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Who can tell us (newbie), how much difference are these stores. Any possibility eye clean on SI2 grade?
 
Date: 8/22/2008 10:15:48 PM
Author:zpak1981
Who can tell us (newbie), how much difference are these stores. Any possibility eye clean on SI2 grade?
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There could be but you would need to check with the vendor. Welcome to Pricescope zpak!
 
Yes, it''s possible to find a completely eye clean SI2. In fact, I recently saw an SI2 with white inclusions running under the table. Even after I saw where all the inclusions were under the loupe, no matter how hard I tried, couldn''t spot them with my eye at any distance. 100% eye clean. SI stones must be evaluated in person by a trusted professional as well as with your own eyes, but they can be great!
 
Yes, absolutely possible. The larger the stone, the less likely it is possible. How large are you thinking?
 
1.45-1.65ct will be great. haven''t decided color yet, but sure will be in a 18k yellow gold w/ pt head.
 
Yup, possible. We just got a 1.52 SI2 cushion that is eye clean at every distance and every angle. Even when our appraiser louped it at 10x, he said it took him awhile to see the two small, white inclusions.
 
Yes, a SI2 can be eye clean.
 
what color should I get? I am sure not e and f. I am thinking about I, or J, I just worry about if it''s going to show tint yellow color, or it should be face up white w/ idea cut. Any suggestions?? Help!!
 
Date: 8/24/2008 2:29:27 AM
Author: zpak1981
what color should I get? I am sure not e and f. I am thinking about I, or J, I just worry about if it's going to show tint yellow color, or it should be face up white w/ idea cut. Any suggestions?? Help!!
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Colour is a very personal thing. Many people want only icey white, some people really like the slightly warmer tint that can show in range I - L..
If you do a search here on J colour stones, there are many threads with pictures.

Some people feel they are more sensitive to seeing colour, others are not.

If you choose a top cut stone (GIA triple Ex or AGS000), then no, I or J will not show yellow. It may have some warmth, but personally I like this.
Often it can help to look for stones in "lower" colours that also have medium to strong blue fluorescence (it will tell you this in the listing). There is a general belief that fluoro can help warmer stones to face up whiter.

You can see pics of my AGS000 K colour 1.25 (med. blue fluoro) in this thread if you're interested. In my opinion, it is a very white stone.
https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/my-wonderful-e-ring-upgrade-thankyou.89827/page-2

If you are happy to do so, you can post your budget and range of specs and people can help to find you diamonds to choose from.
hope that helps
 
well, I proberly will try on a J color, and sI1-2 to see if it''s face up white or eyeclean, budget is flexible.
 
Zpak - no one can answer the color question for you - what you really need to do is go to see stones graded by either GIA or AGS in person. That way you can tell what colors you prefer (it would be great if you could take your gf with you to see what she prefers too to make sure you are on the same page). You may prefer warm colors, or you may prefer colorless. As mentioned, it is personal. Although some of the warmer colors may ''face up'' whiter, you will still be able to see warmth from the side when you are not looking directly head on at the very top of the stone (unless it is totally bezel set and hiding the sides). That bothers some people, and makes others very happy (diff shades also look better on diff skin tones too). You just need to figure out what makes you (and your gf) happy. If you find warmth pleasing, it can be a great way to save $!
 
Date: 8/24/2008 1:18:46 PM
Author: :)
Zpak - no one can answer the color question for you - what you really need to do is go to see stones graded by either GIA or AGS in person. That way you can tell what colors you prefer (it would be great if you could take your gf with you to see what she prefers too to make sure you are on the same page). You may prefer warm colors, or you may prefer colorless. As mentioned, it is personal. Although some of the warmer colors may ''face up'' whiter, you will still be able to see warmth from the side when you are not looking directly head on at the very top of the stone (unless it is totally bezel set and hiding the sides). That bothers some people, and makes others very happy (diff shades also look better on diff skin tones too). You just need to figure out what makes you (and your gf) happy. If you find warmth pleasing, it can be a great way to save $!
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Just a slight disagreement - although this can often be the case, I don''t believe it is universal. I know my K is just as white from the sides as from the top (in body colour) - maybe I lucked out? But I''m sure there are others like it out there too..
I just wanted to remind zpak and others reading this to take each stone on its individual merits/features.
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I agree with you on the rest - definately a nice way to maximise budget if zpak and his girl like the warmer colours
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Date: 8/24/2008 1:52:12 PM
Author: arjunajane

