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http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2017/01/sources-report-trump-executive-order-lgbtq-community-coming-soon/

An executive order from President Donald Trump opening up discrimination against the LGBTQ community on the basis of religious belief is expected sometime this week, possibly as soon as today.

Several sources spoke with LGBTQ Nation on the condition of anonymity who have told us that the order will allow for discrimination in a number of areas, including employment, social services, business, and adoption.

From what we’ve heard, the executive order could be far-reaching, and could include: making taxpayer funds available for discrimination against LGBTQ people in social services; allow federally funded adoption agencies to discriminate against LGBTQ parents; eliminate non-discrimination protections in order to make it possible to fire federal employers and contractors based on their sexual orientation or gender identity; and allow federal employees to refuse to serve people based on the belief that marriage should be between a man and a woman, and that gender is an immutable characteristic set at birth, which would impact a broad range of federal benefits.

The order is expected to come in the packaging of so-called “religious freedom,” which argues that someone’s religious beliefs should be enough to prevent them from having to provide goods and services to members of the LGBTQ community if doing so would conflict with said beliefs.

Vice President Mike Pence gained widespread notoriety for his Religious Freedom Restoration Act, passed during his time as the governor of Indiana. He later backpedaled and signed an executive order removing language allowing for discrimination against the LGBTQ individuals.

“The rumors of an anti-LGBTQ executive action by President Trump are deeply troubling,” JoDee Winterhof, the Human Rights Campaign‘s Senior Vice President for Policy and Political Affairs, told LGBTQ Nation in an emailed statement. “We already know that he is willing to target and marginalize at-risk communities for his perceived political gain. As the President and his team plan their next steps, we want to make one thing clear: we won’t give one inch when it comes to defending equality, whether it is a full-on frontal assault or an attack under the guise of religion. Mike Pence should know that better than anyone given his track record in Indiana.”

“The Human Rights Campaign will stand with those who have already been targeted by this Administration and are prepared to fight tooth and nail against every effort to discriminate.”

North Carolina has been on the receiving end of its own boycott over its decision to allow for discriminate with House Bill 2 (HB2), which, in part, nullified non-discrimination ordinances passed by cities and municipalities throughout the state after Charlotte passed an expanded ordinance providing protections for LGBTQ people.

Press Secretary Sean Spicer recently said he did not know if Trump would overturn former president Barack Obama‘s executive order banning anti-LGBTQ discrimination among federal contractors.

Trump has signaled support for anti-LGBTQ legislation in the form of the First Amendment Defense Act (FADA), pledging on his website to sign it into law. FADA would allow for businesses and individuals citing a religious belief to discriminate against the LGBTQ community and prohibit the federal government from taking “discriminatory action” against them for doing so.

Members of the House and Senate recently confirmed with BuzzFeed News‘ Dominic Holden that they plan to refile FADA.
 
If this happens I'm going back into the closet.
I'll tell everyone, "Praise the Lord; Jesus cured me". :appl:
I'll get married to some poor unsuspecting straight woman, and live unhappily ever after.

... making Murika great again.
 
238 years to build this country; 10 days to destroy it. :((
 
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I didn't realize it was possible to hate and be disgusted by any one person this much. And then this as*hat took office
 
Matata|1485820642|4122005 said:
238 years to build this country; 10 days to destroy it. :((

Yep. It is absolutely disgusting.
 
Ooof- I have many friends this would affect.... :(sad
 
kenny|1485820328|4122004 said:
If this happens I'm going back into the closet.
I'll tell everyone, "Praise the Lord; Jesus cured me". :appl:
I'll get married to some poor unsuspecting straight woman, and live unhappily ever after.

... making Murika great again.

Why YES Kenny, I do accept your proposal and the gorgeous Octavia ring that you have offered! (Don't worry hon, when we're home alone I'll let you wear it! :tongue: )
 
kenny|1485820328|4122004 said:
If this happens I'm going back into the closet.
I'll tell everyone, "Praise the Lord; Jesus cured me". :appl:
I'll get married to some poor unsuspecting straight woman, and live unhappily ever after.

