What do you guys think of this one? Online Appraisals? Pics, IS, H&A, and specs inside.

[Scott Kane]

1.27ct G SI1
-EGL-I #2922221525
-6.94x6.90x4.30
-Depth = 62.1%
-Table = 56%
-Crown Height = 15%
-Pavillion Depth = 43%
-Girdle = Slightly thk
-Polish = Ex
-Symmetry = Ex
-"Excellent, ideal cut", "H&A"
-HCA = 1 EX-EX-EX-VG (Don''t know how accurate this is with a slightly thick girdle vs. medium??)

 

[Scott Kane]

Arrows

 

[Scott Kane]

Hearts

 

[Scott Kane]

Ideal Scope

 

[Scott Kane]

Inclusions

 

[yssie]

Visibly leaky under the table.

 

[Scott Kane]

That could possibly be partly my fault. This was taken just a few moments before the other one. I couldn''t quite get the camera to line up perfectly.

 

[yssie]

Scott - I misread the crown -oops!

 

[Lorelei]

Hi Scott

Which EGL lab graded this diamond please? If you are unfamiliar with the grading labs, this link explains further. EGL can be less strict on grading in some circumstances with overseas labs being less strict than EGL USA which is the strongest of these labs.

 

[Scott Kane]

EGL International. I''ve been looking since November, so I''m pretty confident the ratings are fairly accurate. In fact an EGL Int "J" I looked at was whiter than a GIA "I" side by side. Both were noticeably yellow compared to this G. I have a decent eye and would say this was about as colorless as I could expect. Inclusions may be SI2 per GIA, but still eye clean at 8". At about 6" if I REALLY strain, I can see some of the inclusions under the table, but that''s #1 knowing they are there and #2 straining to see them.

 

[Scott Kane]

One more for good measure...

 

[Scott Kane]

Opinions? Advice? I''m still looking, but this is the best I''ve seen since I started looking. What''s a good price?

 

[Scott Kane]

Zoomed to show inclusions

 

[Scott Kane]

HCA

 

[yssie]

Numbers are good and you can't see leakage in the stills, so I assume the wonky IS is due to either insufficient/uneven backlighting or dirty diamond.


It's an EGL Int'l, so assume that the clarity and colour are at least one - likely two - grades higher than if the diamond was to be graded by GIA/AGS, and pay appropriately.

 

[AprilBaby]

Are you comfortable with the inclusions with your naked eye?

 

[Scott Kane]

Inside of 6" I had to REALLY strain to see them. I would say eye clean, but not mind clean. I can be a perfectionist, so I would always be aware of its presence. She probably wouldn''t notice.

 

[whatmeworry]

Looks great to me.

 

[Scott Kane]

So from what you can tell through my amateur pics (sorry about the IS pic--I''ll try to get a better image), what would be a good price?

 

[Dancing Fire]

Date: 1/29/2010 1:36:15 PM
Author: Scott Kane
So from what you can tell through my amateur pics (sorry about the IS pic--I''ll try to get a better image), what would be a good price?

why don''t you tell us the asking price?

 

[Lestat]

Date: 1/28/2010 9:53:03 AM
Author: yssie
Numbers are good and you can''t see leakage in the stills, so I assume the wonky IS is due to either insufficient/uneven backlighting or dirty diamond.

Could the lighting setup be hiding the leakage in the still diamond shots? Possibly backlighting on the pavillion? That possible leakage ring in the IS is visible in the other images as well, I''d be interested to see what others think.

 

[yssie]

Date: 1/30/2010 4:04:34 AM
Author: Lestat

Date: 1/28/2010 9:53:03 AM
Author: yssie
Numbers are good and you can''t see leakage in the stills, so I assume the wonky IS is due to either insufficient/uneven backlighting or dirty diamond.

Could the lighting setup be hiding the leakage in the still diamond shots? Possibly backlighting on the pavillion? That possible leakage ring in the IS is visible in the other images as well, I''d be interested to see what others think.

Idealscope''s primary light source is backlighting on the pavilion.


The red film in front reflects back pink light onto the crown area, with a small slit to see (you put your eye there).. A good diamond will accept that light, reflect and refract it (though it''s one wavelength so no prism effect) inside *everywhere* and spit it back out so you see uniform red. A diamond that leaks under the table will have a ring of white - red light cannot be refracted and reflected from this area, so leaky..

