hairgirl95
Shiny_Rock
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Hi everyone
So I posted a few days ago that I was thinking of making a stone change in my ering. The history of this ring is this--
1. I had a 1.5 radiant diamond that I LOVED. Unfortunately, it cracked back in Oct. 07. Thankfully it was fully insured.
2. I took the cracked diamond to my jeweler, who has done all my work on all my jewelry (not a b&m, family owned and operated with a great reputation here in Kansas City.) They found a nice 2.0 ct radiant to put into my ring. It had been an exasperating day dealing with insurance, and the stone was a vs1 instead of the SI1 that cracked. Had great fire and sparkle. I am judging this diamond unmounted, mind you. It is USA EGL certed, but I DID NOT see the papers prior to purchase. My insurance covered the new diamond minus $1500. I paid the difference, they set the stone, and I was on my way.
Heres where the issues begin:
When I arrived home with it, I noticed the diamond didn''t look right in the setting. It looked crammed into a basket and crooked. Thats when I found you lovely people at pricescope. I posted here for advice, and I took it back to the jeweler, and they re-set it and it looked MUCH better. However, there still seemed to be something wrong--I just wasn''t happy with it. Fast forward now to the beginning of December. I noticed at work that I lost a diamond out of my melee. The diamonds are invisible set, so they had to send my ring off to be fixed. 2.5 weeks later, the ring comes back, and it looks like crap. You can see metal lopped up onto the invisible sets, theres not smooth lines with the diamonds, and my new radiant looks crooked. So, I am nice, I wait until after christmas, and purchased a lovely pave setting and bands.
Heres where it gets down right uncalled for:
I take the new setting to the jewelry store to have the radiant put into it. They weren''t real happy about doing it as I didn''t purchase the mounting from them. BUT, they did it. And made sure to tell me that I would not like the new mounting.
Whatever, I walked out with the new setting and I really liked it. I posted pics of before and after back in January and the new setting won hands down.
HOWEVER......there was still something just not right about this ring. I just didn''t like the way the diamond looked. I had higher expectations for this 2ct. diamond. I was expecting more spread than it had. I thought the old mounting was maybe just drowning it out, hence the remount. It did help a little, but in some ways, it made my diamond look even smaller.
So the homework on my end began. I learned so much from everyone here.
I had been getting a really negative attitude from the jewelers (I posted about this before) they love to make you look really stupid. So I pulled out the cert on my diamond. This new radiant of mine has a depth of 84%!!!!! And I wondered why it looked so small. I pulled out the copies of the paperwork I had on my cracked 1.5 radiant. The specs are as follows
1.5 radiant
cracked one)
7.87 X 6.56
depth% 58.8
2.0 Radiant (new one insurance replaced)
7.66 X 6.22
depth% 84.2
I about gave birth to a large hissy fit when I compared specs on these 2 diamonds. I was so mad because I really felt screwed and shafted on this diamond. I paid $10609 plus tax minus the insurance credit for the new stone. I plead stupidity because I didn''t know what I was doing yet (as I said it was pre-pricescope when I got the replacement diamond) but now that I am starting to learn more about jewelry, it really gets in my craw. It became clear to me that the reason I didn''t like this new diamond was because I could actually tell the size difference. I had these expectations of going from a 1.5 to a 2 carat and seeing a larger diamond. But I didn''t see a larger size because ITS ACTUALLY SMALLER (face up that is) than my old diamond.
Okay----deep breath. I posted a few days ago about wanting to make a change to the stone. Its become obvious to me that I do not like the stone, and I am out of options to make it look the way I want to---which it bigger!! So I searched oval and round stones here on pricescope, along with radiants with the same cut color and clarity and printed off the search results. And today I drove my happy self to my jeweler. I told them that I had finally figured out why I did not like my ring, and it was because I didn''t like the stone. The jeweler told me that she knew I would not like the new setting, to which I told her its not the setting, its the stone. I told her that I was not happy with the spread or the depth of this radiant. SHE TOLD ME 84% WAS STANDARD FOR RADIANTS. I got so mad. I struggled to not lose it in the jewelry store. I told her I wanted to purchase a different diamond. I wanted an oval, H-J, VS1-SI1 (as long as its eyeclean) and I wanted a GIA cert on it. Based on my pricescope research, ovals are actually cheaper per carat, and I told the jeweler that I was looking to do this as economically as possible. Not in the mood to line their pockets any more than I have to. The only 2ct. oval they have in stock is K SI1. It did not look like a K, more like an I. Anyways, they wanted me to pay $3000 OUT OF POCKET to go from a 2.0 J VS1 to a 2.0 K SI1. WHAT???!!!! I told them I would not pay that, and I would like an explanation as to why it was so much to downgrade in color and clarity. They told me that OVALS ARE MORE PER CARAT THAN RADIANTS. That contradicts EVERYTHING I have read on here. So I whipped out my pages I printed of stones I found here on pricescope and asked them to tell me why the stones here are nearly $5000 LESS than the one they wanted to sell me. I didn''t get an answer. So they want to "search" for an oval for me that will be a monetary lateral move (they didn''t have a great selection in house) and they are paranoid I am going to buy a diamond somewhere else. I got really mad when they started bashing pricescope and how the diamonds they represent aren''t what you get. I remained calm--while seething inside--and told them to let me know what they find in the next month for an oval stone. I won''t like I was talking to myself in the car the whole way home cause I was so mad and my husband was busy with a patient.
So where do I go from here?? Do other jewelers offer a decent tradeup policy since I didn''t purchase my stone from them? How about the vendors on here? What are their trade in policies on stones that they didn''t originally sell? I really want to go somewhere else where I get a little respect, but I don''t want to shoot myself in the foot either. Please please help me--I really don''t know what to do!!