... making Murika great again.

Why YES Kenny, I do accept your proposal and the gorgeous Octavia ring that you have offered! (Don't worry hon, when we're home alone I'll let you wear it! :tongue: )
 
kenny|1485820328|4122004 said:
If this happens I'm going back into the closet.
I'll tell everyone, "Praise the Lord; Jesus cured me". :appl:
I'll get married to some poor unsuspecting straight woman, and live unhappily ever after.

... making Murika great again.

Why YES Kenny, I do accept your proposal and the gorgeous Octavia ring that you have offered! (Don't worry hon, when we're home alone I'll let you wear it! :tongue: )
 
So does this mean I can discriminate against heterosexuals on the basis that it's against my personal religious beliefs which are of the church of Furgerburgle??

I wouldn't do anything like ban their business, just charge them a premium on my products. That's fair, right?
 
I like to laugh as much as the next person, but I have really been eclipsed by a profound sense of sadness lately. I haven't lost my resolve to speak up, but the time for a good laugh and let's see where this goes has long past.
 
Like I said a week ago. They will not be happy until we are back in 1950. Just when you think things can't get any worse the Cheeto strikes again. I'm at the point where I wake up in the morning and think what will he screw up today. So, so sad.
 
This is just sickening beyond belief.
 
Dee*Jay|1485825926|4122081 said:
kenny|1485820328|4122004 said:
If this happens I'm going back into the closet.
I'll tell everyone, "Praise the Lord; Jesus cured me". :appl:
I'll get married to some poor unsuspecting straight woman, and live unhappily ever after.

... making Murika great again.

Why YES Kenny, I do accept your proposal and the gorgeous Octavia ring that you have offered! (Don't worry hon, when we're home alone I'll let you wear it! :tongue: )

Oh Dee*Jay, see how you are!?!
I always suspected you were a titanium digger. :lol:
 
kenny|1485827219|4122092 said:
Dee*Jay|1485825926|4122081 said:
kenny|1485820328|4122004 said:
If this happens I'm going back into the closet.
I'll tell everyone, "Praise the Lord; Jesus cured me". :appl:
I'll get married to some poor unsuspecting straight woman, and live unhappily ever after.

... making Murika great again.

Why YES Kenny, I do accept your proposal and the gorgeous Octavia ring that you have offered! (Don't worry hon, when we're home alone I'll let you wear it! :tongue: )

Oh Dee*Jay, see how you are!?!
I always suspected you were a titanium digger. :lol:

Kenny, I believe it is well established that I am both a brazen hussy AND a flaming tart under even regular circumstances, so when there are octavais to be had I have no problem adding titanium digger to the list!
 
Dee*Jay|1485828288|4122099 said:
Kenny, I believe it is well established that I am both a brazen hussy AND a flaming tart under even regular circumstances, so when there are octavais to be had I have no problem adding titanium digger to the list!
You're going to need a bigger t-shirt ;))
 
Dee*Jay|1485825926|4122079 said:
kenny|1485820328|4122004 said:
If this happens I'm going back into the closet.
I'll tell everyone, "Praise the Lord; Jesus cured me". :appl:
I'll get married to some poor unsuspecting straight woman, and live unhappily ever after.

... making Murika great again.

Why YES Kenny, I do accept your proposal and the gorgeous Octavia ring that you have offered! (Don't worry hon, when we're home alone I'll let you wear it! :tongue: )

Now why didn't I think of that?!? :wall:
 
VRBeauty|1485829849|4122111 said:
Dee*Jay|1485825926|4122079 said:
kenny|1485820328|4122004 said:
If this happens I'm going back into the closet.
I'll tell everyone, "Praise the Lord; Jesus cured me". :appl:
I'll get married to some poor unsuspecting straight woman, and live unhappily ever after.

... making Murika great again.

