What do you think of the specs on this stone?

[Phoenix]

Table: 56
Depth: 62.1
Crown: 34
Pavillion: 40.8
Girdle: med to thick (4%)
Upper girdle facet (is this the right terminology?): 50
Lower GF: 80

The stone scores less than 2 on the HCA but it has a smaller diameter than one that's less deep. Do you think the performance will be adversely affected? If so, how?

 

[slg47]

what is the carat size?

 

[Phoenix]

what is the carat size?

hmmm...BIG...but I am reluctant to share more details, in case it gets snatched by some lurker!

 

[Ravinmad]

what is the carat size?

hmmm...BIG...but I am reluctant to share more details, in case it gets snatched by some lurker!

Well if its big, rates sub 2 on the HCA, and the cert look good reserve this badboy and we can go from there. I would say I'd consider the specs given so far as very likable and desirable.

Again, If the price is good, the size one you want, and there's inclusions you can live with reserve the stone and then share the goodness with us so we can ooo and ahhhhh along with you.

 

[Phoenix]

what is the carat size?

hmmm...BIG...but I am reluctant to share more details, in case it gets snatched by some lurker!

Well if its big, rates sub 2 on the HCA, and the cert look good reserve this badboy and we can go from there. I would say I'd consider the specs given so far as very likable and desirable.

Again, If the price is good, the size one you want, and there's inclusions you can live with reserve the stone and then share the goodness with us so we can ooo and ahhhhh along with you.

LOL!!

Buuuttt, what do you think of i) the thicker girdle and ii) the fact that the diameter is smaller than stones of the same/ similar carat size (no doubt caused by the thicker girdle and hence greater depth)?

 

[Ravinmad]

so if its a 2.5ct it may look like 2.3cts instead?????????????

how's its price compared to like ct weight stones?

 

[SB621]

what is the carat size?

hmmm...BIG...but I am reluctant to share more details, in case it gets snatched by some lurker!

Ok if Phoenix says it is big I'm thinking it is over 5cts........oh don't hold out on us. Besides I want to know what lurker has that much pocket money to be spending

 

[diamondseeker2006]

so if its a 2.5ct it may look like 2.3cts instead?????????????

how's its price compared to like ct weight stones?

Nooooo! It is not that deep!

Phoenix, the numbers are great!

 

[Ravinmad]

so if its a 2.5ct it may look like 2.3cts instead?????????????

how's its price compared to like ct weight stones?

Nooooo! It is not that deep!

Phoenix, the numbers are great!

Thanks DS, I was playing coy but its hard to sell it on the internet, lol...... I agree, the numbers work now lets see this xx.xxct monsters specs

 

[diamondseeker2006]

so if its a 2.5ct it may look like 2.3cts instead?????????????

how's its price compared to like ct weight stones?

Nooooo! It is not that deep!

Phoenix, the numbers are great!

Thanks DS, I was playing coy but its hard to sell it on the internet, lol...... I agree, the numbers work now lets see this xx.xxct monsters specs

Well, I just didn't want Phoenix to worry needlessly since I think she was serious about the question!

 

[Amys Bling]

How big is it???

 

[ariel144]

GOG shows 59.9-63
http://www.goodoldgold.com/4Cs/Cut/Proportions/


Can't find the specs for GIA or AGS but here it is for EGLUSA

Diamonds Education: EGL Cut Grades [sorry the chart got skewed...see depth at the bottom.]