Sorry for the really long post--just wanted you to have all the facts rather than go searching for my old posts.
So I posted a few days ago that I was thinking of making a stone change in my ering. The history of this ring is this--
1. I had a 1.5 radiant diamond that I LOVED. Unfortunately, it cracked back in Oct. 07. Thankfully it was fully insured.
2. I took the cracked diamond to my jeweler, who has done all my work on all my jewelry (not a b&m, family owned and operated with a great reputation here in Kansas City.) They found a nice 2.0 ct radiant to put into my ring. It had been an exasperating day dealing with insurance, and the stone was a vs1 instead of the SI1 that cracked. Had great fire and sparkle. I am judging this diamond unmounted, mind you. It is USA EGL certed, but I DID NOT see the papers prior to purchase. My insurance covered the new diamond minus $1500. I paid the difference, they set the stone, and I was on my way.
Heres where the issues begin:
When I arrived home with it, I noticed the diamond didn''t look right in the setting. It looked crammed into a basket and crooked. Thats when I found you lovely people at pricescope. I posted here for advice, and I took it back to the jeweler, and they re-set it and it looked MUCH better. However, there still seemed to be something wrong--I just wasn''t happy with it. Fast forward now to the beginning of December. I noticed at work that I lost a diamond out of my melee. The diamonds are invisible set, so they had to send my ring off to be fixed. 2.5 weeks later, the ring comes back, and it looks like crap. You can see metal lopped up onto the invisible sets, theres not smooth lines with the diamonds, and my new radiant looks crooked. So, I am nice, I wait until after christmas, and purchased a lovely pave setting and bands.
Heres where it gets down right uncalled for:
I take the new setting to the jewelry store to have the radiant put into it. They weren''t real happy about doing it as I didn''t purchase the mounting from them. BUT, they did it. And made sure to tell me that I would not like the new mounting.
So the homework on my end began. I learned so much from everyone here.
1.5 radiant
7.87 X 6.56
depth% 58.8
2.0 Radiant (new one insurance replaced)
7.66 X 6.22
depth% 84.2
I about gave birth to a large hissy fit when I compared specs on these 2 diamonds. I was so mad because I really felt screwed and shafted on this diamond. I paid $10609 plus tax minus the insurance credit for the new stone. I plead stupidity because I didn''t know what I was doing yet (as I said it was pre-pricescope when I got the replacement diamond) but now that I am starting to learn more about jewelry, it really gets in my craw. It became clear to me that the reason I didn''t like this new diamond was because I could actually tell the size difference. I had these expectations of going from a 1.5 to a 2 carat and seeing a larger diamond. But I didn''t see a larger size because ITS ACTUALLY SMALLER (face up that is) than my old diamond.
Okay----deep breath. I posted a few days ago about wanting to make a change to the stone. Its become obvious to me that I do not like the stone, and I am out of options to make it look the way I want to---which it bigger!! So I searched oval and round stones here on pricescope, along with radiants with the same cut color and clarity and printed off the search results. And today I drove my happy self to my jeweler. I told them that I had finally figured out why I did not like my ring, and it was because I didn''t like the stone. The jeweler told me that she knew I would not like the new setting, to which I told her its not the setting, its the stone. I told her that I was not happy with the spread or the depth of this radiant. SHE TOLD ME 84% WAS STANDARD FOR RADIANTS. I got so mad. I struggled to not lose it in the jewelry store. I told her I wanted to purchase a different diamond. I wanted an oval, H-J, VS1-SI1 (as long as its eyeclean) and I wanted a GIA cert on it. Based on my pricescope research, ovals are actually cheaper per carat, and I told the jeweler that I was looking to do this as economically as possible. Not in the mood to line their pockets any more than I have to. The only 2ct. oval they have in stock is K SI1. It did not look like a K, more like an I. Anyways, they wanted me to pay $3000 OUT OF POCKET to go from a 2.0 J VS1 to a 2.0 K SI1. WHAT???!!!! I told them I would not pay that, and I would like an explanation as to why it was so much to downgrade in color and clarity. They told me that OVALS ARE MORE PER CARAT THAN RADIANTS. That contradicts EVERYTHING I have read on here. So I whipped out my pages I printed of stones I found here on pricescope and asked them to tell me why the stones here are nearly $5000 LESS than the one they wanted to sell me. I didn''t get an answer. So they want to "search" for an oval for me that will be a monetary lateral move (they didn''t have a great selection in house) and they are paranoid I am going to buy a diamond somewhere else. I got really mad when they started bashing pricescope and how the diamonds they represent aren''t what you get. I remained calm--while seething inside--and told them to let me know what they find in the next month for an oval stone. I won''t like I was talking to myself in the car the whole way home cause I was so mad and my husband was busy with a patient.
So where do I go from here?? Do other jewelers offer a decent tradeup policy since I didn''t purchase my stone from them? How about the vendors on here? What are their trade in policies on stones that they didn''t originally sell? I really want to go somewhere else where I get a little respect, but I don''t want to shoot myself in the foot either. Please please help me--I really don''t know what to do!!
Sorry for the really long post--just wanted you to have all the facts rather than go searching for my old posts.
. I was going to just suck it up, and tried so hard not to think about it. But it overwhelmed me and I finally revealed how upset I was and how very sure I was that mine could not be of the quality the sales lady told me it was. He was devastated to hear all this (and I believe planning to propose this weekend...so now that''s ruined). So we are going to the jewelers tomorrow to see what they have to say about the stone. I fear their reaction will be similar to your jewelers: that depth in the high seventies is perfectly normal. Lies lies lies. Luckily I remember her explicitly saying all were 0''s and 1''s, so if I can get them to admit that this one is not, they may do something that will help me out. We''ll see. Wish me luck. 
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