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kathio22

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Well after many months of feeling like my fiance was taken for a ride I am finally at peace with it. See, he is not Internet savvy, at all LOL. So, when I got my beautiful ring I wanted to know about it. I found this website, and I got to learn about my ring. It wasn''t a great buy, compared to what he could have gotten from whiteflash or other websites.

He paid $5400 for a 1.27 princess with .45 baguettes on the side of the stone (one on each side) set in Platinum. My princess is H, SI1, more table than depth. On whiteflash, I can get .87 MM bigger, a G color, and more depth than table for $100 more.

I became quite upset, thinking his hard earned money was wasted. In fact, I became obsessed with it to the point I don''t enjoy the ring. I am one to always get the bang for my buck and I wish I was invlolved with the process for his sake. He tried to surprise me and in the end felt bad that he didn''t "know" about diamonds.

There is nothing we can do about this now, the purchase was made and non-refundable. Even if I upgrade we would pay too much compared to the Internet. No Internet company would upgrade me for the price he paid for the diamond ($4200), we could be so lucky! So was the ring a waste of money? No, not at all. I still have a beautiful ring that will last me for life. I still have a fiance that I will marry in November. I may not have the best quality for the money spent, but in all honesty I would say 95% of buyers have no idea what to do when purchasing a diamond, and mine is damn good compared to others. If comparing at all.

Thank you to all of you that have helped me know my diamond. I am sorry I can not thank those that made me feel like my diamond isn''t good enough, but I can thank those who made me feel bad also made me think deeper...I see the real point here. The love that was behind the purchase is far more richer than the knowledge.
 
I'm glad you made your peace with your e-ring. I don't think he did that bad of a job, although I can't see it, either. I know people have paid the same or more for a whole lot less.

It would seem that he got a good size and didn't get bullied into a quality or color that wouldn't have returned much more personal value. An SI1 can be a great value. Durability was a major concern when I was researching Princess stones. Very thin girdles make the corners prone to chipping.

Congrats!
 
Thank you so much! It is a medium girdle. Very beautiful ring, just not up to par with the price, ya know? Sometimes I think, wow a G color with less depth and .87 MM bigger, holy cow!! The I come to realize it doesn't matter, we are stuck with this, and it is not a bad thing to be stuck with!
 
Kathio, I think sometimes it is possible to know too much. I know that I went through the same thing with my coworker. She had been exposed to my diamond obsession during our search for a stone. When she got engaged, she saw his ring as "too small" and she wanted something bigger.

Mind you, she got a 1ct D, VVS1 princess. Hers wasn't big enough, with enough of a table, as she had fiery sparkles, but liked the white brilliance of my radiant that HAS a bigger table.

In the end, she wanted a stone like YOU have, and the funny thing is, she wanted a 1.25 at least to make her happy. She wears the ring and realizes that her fiance who makes little, worked hard enough for the 1ct she got. In the end we always want MORE than what we get, but the truth of the matter is, it's a stone, not anything more...

Your fiance truly worked for that ring, even if he didn't get the best deal. Honestly, I was the savvy consumer, and my fiance likes to throw his money at things. THAT'S why I came in to help. I love him, but I like making sure we get a "deal"...

I am obsessed now with how much we spent on my ring and am fretting about the whole idea of, we could have a bigger down payemnt on a house, were it not for my ring...

We all worry and want, but the truth is, if I were to die tomorrow I would be happy not for the ring or the downpayment, but for the EXPERIENCE of having my fiance and for his lovely and heartfelt proposal.

It's HIM I love, and the ring, which is STILL in it's TEMP setting, isn't what I want exactly...BUT HE IS! And to know that he did all this spending frivolously on ME, with so much hard work and months of pain to do, makes me just think how LUCKY I am to have found that.

And Kathi, so are you! You are even luckier, because now that you KNOW about diamonds, you can always have bigger and better things ahead (anniversaries, etc) and maybe next time you can both be involved in the process! Also, you are lucky to have a man who loves you so much, and to try to appease you the best he knew how...Either way, that stone is just a reminder of his devotion to you, and that's all!! Congrats to you both and I wish you nothing but the best in life! Thanks for sharing your story!!!
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Thanks you so much Nic, I love reading your posts! I love the white light it gives off, except when I turn the ring a bit it does have "fish eye".

Your kind words and advice are much much appreciated!
 
Kathio,

I am glad you are at peace with your e-ring. As you said, the love of you and your guy are the most important thing.

But I am confused. You mentioned people made you feel bad about the diamond you bought. I had hoped I wasn't one of those people so I went back and looked. Your guy initially purchased from Zales, and got a crappy diamond at a super inflated price. You found PS, learned enough to know he had been taken, and returned the ring for a full refund. After you learned a bit, you posted the specs on your diamond before you bought. You used the AGA Cut Charts to assess the cut quality before you bought. (This was before Gem Appraisers had the DIY system in place.) Folks commented honestly about the quality of the make. Not the best, but not the worst. One person advised you get an Ideal Scope to evaluate the diamond with. Alternate diamomds were offered for your consideration, and you purchased the diamond you have. I just don't get the rhetoric of your post preceeding your comment, "I see the real point here. The love that was behind the purchase is far more richer than the knowledge."
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Huh? Do I have the same member name as someone else or something? I am confused too LOL.