Why YES Kenny, I do accept your proposal and the gorgeous Octavia ring that you have offered! (Don't worry hon, when we're home alone I'll let you wear it! :tongue: )

Now why didn't I think of that?!? :wall:

Can we all have some sort of cage match for who gets Kenny and the Octavia? Because I want in!
 
lovedogs|1485830034|4122114 said:
VRBeauty|1485829849|4122111 said:
Dee*Jay|1485825926|4122079 said:
kenny|1485820328|4122004 said:
If this happens I'm going back into the closet.
I'll tell everyone, "Praise the Lord; Jesus cured me". :appl:
I'll get married to some poor unsuspecting straight woman, and live unhappily ever after.

... making Murika great again.

Why YES Kenny, I do accept your proposal and the gorgeous Octavia ring that you have offered! (Don't worry hon, when we're home alone I'll let you wear it! :tongue: )

Now why didn't I think of that?!? :wall:

Can we all have some sort of cage match for who gets Kenny and the Octavia? Because I want in!

There's no reason we can't all live together! Kenny said he was going to pretend to be STRAIGHT but he didn't say anything about MONOGAMOUS1 Let's horrify the neighbors!!!
 
Matata|1485829683|4122109 said:
Dee*Jay|1485828288|4122099 said:
Kenny, I believe it is well established that I am both a brazen hussy AND a flaming tart under even regular circumstances, so when there are octavais to be had I have no problem adding titanium digger to the list!
You're going to need a bigger t-shirt ;))

:lol:
 
Calliecake|1485826912|4122088 said:
Like I said a week ago. They will not be happy until we are back in 1950. Just when you think things can't get any worse the Cheeto strikes again. I'm at the point where I wake up in the morning and think what will he screw up today. So, so sad.

I don't recall that Trump made a bit issue of LGBTQ rights on the campaign trail - and that he had some vocal and prominent LGBTQ supporters despite his running mate selection. I know, I know, consistency is not Trump's middle name, and he has not discernible "moral" backbone. Still, I wonder if he's one of these days/months/years he's going to blame these first two weeks on others. When he starts campaigning for the 2020 election (assuming he lasts that long), is he going to claim "Stevie/Mikey made me do it"?

I'm starting to see him as more puppet than puppet master. Not that I'm feeling sorry for him or anything...
 
lovedogs|1485830034|4122114 said:
VRBeauty|1485829849|4122111 said:
Dee*Jay|1485825926|4122079 said:
kenny|1485820328|4122004 said:
If this happens I'm going back into the closet.
I'll tell everyone, "Praise the Lord; Jesus cured me". :appl:
I'll get married to some poor unsuspecting straight woman, and live unhappily ever after.

... making Murika great again.

Why YES Kenny, I do accept your proposal and the gorgeous Octavia ring that you have offered! (Don't worry hon, when we're home alone I'll let you wear it! :tongue: )

Now why didn't I think of that?!? :wall:

Can we all have some sort of cage match for who gets Kenny and the Octavia? Because I want in!

Perhaps a caged bikini mud-wrestling round robin at the next JCK PS party in Vegas?
We could market it to HBO!

I'm flattered, really.
But wouldn't you ladies prefer Dancing Fire?
His Octavia is like 40 carats larger than mine ... plus (being straight) he'd have something else for you lovely ladies. :naughty:
 
I don't think anyone is surprised the sexist, racist, homophobic, misogynistic agenda of "making America great" is making America into a country where wealthy white straight men have all the power. I've been hoping Kenny you see this, this is a former racist who has changed his views and now campaigns for equal rights.... I don't think it's just a non educated people who voted for Trump, there are plenty of scared educated white middle class Americans who believe in a nationalistic (white agenda) Warning graphic language;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiZ5KiZE20M
 
kenny|1485830981|4122124 said:
lovedogs|1485830034|4122114 said:
VRBeauty|1485829849|4122111 said:
Dee*Jay|1485825926|4122079 said:
kenny|1485820328|4122004 said:
If this happens I'm going back into the closet.
I'll tell everyone, "Praise the Lord; Jesus cured me". :appl:
I'll get married to some poor unsuspecting straight woman, and live unhappily ever after.

