WF 2.08 E VS2 vs. GOG 2.23 F VS2 - which would you choose?

[shiney]

Hi everyone,

I''ve been reading this site for more than a year learning about diamonds...has been a great forum. It''s time to make my decision but am having a really tough time choosing between these two stones. Both vendors are excellent.

Here they are:

2.23 F VS2 - GOG
http://goodoldgold.com/diamond/4601/

2.08 E VS2 - WF
http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/A-Cut-Above-H-A-cut-diamond-1050539.htm

Which one do you think is a better VS2? It''s an anniversary gift for my wife

. Cut quality and "eye clean" are my two key traits....which would you choose?

Thanks!

Shiney

 

[ImpatientOne]

They're both gorgeous stones and you really can't go wrong with either, but if it were me, I'd go for the slightly larger GOG stone

How are you planning on setting it???

 

[shiney]

That''s kind of what I''m thinking, the thing that''s making it a little harder is the number of inclusions on the larger stone. As a VS2, it seems to be closer to an SI1...

As for the setting I''m thinking about the Sunburst Solitaire
http://www.mwmjewelry.com/

 

[arjunajane]

Date: 8/16/2008 1:02:11 AM
Author: shiney
That''s kind of what I''m thinking, the thing that''s making it a little harder is the number of inclusions on the larger stone. As a VS2, it seems to be closer to an SI1...

As for the setting I''m thinking about the Sunburst Solitaire
http://www.mwmjewelry.com/

Hi Shiney, I would go with the larger stone from GOG.
I don''t think you have anything to worry about with the inclusions - GIA ia reputable with their grading. But just so you can be sure, have you emailed /called GOG with your concerns? It is very difficult to judge inclusions by pics/plots - best to have someone look at it IRL.
GOG are honest and will tell you if its a fair Vs2 or no - just make sure you are clear to them on what your definition of eyeclean is (ie. no inclusions seen from any angle at close ins[ection, or no inclusions from the top etc). Although there is a lab standard, many people have different definitions of this term.

Good luck, it will be a gorgeous ring!

 

[Cleo]

Stunning diamonds!!!

I would personally choose the larger GOG stone... it really is TDF!

I wouldn''t be concerned about the plot on the GIA report, they usually look scarier than they are, especially with clouds. I have a VS2 with clouds and I can''t see a single thing with the naked eye (and I can spot anything). I can barely see the inclusions with a loupe... so whilst every diamond is individual, I''d be pretty relaxed about it.

If you''re in any doubt, call GOG and ask them to eyeball the stone for you and tell you what they think.. they''ll be honest with you.

Gorgeous setting too.

I can''t wait to photos of your finished ring - do let us know which stone you choose!

x x x

 

[Lorelei]

Either would be great, you can''t go wrong!

 

[Maisie]

Go for the bigger one!

 

[MMT]

I would go for the bigger one. Your setting is beautfiul too. What a great gift.

 

[Ellen]

Date: 8/16/2008 1:02:11 AM
Author: shiney
That's kind of what I'm thinking, the thing that's making it a little harder is the number of inclusions on the larger stone. As a VS2, it seems to be closer to an SI1...

As for the setting I'm thinking about the Sunburst Solitaire
http://www.mwmjewelry.com/

It's graded by a reputable lab, so I would be confident the grade is approriate. These pics blow things WAY out of proportion.

However, give them a call and have them look at it. If you don't want to see anything from any distance, just tell them that. They will be quite honest about it.

I would go with this one too, it's gorgeous and a great size. And in that setting? Be still my heart!! What a great hubby you are.

 

[Lynn B]

Bigger, babeeeee, bigger!!!

 

[risingsun]

Going against popular opinion, I would take the ACA from WF. This diamond makes my heart beat faster. I do like a "mind clean" stone and this one will be white and clean with an outanding cut. Whatever you choose, you will have a winner

 

[shiney]

Someone told me if I am really looking for eye clean diamonds from the side in this size range I should not be looking at VS2 clarity...should be looking at no lower than VS1 or maybe even VVS...