Sorry!
 
Ahh. A reminder to keep things in perspective when searching for that perfect ring! Thanks.
 
Uh - Kathio22 - you have been posting here since November...

And it looks like you did return your ring to Zales after receiving advice from people on this board

https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/great-news.10535/

And then asked for advice on a couple stones...

It's fabulous that you like your ring, however you did work to get a better ring then what your fiance originally purchased.
 
So, are you saying that the orginal ring (subsequently returned) was not from Zales? You were completely against purchasing on the internet & ended up going to a local jeweler for the 1.27 princess cut stone?

I'm confused.
 
Adriene:

Thank you for noticing. Not sure why you are bringing this up?
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Whatever we decided to do is personal preference, and not for explanation. I wrote my post because that is how I feel, no matter what actions happened now, in the past, or in the future, I merely posted how I feel about the whole situation. My reply to PQ was sarcasm, because I simply don't feel it necessary to explain why we did anything.

I see time and time again on here people being given both positive and negative remarks on their diamonds, when in fact, I FEEL as though unless you are buying it for an investment and wanting a return later, who cares about the nitty gritty? Some do and I respect that, but some only care that it looks good and is not too much money for the quality.

I feel as though my post has brought out the mistakes we made months ago when for once can a post just be a post without negativity????
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I always cared about the quality of diamond for the money, and WHY my fiance HAD to do retail (not Zales but an independent jeweler) is between him and I.
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I was just stating that although I wish we could have gotten a better deal on the Internet, we didn't, and I have finally accepted it. That's all...
 
Agreed, Kathio. You are trying to be positive about your situation and I am glad to hear it. Just ignore the posts that welcome confrontation.

Enjoy your ring and be happy with it regardless. Tomorrow may not come for some of us, and you don't want to spend your time being critical about a token of love. Thanks for the post.
 
I am bringing it up because you are presenting a different picture in this thread than what actually went down.

You do not own the original ring that your boyfriend purchased, you returned that to Zales and posted some diamond options on this board to get people's opinions of what diamond you should buy.

You were not quite as noble in this circumstance as you are presenting it in this thread.
 
Excuse me? I didn't realize you were in my life during the time he purchased and returned a diamond from Zales to know that he asked I NOT be involved for the final purchase that he made at an independent jeweler. I initially helped in by getting advice from here, but he felt quite passionate about me not being involved, since you need to know, which explains why I didn't post again for quite sometime. ahem THAT is what "went down".

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On 4/15/2004 3:24:34 PM Adrienne wrote:

I am bringing it up because you are presenting a different picture in this thread than what actually went down.

You do not own the original ring that your boyfriend purchased, you returned that to Zales and posted some diamond options on this board to get people's opinions of what diamond you should buy.

You were not quite as noble in this circumstance as you are presenting it in this thread.----------------


Yeah, Kathio22 - you were the one who put all the information out there. Then, asked for opinions about the diamond. I doubt anyone remembered that you can't return it. Instead, you start a thread spinning the situation that you don't care about the cut, etc. And, as an aside you didn't appreciate anyone saying your diamond was bad.

Naturally, we wondered what you meant & took the time to find out what the situation was. You, yourself, put the information out there. I, for one, was confused.

You love your ring. Fine.
 
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Alright ladies, rectract those claws...

Kathi, I know what you mean. Although my fiance KNEW BETTER, he wanted to make the ring purchase alone. he let me see the stone to OK it, but if I said "no way I want another stone", he still was dead set on this stone he chose. I knew that.

He also wouldn't let me know WHEN he got it and HOW. He tortured me for months saying he had it, but that it was back at the jeweler's for a prong fix or something. Then he would ask if i looked aorund the house for it. It was worse than Chinese water torture!

I understand a man's need to have the privacy and final word in the engagement ring, but still be conflicted in getting our help with it. They don't want to mess it up, but they don't want to look all whipped either. Plus, they like to say, "yeah I found it and bought it for her." A caveman dragging in the diamond thing...
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On 4/15/2004 3:55:09 PM Nicrez wrote:

Alright ladies, rectract those claws...

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Excuse me?
 
Everyone. Not one person specifically...

Ok, I guess this thread has just spiraled.
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LOL Nic!!! He messed up big time initially by going to a large mall retailer but quickly learned and I helped him rectify. I then started helping him find a good stone, but he asked that I let him do it on his own, again LOL, so he can prove he can do it. Well, he did do a good job, not the BEST job but he simply would not listen to my advice to buy online. So when I got the ring and he proposed it was great! I learned about the diamond and thought it could be better...but in the end that is not what truly matters.

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From a male perspective! Cat fights are great!
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On 4/15/2004 4:43:40 PM dpe49 wrote:

From a male perspective! Cat fights are great!
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I thought those went out of style w/ the demise of the "Dynasty" era.
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Now, I'm dating myself.

Excuse me, I must go play in traffic now.
 
"Dynasty era"
I resemble that remark!
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On 4/15/2004 5:04:56 PM dpe49 wrote:

'Dynasty era'
I resemble that remark!
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Well then, I don't think cat fights are as popular today. Kissing is more like it. Though it would be more interesting to see Madonna & Britiney duke it out.
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On 4/15/2004 3:42:16 PM kathio22 wrote:





go play in traffic
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What a mature response.
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