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Diamond_image_request-f52082db7562f916bb4709ea878cdd1e - AA (1)

Diamond_image_request-f52082db7562f916bb4709ea878cdd1e - AA (1)

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I am buying an engagement ring and a little overwhelmed by the process. I did comparison shopping and feel the best balance has been Ritani. I am always scared of going with in-house 'experts' because they may be biased to sell particular stones or mislead someone who is very clueless. Can you please verify the diamond image and GIA report and let me know a fair price and if it will have fantastic sparkle.

GIA;https://www.gia.edu/sites/Satellite...ring=95A60F2750F238E067F457868A783ACB&qr=null
 
Depth
62.7 %
Table
57 %
Crown Angle
36.0°
Crown Height
15.5%
Pavilion Angle
41.2°
Pavilion Depth
43.5%
Star Length
45%
Lower Half
80%
Girdle
Medium to Slightly Thick, Faceted, 3.5%
Culet
None

I would pass on this stone. It is cut too deep.

Look for these porportions:
Table 53-57
Depth 60-62.3
Crown angle 34-35
Pavilion angle 40.6-41
CA and PA should compliment one another. 34 CA goes well with a 41 PA and 35 goes well with 40.6 PA.

Also you can check these porportions with the HCA tool found on this site. Reject any stone that scores over 2. If less than 2 it is worth considering and getting an ASET or ideal scope image to confirm performance.

If you would like help finding a stone post your budget, color, clarity, size preferences.
 
1500 best bang for my buck. I was told to go with an I color as its being set in 18k rose gold I prefer bigger like .65 and definitely eye clean. Has to be from www.ritani.com but I know they will price match other sites with the same stone. I used www.rarecarat.com and saved like $80 on this stone. (originally listed like 1,600). This was recommended by their in-house gemologist.
 
SimIGeek said:
1500 best bang for my buck. I was told to go with an I color as its being set in 18k rose gold I prefer bigger like .65 and definitely eye clean. Has to be from www.ritani.com but I know they will price match other sites with the same stone. I used www.rarecarat.com and saved like $80 on this stone. (originally listed like 1,600). This was recommended by their in-house gemologist.
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Any reason it has to be ritani? Is it because of setting?
 
If I were you, I would suggest one of these choices (in rose gold you should theoretically be safe going down to a J color, especially if the cutting and performance is excellent):

https://www.adiamor.com/Diamonds/0....1&b=1.561&utm_source=rarecarat&utm_medium=cpc **would need to ask for an ASET/IdealScope**

This is my favorite for you. Available with all the images (ASET, etc) from Enchanted diamonds, but same stone is $200 less on Four Mine. You could also see if Ritani could get this one.

https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamonds/view/R66-563285020?utm_source=rarecarat&utm_medium=cpc

https://www.fourmine.com/shop/diamo...ce=rarecarat&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=2018
 
I would definitely not choose that stone. It's too deep, the crown angle and pavilion angles are both too steep to compliment each other. Keep looking and broaden your choice of vendors.
 
lovedogs said:
Any reason it has to be ritani? Is it because of setting?
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Yes they custom designed the setting and the only way to have warantee is to have the diamond from them.
 
SimIGeek said:
Yes they custom designed the setting and the only way to have warantee is to have the diamond from them.
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Ask if they can get one of the stones suggested here.
 
I am now thanks for all your advice! I was told they can't access either diamond.
 
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The one I had was a .65. I was told it would take a week and a half to get those stones that its with an international vendor. They will ask for the photos and advise me when they hear back.
 
SimIGeek said:
Thanks looks nice but it has alot more inclusions on the GIA report. Can someone explain service graining? It says on google that would make it hazy. I want a clear diamond.
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Surface graining should not affect diamond clarity unless it is a very poor quality diamond, as I understand it.

The GIA report lists inclusions in order of size/quantity/impact on the stone (I think?) so a comment of 'Surface Graining not shown' at the end of a list means it is a minor observation.

What one should be careful of is 'additional clouds not shown' - that might indicate a stone with a lot of clouds not plotted on the report, which may impact light travelling through the stone and reduce performance / make it hazy.
 
OoohShiny said:
Surface graining should not affect diamond clarity unless it is a very poor quality diamond, as I understand it.

The GIA report lists inclusions in order of size/quantity/impact on the stone (I think?) so a comment of 'Surface Graining not shown' at the end of a list means it is a minor observation.

What one should be careful of is 'additional clouds not shown' - that might indicate a stone with a lot of clouds not plotted on the report, which may impact light travelling through the stone and reduce performance / make it hazy.
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I think @OoohShiny is referring to lower clarity stones like SI1/SI2/I.
 
OoohShiny said:
Surface graining should not affect diamond clarity unless it is a very poor quality diamond, as I understand it.

The GIA report lists inclusions in order of size/quantity/impact on the stone (I think?) so a comment of 'Surface Graining not shown' at the end of a list means it is a minor observation.