Two notes: you are looking for red or white, light is not paint so red mixed with leaky = white or grey or yellow or whatever colour your backlighting is, not pink. You are looking for a clean boundary between white and red - there is no barrier for diffraction here. Fuzzy boundaries, light pink vs. blood red, etc. due to inconsistent backlighting, slightly different coloured idealscope red-film, etc.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 1/28/2010 11:59:18 AM
Author: Scott Kane
Inside of 6'' I had to REALLY strain to see them. I would say eye clean, but not mind clean. I can be a perfectionist, so I would always be aware of its presence. She probably wouldn''t notice.

Hi Scott

Concerning the above, she could well notice after wearing the ring. Inclusions can pop out in some lights more than others so I would get an appraisal as regards colour and clarity accuracy and if you decide to conclude the deal, check the diamond out in as many different lighting conditions as possible before committing.

 

[Richard Sherwood]

The report is EGL-Israel, so you want to make sure about the quality, particularly in regards to the color. EGL-Israel is known for soft grading, although they do seem to be tightening up their standards a bit in the past couple years (in my opinion).

Still, before arriving at any price conclusions, you've got to know the correct grading.

I just graded a 2.70 round yesterday that was graded by EGL-Israel as a D SI1. I graded it as an H SI2.

Interesting thing about it was that it was priced correctly for what it was, an H SI2. If it were truly a D SI1 it should have been priced at 50% more than it was.

Still it was a beautiful stone, and the client ended up keeping it.

 

[JulieN]

A little leakage, but nothing too bad. It looks fine to me.

 

[Scott Kane]

Date: 1/29/2010 8:20:46 PM
Author: Dancing Fire

Date: 1/29/2010 1:36:15 PM

Author: Scott Kane

So from what you can tell through my amateur pics (sorry about the IS pic--I''ll try to get a better image), what would be a good price?

why don''t you tell us the asking price?

$5500

 

[Scott Kane]

Date: 1/30/2010 2:01:29 PM
Author: Richard Sherwood
The report is EGL-Israel, so you want to make sure about the quality, particularly in regards to the color. EGL-Israel is known for soft grading, although they do seem to be tightening up their standards a bit in the past couple years (in my opinion).


Still, before arriving at any price conclusions, you''ve got to know the correct grading.


I just graded a 2.70 round yesterday that was graded by EGL-Israel as a D SI1. I graded it as an H SI2.


Interesting thing about it was that it was priced correctly for what it was, an H SI2. If it were truly a D SI1 it should have been priced at 50% more than it was.


Still it was a beautiful stone, and the client ended up keeping it.

So based on what you can tell from my pics, how would you grade it? I know color will be pretty much impossible through face-up pics, but what about inclusions? SI1/SI2?

 

[Scott Kane]

Oh yeah, the diamond was removed from a setting in the showroom so we could look at it loose. It was probably quite dirty as we had been handling it quite a bit before I took the pics. I''ll see if I can get better pics and repost. Maybe the IS image will look better. Any tips on lining the camera up? Or is it just a matter of patience, practice, and persistence?

 

[Dancing Fire]

Date: 1/30/2010 7:24:09 PM
Author: Scott Kane

Date: 1/29/2010 8:20:46 PM
Author: Dancing Fire

Date: 1/29/2010 1:36:15 PM

Author: Scott Kane

So from what you can tell through my amateur pics (sorry about the IS pic--I''ll try to get a better image), what would be a good price?

why don''t you tell us the asking price?

$5500

$5500 is more in line with a AGS/GIA (G SI1 or H VS2) ideal cut 1ct stone.

 

[Scott Kane]

Date: 1/31/2010 1:59:54 AM
Author: Dancing Fire

Date: 1/30/2010 7:24:09 PM

Author: Scott Kane

Date: 1/29/2010 8:20:46 PM

Author: Dancing Fire

Date: 1/29/2010 1:36:15 PM


Author: Scott Kane


So from what you can tell through my amateur pics (sorry about the IS pic--I''ll try to get a better image), what would be a good price?

why don''t you tell us the asking price?

$5500

$5500 is more in line with a AGS/GIA (G SI1 or H VS2) ideal cut 1ct stone.

So for a 1.27ct EGL G SI1 is that good or bad?