... making Murika great again.

Why YES Kenny, I do accept your proposal and the gorgeous Octavia ring that you have offered! (Don't worry hon, when we're home alone I'll let you wear it! :tongue: )

Now why didn't I think of that?!? :wall:

Can we all have some sort of cage match for who gets Kenny and the Octavia? Because I want in!

Perhaps a bikini mud-wrestling round robin at the next JCK PS party in Vegas?
We could market it to HBO!

I'm flattered, really.
But wouldn't you ladies prefer Dancing Fire?
His Octavia is like 40 carats larger than mine ... plus (being straight) he'd have something else for you lovely ladies. :naughty:

Heck no! I mean, it's obvious that Dancing Fire lives in fear of his wife and she's not one to be tangled with... :? ;)
 
I don't agree with or condone discrimination; and I have loved ones who would be impacted by this as well. When I clicked the link. I also found this; not sure if you saw it or not: http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2017/01/white-house-says-anti-lgbtq-executive-order-not-plan-time/

Press Secretary Sean Spicer was asked by a reporter from the Washington Blade if a religious freedom, anti-LGBTQ executive order was in the works, and he declined to answer. “I’m not getting ahead of the executive orders that we may or may not issue,” Spicer said. “There’s a lot of executive orders, a lot of things the president has talked about and will continue to fulfill, but we have nothing on that front now.”

A White House spokesperson has also responded to NBC News by email, seeming to deny the reports.

“As Sean said in the briefing today – we don’t want to get ahead of the EO/As [executive orders and actions] that are coming, but that isn’t the plan at this time,” White House Deputy Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham wrote.

I realize how words like "now" and "at this time" may be interpreted, but I don't like to react to speculation. I just hope it's not forthcoming.

Related by virtue of mention in the original article: I have always supported privately-owned businesses making decisions about how they choose to run them, and patrons making decisions about those 'rules' accordingly with their wallets. Take PS for example - people have a right to exercise purchasing decisions & religious beliefs, but both are restricted to a degree here by the owners, and we all accept that. Some businesses bar patrons exercising their 2nd amendment rights on their premises, and it's my choice to not enter or spend my money in them. And when people (famous or not) have disagreed with a business practice or law, they have publicly & financially protested that issue, and it's been widely supported.

If someone has a business, and an employee or customer did not respect the owner because he is a gay man, I wouldn't expect that owner to provide whatever service to them or retain them as an employee, though he may also choose to.

What IS the right solution here? Force private businesses to respect all people's rights equally, or let the power of the purse prevail? :confused:
 
arkieb1|1485831084|4122127 said:
I don't think anyone is surprised the sexist, racist, homophobic, misogynistic agenda of "making America great" is making America into a country where wealthy white straight men have all the power. I've been hoping Kenny you see this, this is a former racist who has changed his views and now campaigns for equal rights.... I don't think it's just a non educated people who voted for Trump, there are plenty of scared educated white middle class Americans who believe in a nationalistic (white agenda) Warning graphic language;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiZ5KiZE20M


Yes it is heartbreaking what is happening and I am just hoping and praying (in a non religious way) that somehow Trump and his administration cannot do all the destructive things they want to do. :blackeye: :cry:
 
VRBeauty|1485830910|4122121 said:
Calliecake|1485826912|4122088 said:
Like I said a week ago. They will not be happy until we are back in 1950. Just when you think things can't get any worse the Cheeto strikes again. I'm at the point where I wake up in the morning and think what will he screw up today. So, so sad.

