What do you think of these 2.....

[dssxxxx]

This is from one of the recommended dealers on PS.

Comments? I know everyone is very helpful and gives great opinions........good and bad.

Both prices around the same.

Thanks.

Number 1:

5.03
J-VS2
Exc,Exc,Exc for polish, symmetry and cut
59.3% depth 61% table
No UVF
11.11mm – 11.18mm x 6.61 mm
Price: XXXXXX
Number 3:


5.23
I-SI1
Exc,Exc,Exc for polish, symmetry and cut
61.7 % depth 57% table
No UVF
11.12mm – 12.00xmm x 6.89 mm
Price: XXXXXXX

All GIA grading.....have requested the reports.

Thanks.

 

[FB.]

In stones of such a large size (5ct!

), I or J colour will be very obvious. You need to be comfortable that the stone will show "warmth".
You might also find that SI1 inclusions are too noticeable.

I'm not overly impressed with a 61% table and 59% depth on stone 1. It could make for a stone that "faces up" large, but without much character. Stones with tables larger than their depth can have undesirable optical effects.

Stone 2 appears to be very far "out of round"; almost a millimetre difference across the different axes of measurement. That'll surely be obvious to the eye.

I would probably not buy either stone.

 

[dssxxxx]

Date: 12/20/2009 12:01:54 PM
Author: FB.
In stones of such a large size (5ct!

), I or J colour will be very obvious. You need to be comfortable that the stone will show ''warmth''.
You might also find that SI1 inclusions are too noticeable.

I''m not overly impressed with a 61% table and 59% depth on stone 1. It could make for a stone that ''faces up'' large, but without much character. Stones with tables larger than their depth can have undesirable optical effects.

Stone 2 appears to be very far ''out of round''; almost a millimetre difference across the different axes of measurement. That''ll surely be obvious to the eye.

I would probably not buy either stone.

FB,

My typing error.

The 2nd stone is 11.12 mm – 11.20 mm - 6.89mm

Now what do you think?

Thanks and would like to have some other opinions.

 

[D&T]

if nothing else, I like the I diamond better for color (may worry slightly on SI1 due to its size - if eye clean - Fantastic!) I much prefer a smaller table to depthmuch better on this stone as well.

Do you not have the crown and pavilion angle? if it is GIA graded, then you can pull the report number from the site. But these are just purely based what you have so far. CA and PA could determine if I would even move forward with the I diamond.

 

[dssxxxx]

Here is the report on the 5.23.

What the good and the bad? Have not heard many good''s...

 

[jet2ks]

OK, here''s some good.

The numbers on that diamond are excellent! 35/40.8 is a great crown and pavillion angle combo for performance, and the depth and table are right in the Tolkowsky Ideal range, as well.

Have the vendor check whether the diamond is eye-clean to your standard and provide a photo and IS image if they can. It is certainly a stone worthy of further consideration.

 

[FB.]

I'm liking that stone's proportions. I'd say that it's a 9/10 candidate, maybe 9.5/10. But for that kind of money, I'd want a good returns policy.
But don't expect it to be 100% eye clean. I'd guess that at six inches, your eyes will be able to detect *something* under the table in certain lighting and from certain angles.
Also be prepared to notice the "warm" tint at least some of the time.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 12/21/2009 12:05:53 PM
Author: jet2ks
OK, here''s some good.

The numbers on that diamond are excellent! 35/40.8 is a great crown and pavillion angle combo for performance, and the depth and table are right in the Tolkowsky Ideal range, as well.

Have the vendor check whether the diamond is eye-clean to your standard and provide a photo and IS image if they can. It is certainly a stone worthy of further consideration.

Ditto that, this might be the one if you can get images.

 

[dssxxxx]

Other than these photo''s, what else would you like to see? Maybe we finally found one.

Here is what the dealer wrote:


Turns out that the 5.23 became available, so I have it and took some photos of it. On photo 007 you will be able to identify the grade setting inclusion which is located in the 11:00 star facet just off the table. It can be seen just slightly under the edge of the table and slightly in the bezel facet. Those would be the crystals reflection.

 

[dssxxxx]

Another:

 

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[jet2ks]

Pics look pretty good. It is hard to read too much into them, as none are straight on to the camera, but I don't see any glaring deficiencies. Any chance of an IS image?

 

[D&T]

just my .02cnts if the price is right, and you''ve seen this "I" diamond, (CA and PA looks good or well enough for me) then I think its a nice diamond.

 

[Lorelei]

It looks very promising, especially as finding a well cut diamond of this size will be more challenging, could you arrange to have it sent to a vendor near you for viewing?

 

[dssxxxx]

The dealer does not have an IS but is close enough that we could drive......about 45 minutes to an hour.

Is it normal to have one vendor send a diamond to another vendor for viewing? Does not sound kosher. I did the HCA thing (hope I spelled it right) and they came out exc. Everyone else get that conclusion?

 

[D&T]

Date: 12/21/2009 4:21:33 PM
Author: dssxxxx
The dealer does not have an IS but is close enough that we could drive......about 45 minutes to an hour.

Is it normal to have one vendor send a diamond to another vendor for viewing? Does not sound kosher. I did the HCA thing (hope I spelled it right) and they came out exc. Everyone else get that conclusion?

well worth the drive for peace of mind.

I think Lorelei meant to send it to 3rd party appraiser near you perhaps for viewing?

 

[jet2ks]

Date: 12/21/2009 4:23:54 PM
Author: D&T
well worth the drive for peace of mind.

I think Lorelei meant to send it to 3rd party appraiser near you perhaps for viewing?

Definitely. If it is only an hour or less, you would be able to look the diamond over in person with the vendor there to answer any questions.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 12/21/2009 4:29:43 PM
Author: jet2ks

Date: 12/21/2009 4:23:54 PM
Author: D&T
well worth the drive for peace of mind.

I think Lorelei meant to send it to 3rd party appraiser near you perhaps for viewing?

Definitely. If it is only an hour or less, you would be able to look the diamond over in person with the vendor there to answer any questions.

Yes I did mean an appraiser, sorry about that - I had vendor on the brain!