What one should be careful of is 'additional clouds not shown' - that might indicate a stone with a lot of clouds not plotted on the report, which may impact light travelling through the stone and reduce performance / make it hazy.
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Additional clouds not shown vs clarity based on clouds not shown. Be more concerned about the latter. Both need to be checked to make sure the clouds don't impact the stones performance.
 
The most important aspect of a ring is the diamond - not the setting - in my opinion. The most beautiful setting will take a hit if the diamond is not well cut. I wouldn't be shortsighted by considering the setting to be the deal breaker. Keep an open mind about all aspects of the ring - settings can be replicated and others can be just as beautiful.
 
MissGotRocks said:
The most important aspect of a ring is the diamond - not the setting - in my opinion. The most beautiful setting will take a hit if the diamond is not well cut. I wouldn't be shortsighted by considering the setting to be the deal breaker. Keep an open mind about all aspects of the ring - settings can be replicated and others can be just as beautiful.
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100% agree on this!
 
MissGotRocks said:
The most important aspect of a ring is the diamond - not the setting - in my opinion. The most beautiful setting will take a hit if the diamond is not well cut. I wouldn't be shortsighted by considering the setting to be the deal breaker. Keep an open mind about all aspects of the ring - settings can be replicated and others can be just as beautiful.
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It's a deal breaker to me when I went thru more revisions then I ever care to admit (well beyond 6 months) to come up with the beauty and paid a pretty penny for the setting.
 
Oh...do you have some CADS for the setting or any pictures? Would love to see what you had created!
 
Ok, so are you saying that you already have the setting but now just need a diamond? What size stone you need?
 
MissGotRocks said:
Ok, so are you saying that you already have the setting but now just need a diamond? What size stone you need?
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Good point. If you already have the setting then you don't have a lot of room for different sizes in stones.
 
I already paid for the setting to be made. Its scheduled to ship to me Friday. It's in the process for the .65 stone I posted first. I'm having buyers remorse when I found out how much my friend paid for a vs2 I color .63 stone that seemed to have a lot more shine. Of course the stone they choose looked good under showcase lights but when I walked around It shined but it didn't shine as much as my friends who paid like $100 less.
 
Give them the cut parameters that were posted above and tell them that you want a stone that falls within them. Let them do the legwork to source a stone for you. Meanwhile, I would touch base with a couple of the PS vendors and explain to them that you have a setting that you are trying to find a diamond for. They can tell you if they will set a stone in an outside setting. There are hundreds of testimonials here for vendors - Whiteflash, BGD diamonds, High Performance Diamonds - just to name a few. They don't just try to push their stones - they care very much about cut quality - and they care about selling a quality diamond.
 
MissGotRocks said:
Give them the cut parameters that were posted above and tell them that you want a stone that falls within them. Let them do the legwork to source a stone for you. Meanwhile, I would touch base with a couple of the PS vendors and explain to them that you have a setting that you are trying to find a diamond for. They can tell you if they will set a stone in an outside setting. There are hundreds of testimonials here for vendors - Whiteflash, BGD diamonds, High Performance Diamonds - just to name a few. They don't just try to push their stones - they care very much about cut quality - and they care about selling a quality diamond.
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the problem is that OP wants a .65 stone for 1500 or less, which is hard to find with an ideal cut. Not impossible, but not easy either. That's why I was hoping Ritani could find one of the stones suggested above.
 
if you have to go with Ritani, a few options....

Should be eye clean at this size:
https://www.ritani.com/diamonds/round-diamond-0-64-Carat-H-color-GIA-certified/D-775S7Q
but see if they will price match Parcel & Stone:
https://parcelandstone.com/diamond/...730053420?utm_source=rarecarat&utm_medium=cpc

tyty333 said:
We can get you to .65 in a J. No picture on this stone so you would need to request (I hate recommending stones with no pictures). Plus an aset.
Very clean stone.
https://www.ritani.com/diamonds/round-diamond-0-65-Carat-J-color-GIA-certified/D-H1MFF6
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This is listed on fourmine for less:
https://www.fourmine.com/shop/diamo...ce=rarecarat&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=2018
 
SimIGeek said:
Of course. Please let me know when you viewed it so I can delete it. Don't want to ruin the surprise. For some reason this forum
doesnt have PM. Please don't post any suggestions I love it and already in the hesitation stage before proposing.
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Very pretty! Looks like you have put a lot of thought into and that's what GFs usually appreciate. Ask them if that H that farrahlyn posted is eye-clean.
If not the J will be and since you are putting it in a halo you should not be able to see any color from the side. I have a small J colored stone that is
beautiful. It faces up white to me but then again I'm not color sensitive.
 
oh gosh, i forgot to comment om the setting, it is gorgeous!! :love:
 
Screen Shot 2018-11-05 at 10.03.22 AM.pngThis isn't eye clean though right?
 
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