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VA: Buy an assault rifle without those pesky background checks? You bet.

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Posted with minimal commentary:
I’m not anti-gun.
I’m not anti-civilians-with-guns.
I’m anti-conceal-carry.
I’m very anti-military-grade-weaponry-in-civilian-hands.
And I’m extremely anti-“actually regulate sale and ownership of killing machines? Meh”.

Disclosure: Daniel Helmer is family. He’s a military veteran, an indulgent dad, and an all-round good guy - this post is to highlight the obscenity that is “gun control enforcement and regulation” here in the US, not to discuss his campaign or character.
 
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Frightening - just goes to show that assumptions about procedures regarding gun purchases are just that - assumptions. I understand that this is a gun show and not a gun shop but who would jump through legal hoops if it could be this easy? Thanks for sharing!
 
That’s it exactly @MissGotRocks! It shouldn’t ever be this easy ;(
 
This is a private transfer that I, as a gun owner, would never do. Always use an FFL to sell a weapon to anyone.

Edit - however this is not against the law. It would be if the seller was an FFL holder.
 
Jeez. this is just wrong.
 
It should be against all the laws.
 
I don’t see how a person would know with 100% certainty that the gun they are buying under these circumstances didn’t commit a crime. This is stupid beyond belief.
 
I am used to Washington state laws. I always forget that not all states have the same as we do. Even before these laws were in place, all of the gun owners I know did things this way anyway.

Link to WA laws: https://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9.41.113


ETA: some days auto correct is crazy... Edited for auto "correct"
 
I don’t see how a person would know with 100% certainty that the gun they are buying under these circumstances didn’t commit a crime. This is stupid beyond belief.

You also don't have super solid proof if someone tries to say it was stolen. Going through transfer & background check means that if anything ever turns up weird in the gun's history, you have a solid paper trail that you did things absolutely correctly.
 
This is a private transfer that I, as a gun owner, would never do. Always use an FFL to sell a weapon to anyone.

Edit - however this is not against the law. It would be if the seller was an FFL holder.

I used to think that if I knew the buyer well, I might be willing to do private (before our state laws were changed) and skip FFL. I never did, thankfully, because I have since learned that at least two of the people I "know well" and are genuinely nice people had felony charges when they were young (like 20+ years ago). I was truly shocked. Just goes to show that you seldom truly know anyone. In something as seriius as the ownership of a firearm, I err on the side of caution and only sell to people I feel comfortable with AND through an FFL who handles background check.
 
I used to think that if I knew the buyer well, I might be willing to do private (before our state laws were changed) and skip FFL. I never did, thankfully, because I have since learned that at least two of the people I "know well" and are genuinely nice people had felony charges when they were young (like 20+ years ago). I was truly shocked. Just goes to show that you seldom truly know anyone. In something as seriius as the ownership of a firearm, I err on the side of caution and only sell to people I feel comfortable with AND through an FFL who handles background check.
I thought the same thing years ago. Actually I have not sold a firearm in years, now I only buy them. :lol-2:
 
I thought the same thing years ago. Actually I have not sold a firearm in years, now I only buy them. :lol-2:

Same! We got rid of everything but the irreplaceable old wooden rifles when DH was out of work and now are working at rebuilding and expanding. (Just not the sort of thing I post here when I pick up!)
 
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