the time I don''t notice it. It depends more on lighting than anything.

TicTrax, I would try your diamond in different settings to see what suits you. I am sure you''ll find something you''ll be proud to see everyone time you look at your finger. I would maybe buy the mounting from somewhere that you can return it or exchange it if you find you don''t like your chioce.

Workinghard, sorry to hear you thought your diamond had been switched. I would DIE. I am glad you like my heart ring. I had it for a wedding set for about 3 months but decided I wanted a better cut diamond so got RB ering and I wear the heart ring as a RHR. I did like it enough that I kept it instead of trading it in.