- EGL Cut Grade Parameters -
Lab European Gemological Labs, USA (EGL USA)
Cut > Ideal Plus Ideal Very Good Good Fair
Table width % 53 - 58 53 - 63 53 - 65 53 - 67 53 - 71.5
Crown Height % 13.0 - 17.0 11.5 - 17.3 9.5 - 17.8
Crown Angle % 33 - 36 32 - 36.3 31 - 36.8 30 - 37.8 29.5 - 38.8
Pavilion Depth % 42 - 44 41.5 - 44.5 41 - 44.6 40 - 46 37.9 - 46.1
Pavilion Angle 40.0 - 41.2 39.5 - 41.5 39.5 - 42.5
Girdle Thickness Thin to Sl. Thick
Thin to Sl. Thick
Thin to Thick
Very Thin to Very Thick
Ex. Thin to Ex. Thick
Total Depth% 58.5 - 62.5 57 - 63.5 56 - 64.5 54 - 66.9 50 - 69.9
Culet size % Pointed to Medium Pointed to Sl. Large Pointed to Sl. Large Pointed to Large Pointed to Very Large

 

[Amys Bling]

the numbers do look great!

 

[Phoenix]

Thanks, guys. Appreciate the assurance.

The diamond is a few mm smaller than its comparable counterparts but the price is a lot more attractive. Sorry to be coy, but I've learned things the hard way.

I am thinking also to get the stone looked at by an independent appraiser. Shall update you with any progress later.

Wish me luck!

 

[slg47]

Thanks, guys. Appreciate the assurance.

The diamond is a few mm smaller than its comparable counterparts but the price is a lot more attractive. Sorry to be coy, but I've learned things the hard way.

I am thinking also to get the stone looked at by an independent appraiser. Shall update you with any progress later.

Wish me luck!

oh no problem for not linking. Phoenix have you seen the stone in person?

 

[Phoenix]

Thanks, guys. Appreciate the assurance.

The diamond is a few mm smaller than its comparable counterparts but the price is a lot more attractive. Sorry to be coy, but I've learned things the hard way.

I am thinking also to get the stone looked at by an independent appraiser. Shall update you with any progress later.

Wish me luck!

oh no problem for not linking. Phoenix have you seen the stone in person?

Nope, not yet. I fully intend to, after it's been appraised. It's a lot of money to not see it with your (ie. my ) own eyes.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Good luck, Phoenix! Hopefully you can get good pictures. I would think the stone would be fine other than if it is SI clarity and then it is maybe or maybe not clean from all angles.

 

[Phoenix]

Good luck, Phoenix! Hopefully you can get good pictures. I would think the stone would be fine other than if it is SI clarity and then it is maybe or maybe not clean from all angles.

Thank you, DS. I've asked for ASET, IS image and "regular" photos....we shall see...

Have I missed anything?

 

[0-0-0]

The diamond is a few mm smaller than its comparable counterparts but the price is a lot more attractive. Sorry to be coy, but I've learned things the hard way.

Perhaps you mean a few tenths or hundredths of a mm? A few mm difference is huge!

 

[Phoenix]

The diamond is a few mm smaller than its comparable counterparts but the price is a lot more attractive. Sorry to be coy, but I've learned things the hard way.

Perhaps you mean a few tenths or hundredths of a mm? A few mm difference is huge!

Ha ha, you're right.

 

[Dreamer_D]

You can't be picky about such teensy nuances that won't affect optics at that size range. Stones that size are rare, and then you want top cut which is a further decrease is frequency, maybe top 10%... get too picky and you will never find anything. This one sounds promising!

 

[Phoenix]

You can't be picky about such teensy nuances that won't affect optics at that size range. Stones that size are rare, and then you want top cut which is a further decrease is frequency, maybe top 10%... get too picky and you will never find anything. This one sounds promising!

Agreed with every word you've said, Dreamer. I know cuz I've been looking for about 6 years already. Something has GOT to give...

 

[SB621]

Goodluck Phoenix!!! I can't wait for an update....ok how about a hint. Like between 5-4cts? More then 6cts? Oh how I'm living vicariously through you till I get my 4ct upgrade!!!!

 

[Dancing Fire]

what is the carat size?

over 5ct...

 

[Sparkle524]

I will definitely be keeping my eye on this thread! Over 5 cts? Wow! Good luck...I hope the diamond is perfect!