Date: 8/24/2008 1:18:46 PM
Author: :)
Zpak - no one can answer the color question for you - what you really need to do is go to see stones graded by either GIA or AGS in person. That way you can tell what colors you prefer (it would be great if you could take your gf with you to see what she prefers too to make sure you are on the same page). You may prefer warm colors, or you may prefer colorless. As mentioned, it is personal. Although some of the warmer colors may ''face up'' whiter, you will still be able to see warmth from the side when you are not looking directly head on at the very top of the stone (unless it is totally bezel set and hiding the sides). That bothers some people, and makes others very happy (diff shades also look better on diff skin tones too). You just need to figure out what makes you (and your gf) happy. If you find warmth pleasing, it can be a great way to save $!
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Just a slight disagreement - although this can often be the case, I don''t believe it is universal. I know my K is just as white from the sides as from the top (in body colour) - maybe I lucked out? But I''m sure there are others like it out there too..
I just wanted to remind zpak and others reading this to take each stone on its individual merits/features.
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I agree with you on the rest - definately a nice way to maximise budget if zpak and his girl like the warmer colours
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Hey AJ - you likely are not color sensitive - the reason a stone gets a color grade is because of the color or tone that is present. If it weren''t present, it would be a D. I have had two well cut Js that looked pretty great from the top, but every time I got a side glance the color was clearly evident. I do love warm diamonds too (I own some myself and have been known to swoon over others in stores!), but for some weird reason warmth did bother me in my ering. People learning just need to know that you really cannot tell color from your computer monitor and color will be seen from the sides even if a stone faces up white if you are color sensitive. That is why I always recommend that it is a good idea to go and see them (GIA or AGS graded stones) in person to discover if you are sensitive - if not then you are totally set, if you are, then you will be able to see the color.
 
Date: 8/24/2008 12:40:08 PM
Author: zpak1981
well, I proberly will try on a J color, and sI1-2 to see if it''s face up white or eyeclean, budget is flexible.
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Zpak, can you go look at some well cut stones to see what your color preference is?
 
haha, actually my personal favor wll be icy white color like D or E, but for this ring I will only consider I-J color with SI1-2 clarity. "she" likes the size and didn''t care for the clarity when it''s eyeclean. K maybe a good choice too, if the price are good.
 
Zpak it is really sweet and thoughtful of you to take her preferences into account. Would you like us to look around for some stone possibilities for you? If yes, would you give us a budget to work with?
 
I think I-J color in a stone is a fantastic value! Even H carries a pretty big price premium. Here are a few stones you might find suitable:
1.53 I SI1
1.53 J VS2
1.55 K SI1

The K has faint fluorescence, which may help it to look whiter in daylight, except that I''ve heard you usually need at least medium for that effect.

Good luck!
 
Max 7k for the stone, max max!! medium blue will be good, faint will be acceptable.
 
will need it before in the middle of september. Deadline will be 9/25/08 (with everything done included setting), help!!! pls~~~ in hurry!~~~~
 
Date: 8/24/2008 2:12:15 PM
Author: :)

Date: 8/24/2008 1:52:12 PM
Author: arjunajane


Just a slight disagreement - although this can often be the case, I don''t believe it is universal. I know my K is just as white from the sides as from the top (in body colour) - maybe I lucked out? But I''m sure there are others like it out there too..
I just wanted to remind zpak and others reading this to take each stone on its individual merits/features.
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I agree with you on the rest - definately a nice way to maximise budget if zpak and his girl like the warmer colours
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Hey AJ - you likely are not color sensitive - the reason a stone gets a color grade is because of the color or tone that is present. If it weren''t present, it would be a D. I have had two well cut Js that looked pretty great from the top, but every time I got a side glance the color was clearly evident. I do love warm diamonds too (I own some myself and have been known to swoon over others in stores!), but for some weird reason warmth did bother me in my ering. People learning just need to know that you really cannot tell color from your computer monitor and color will be seen from the sides even if a stone faces up white if you are color sensitive. That is why I always recommend that it is a good idea to go and see them (GIA or AGS graded stones) in person to discover if you are sensitive - if not then you are totally set, if you are, then you will be able to see the color.
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Hi again,
as per the highlight we are in agreement, please see my advice to the OP above.

But I guess we will just have to agree to disagree on the other part.
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