It''s hard to have it all...what do you think?

Shiney

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 8/16/2008 2:03:53 PM
Author: shiney
Someone told me if I am really looking for eye clean diamonds from the side in this size range I should not be looking at VS2 clarity...should be looking at no lower than VS1 or maybe even VVS...

It''s hard to have it all...what do you think?

Shiney

Shiney, there is a distinct possibility that either of these diamonds could be eyeclean to your standards from all angles, the best way to find out for sure is to ask the vendor to check out the diamonds for you, they will be honest if the diamond will meet your expectations or not. VS2 could indeed be eyeclean.

 

[AggieTexan]

Date: 8/16/2008 2:03:53 PM
Author: shiney
Someone told me if I am really looking for eye clean diamonds from the side in this size range I should not be looking at VS2 clarity...should be looking at no lower than VS1 or maybe even VVS...

It''s hard to have it all...what do you think?

Shiney

I have a 2.43 SI1 RB and I can''t see anything from any angle without a loupe. Even with a loupe the inclusions are difficult for me to spot.

 

[shiney]

Date: 8/16/2008 2:29:05 PM
Author: AggieTexan

Date: 8/16/2008 2:03:53 PM

I have a 2.43 SI1 RB and I can''t see anything from any angle without a loupe. Even with a loupe the inclusions are difficult for me to spot.

At some point the analysis crosses over from "eye clean" to "mind clean"...but with the 2.23 the feathers / needles seem to be pretty close to the girdle...have waited a long time but am prepared to wait longer...do you think this is the best we could get in the market right now?

Thanks,

Shiney

 

[arjunajane]

Date: 8/16/2008 3:44:45 PM
Author: shiney

Date: 8/16/2008 2:29:05 PM
Author: AggieTexan

Date: 8/16/2008 2:03:53 PM

I have a 2.43 SI1 RB and I can''t see anything from any angle without a loupe. Even with a loupe the inclusions are difficult for me to spot.

At some point the analysis crosses over from ''eye clean'' to ''mind clean''...but with the 2.23 the feathers / needles seem to be pretty close to the girdle...have waited a long time but am prepared to wait longer...do you think this is the best we could get in the market right now?

Thanks,

Shiney

Shiney, as mentioned a couple of times you really need to take it to vendor inspection from here. You really can''t judge from the lab report, it can be deceptive. These vendors will be able to give you a ton more info on these stones than anyone on PS.

As far as the best in the market, this is a subjective question as everyone will have different purchase priorities - some will value mind clean like yourself, others size more so. Its really just a combo of how the 4 c''s line up for you and your budget.

let us know how you go!

 

[kcoursolle]

You can''t go wrong with this decision, I''d go with the person that has the setting you want.

 

[AprilBaby]

My first reaction was Bigger is Better but after looking at the pictures I prefer the smaller....it looks like perfection!

 

[NeverEndingUpgrade]

Easy. I would get the one from GOG in a heartbeat!

 

[beebrisk]

Whoa...Nice Gift! (drool!)

I think the larger one.

I can''t imagine your wife (or anyone for that matter!) opening that box and saying: "Honey..why didn''t you get me the smaller one??"

Please show us the finished product when done.

 

[moremoremore]

Holy cr*p! Were stones always this expensive? LOL....

I am a simple girl, ya know, so I go for the bigger one...I think your eye would have a hard time tellng these guys apart/finding fault in terms of cut and color....
so then why not go bigger?

 

[Skippy123]

Date: 8/17/2008 5:19:20 PM
Author: NeverEndingUpgrade
Easy. I would get the one from GOG in a heartbeat!

Me too!

Wow, what a wonderful anniversary present!!

 

[iheartscience]

I''d go bigger, personally! And if you''re worried about the eyecleanliness (did I just make that word up?) I would talk to the vendors. It''s hard to tell from magnified photos and/or a plot.