I don't recall that Trump made a big issue of LGBTQ rights on the campaign trail - and that he had some vocal and prominent LGBTQ supporters despite his running mate selection. I know, I know, consistency is not Trump's middle name, and he has not discernible "moral" backbone. Still, I wonder if he's one of these days/months/years he's going to blame these first two weeks on others. When he starts campaigning for the 2020 election (assuming he lasts that long), is he going to claim "Stevie/Mikey made me do it"?

I'm starting to see him as more puppet than puppet master. Not that I'm feeling sorry for him or anything...

Yes that is my thought too. I truly don't know who is worse Pence or Trump but what is clear is they both suck and are both dangerous. :errrr: :nono: :cry: :cry: :cry:
 
When Donald Trump picked as a running mate, a man who put the Religious Freedom Restoration Act in effect, everyone should have run screaming in the other direction.

[In 2000, Pence stated “Congress should oppose any effort to recognize homosexuals as a ‘discreet and insular minority’ entitled to the protection of anti-discrimination laws similar to those extended to women and ethnic minorities.” He called for “an audit to ensure that federal dollars were no longer being given to organizations that celebrate and encourage the types of behaviors that facilitate the spreading of the HIV virus” He commented that homosexuals should not serve in the military, stating "Homosexuality is incompatible with military service because the presence of homosexuals in the ranks weakens unit cohesion" and in 2010 stated that repealing Don't ask, don't tell would "have an impact on unit cohesion." Pence opposed the 2009 Matthew Shepard Hate Crimes Act stating that Obama would "advance a radical social agenda and said that pastors "could be charged or be subject to intimidation for simply expressing a Biblical worldview on the issue of homosexual behavior."]

AND TRUMP VOTERS PUT THIS MAN IN OFFICE. THIS IS WHO YOU VOTED FOR.

So, I hope you are happy Trump voters. And don't you dare tell me you "don't hate anyone." Your vote meant that you were okay with this.
 
Elliot86|1485871874|4122249 said:
When Donald Trump picked as a running mate, a man who put the Religious Freedom Restoration Act in effect, everyone should have run screaming in the other direction.

In 2000, Pence stated “Congress should oppose any effort to recognize homosexuals as a ‘discreet and insular minority’ entitled to the protection of anti-discrimination laws similar to those extended to women and ethnic minorities.” He called for “an audit to ensure that federal dollars were no longer being given to organizations that celebrate and encourage the types of behaviors that facilitate the spreading of the HIV virus” He commented that homosexuals should not serve in the military, stating "Homosexuality is incompatible with military service because the presence of homosexuals in the ranks weakens unit cohesion" and in 2010 stated that repealing Don't ask, don't tell would "have an impact on unit cohesion." Pence opposed the 2009 Matthew Shepard Hate Crimes Act stating that Obama would "advance a radical social agenda and said that pastors "could be charged or be subject to intimidation for simply expressing a Biblical worldview on the issue of homosexual behavior."

AND TRUMP VOTERS PUT THIS MAN IN OFFICE. THIS IS WHO YOU VOTED FOR.

So, I hope you are happy Trump voters. And don't you date tell me you "don't hate anyone." Your vote meant that you were okay with this.

Elliot, I truly think some people who voted for him (and those who chose not to vote as well) did not think it through entirely. It was indeed a poor choice but I can't believe that everyone who voted for him made a clear and fully informed decision. Because if I don't believe this then I have to believe there are so many hateful people in our country and I cannot believe that either. I think many made this decision without complete and necessary knowledge of who they were voting for as President and Vice President.


But yes, for those who voted for Trump and Pence and fully understood what these men stand for well for you I have nothing to say because for those of you with such hate in your hearts where do you think it gets you? Hate breeds more hate. It won't be a happy ending.
 
I don't like to believe that either, missy. It literally makes me sad all day. But with the nonstop media coverage on both sides and just the sheer fact that we live in the digital age meant that this info was readily available.

If you had LGBTQ people in your life you cared about, you let them down. And I hate to be so cut and dry about it because this election has personally caused rifts and pain in my own family.

It isn't always easy or convenient to put your safety and personal level of well being after the rights of others.
 
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