Validation Report

[walkersareit]

The GIA report has been lost, but you have a Validation Report with the GIA number. How do you verify the diamond in question is the one specified in the report other than sending it off?

 

[MollyMalone]

Does the report you have in hand (a) provide a clarity plotting diagram and/or (b) indicate the diamond bears a laser inscription?

 

[walkersareit]

I am sorry. The report is called a Verification report and not Validation report. It basically says it has been examined and verified as the same as the GIA report. It gives the GIA report number along with the weight, dimensions, clarity, and color. The information contained in the Verification report is the same on the GIA report when I pull it up. If I have a jeweler look at it and look at the inclusions on the GIA report, do you think it would prove it is the diamond in question?

 

[Diamond_Hawk]

The GIA report has been lost, but you have a Validation Report with the GIA number. How do you verify the diamond in question is the one specified in the report other than sending it off?

Hello walkersareit,

I am not sure precisely what you are referencing with the term "validation report"? Can you post an image of the validation report?

If you have the GIA report # (and it is not from pre 2000) it can be looked up online. Then - if it is inscribed - it can be checked. This is NOT always foolproof as inscriptions can be removed or reapplied, but it is certainly a good start.

The best choice is for a gemologist to match the clarity plot to the diamond (this will not be easy in a VVS+). If it is a dossier report with no clarity plot, that makes it very tough. Color and clarity can be verified, table and depth can be verified. If it is a loose diamond mm measurements can also be verified. If the gemologist has solid cut-training they can verify pavilion depth / angle and crown height / angle.

 

[Diamond_Hawk]

If I have a jeweler look at it and look at the inclusions on the GIA report, do you think it would prove it is the diamond in question?

Noted - Verification not Validation, that makes more sense.

I guess this depends on what you are trying to accomplish. If it is to satisfy yourself that this is the correct diamond, that is a different standard from trying to resell the diamond to a friend which is different from trying to sell it online. What is your ultimate goal?

 

[walkersareit]

I found what appears to be a really nice diamond. I would like to be able to resell it. There appears to be a GIA report out there, but I do not have it physically in my hand. I don't believe the number has been inscribed on it. However, would the report say if it has been inscribed?

 

[denverappraiser]

If it was inscribed by GIA, or before GIA saw it, it will be noted on the report. If the inscription was added after GIA saw it, obviously it won't be there.

If you're selling to the public, it almost certainly will sell both for more and faster if you get an original GIA. Especially if there's no inscription. That means sending it in if you've got the time and the budget. If it's an expensive stone, say more than $10,000, it's a fairly big deal.

Is the report you have issued by GIA or someone else?

 

[walkersareit]

It sounds like what I need to do is get the original GIA report, which would entail sending the diamond away. I can get a copy of the GIA report by plugging the number in on line. But if I am reading your comment correctly, you need to have an original. Correct?

 

[MollyMalone]

If you send the diamond in to GIA, you'd be asking them to re-assess it & issue a new report; one needs to send both the original report & the diamond to GIA in order to get one of their formal Verifications. So I'm now thinking that what you have is a print-out of the PDF that appears when you plug the report number into the Report Check search box for their online database of reports dating back to 2000?

 

[walkersareit]

Exactly. I have a copy of a report that was done in 2003. Is a reassessment cheaper or the same price as an initial assessment?

 

[denverappraiser]

Exactly. I have a copy of a report that was done in 2003. Is a reassessment cheaper or the same price as an initial assessment?

Ask 'em. 800-421-7250.

They changed the rules on this about a month ago. The reissue may be both faster and cheaper .... or maybe not. I doubt it on an inspection that old. You used to be able to just order a duplicate report without sending in the stone but they had fraud problems around this service and no longer offer it. Again, if you're going to sell directly to a consumer and you expect it to be expensive, the new report will be worth it. If you're selling to a dealer then the copy of the old one may be sufficient. They can send it in themselves. By the way, if it's a round brilliant, the rules changed in 2006 to include a cut grade now. That's a lot of the reason shoppers like the new ones better (assuming the grade is desirable of course)

 

[walkersareit]

Thank you so much for the information!