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shinb6570

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If you are reading this, I truly hope that you may be able to help. I am intent on, and simultaneously quite frightened of, buying an E ring. To give some background information, I am currently living in Japan, and the price of jewelry here is unreasonably high and I am a lowly salaried English teacher. Although I have read (and am continuing to do so) quite extensively about diamonds and what is ideal to buy, it seems that the more that I read, the more I am left with the feeling that I am utterly lost about the subject. What`s worse is that I unfortunately don`t know anyone who knows any more than I do about the subject (which is not much). There is so much that I still am uncertain about. Such as, would there be any noticable difference in buying a .6 ct vs1/2, rather than a vvs1/2 if the cut is excellent and the dimensions are in correct proportion? Although my girlfriend will never likely look at it with a loop, one of my biggest fears is that whatever I buy ends up not being “eye clean”, which I realize is such a vague term, however, I am sure you understand what I mean.

Here`s what I do know: I am able to spend about $2000 – $2800 on just the diamond. I would like it to be at least a .6 in weight. It has to be a round shape diamond. It needs to be at least an F in color. I`m planning to buy the mount from Ritani.com. I could buy the rock separate from the setting (from two sites), but I would imagine that any jeweler here would charge more than anything I might save just to set the stone in the ring. I`ll list some examples, but I`m up for suggestions. Any help whatsoever will be appreciated more than you could imagine. Thanks. - Shaun

http://www.ritani.com/diamonds/round-diamond-0-60-Carat-E-color-GIA-certified/D-DDSW5K

http://www.ritani.com/diamonds/round-diamond-0-60-Carat-E-color-GIA-certified/D-VYJYQH
 
Anything VS1 and above is going to be absolutely eyeclean. NO reason to worry as long as you talking GIA or AGS.


NOTHING impacts the appearance of a diamond as much as cut. CUT is king.

You want the shinest whitest and brightest diamond out there: Cut is King. No other factor, not color or clarity or anything else impacts how white bright an shiny a stone is.

What you REALLY need though is to work with a vendor that offers you idealscope images. Ritani does not. Cause that's what you really need. https://www.pricescope.com/wiki/diamonds/firescope-idealscope Many of the PS vendors do. It measures light return. And light return is what makes a diamond white bright and shiny.

https://www.pricescope.com/wiki/diamonds/holloway-cut-advisor
https://www.pricescope.com/wiki/diamonds/diamond-cut
https://www.pricescope.com/wiki/diamonds/diamond-table-size

You need more knowledge before spending thousands on a diamond. Start at the knowledge tab up at the top of the screen.

If you want to skip all of that. Stick to AGS 0 stones only for cut. And then pick your color and clarity.

But GIA Ex is not enough. It's too broad.
 
My best advice is this.

Good Old Gold is a PS vendor seasoned with overseas transactions. And they are a Ritani dealer.

While they do not have anything in house right now that is at D-F VS1, ideal light return, and under $2,800 at 60 points or better they can EASILY get something in for you. And they will give you an idealscope image and all the information you need to confirm performance. You want to just tell them that GIA or AGS. And give them everything underlined above as what you want.

They won't charge you a setting fee because they are a Ritani dealer. And they have some of the best customer service anywhere.

They will help you get exactly what you want and do it all with a smile.
 
krisjon|1391755545|3609852 said:
$2848 w/ PS Discount WIre

.60
F
VS2, eye clean
AGS 0 cut
ACA w/nice numbers (1.4 HCA)
Recent January 2014 lab report

Doesn't get much better than this:

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3045697.htm
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It is a lovely stone.

But he's in Japan. The market there values high color and clarity there as a general rule. If his fiance is Japanese especially, it might be safer for him to stick to VS1 or better.

Plus it's at the top of his budget as it is, and there will be setting fee if he has the Ritani setting sent to WF for setting. Which is what he'd have to do.
 
Thanks for such quick response. I am so glad that I posted on here. I was assuming the links that I posted would be met with much criticism. Actually I do know about HCA and I.S. imagery, albeit not very much. However, even after reading the knowledge section on here (as well as whatever I could find elsewhere recently), it still seems hectic at best making a purchase online, or over the phone. I suppose that no matter how much I read, I still do not feel like I am in any position to safely choose one diamond over another.

Actually, I was hoping that someone might post what thy think is a ideal buy for what I`m able to spend, as you did. Actually, my girlfriend is Japanese, but the clarity and color don`t necessarily have to be that high. The look would be most important to her.

Although I am a novice, that diamond looks quite nice from what I can tell. But it is at the top of my pricepoint as gypsy mentioned, and It would end up being a bit more than I can spend.

The .54 diamond looks great. Maybe something like that is what I will have to end up buying. I was hoping for at least to be able to give her at least a .6, but, maybe that is nieve...
 
Maybe this is a better question - I was hoping to spend $3500 at most for the ring and setting. Is that completely nieve? I beleive the setting is about $7 - 800. I guess it`s somewhat related - most women here wear a .4 ct ring, but that seems quite small...
 
shinb6570|1391757148|3609864 said:
Maybe this is a better question - I was hoping to spend $3500 at most for the ring and setting. Is that completely nieve? I beleive the setting is about $7 - 800. I guess it`s somewhat related - most women here wear a .4 ct ring, but that seems quite small...
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What kind of setting are you wanting?

That is a nice JA stone.

And Julie! You are absolutely right! I keep forgetting!
 
That's a lovely setting. And a very nice choice.


Is your Future FI Japanese?
 
Wow^^ Thanks everyone for all of the replies. I apologize that I haven't been able to respond. I have a couple of questions about some of the suggestions that were posted. Yes, she is Japanese, and I would rather buy at least an F.

Would there be that much difference in terms of light return (fire/scintillation) between the two of these? If it would be minimal or negligible, I think I would rather go with the .6 for the size.

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3019447.htm?source=pricescope

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond....=2800&resultsColumns=268435471&singleResult=1
 
Both have ideal specs and light return, so you're flipping a coin there. Only thing to inquire about is the feather on the girdle edge at 12 o'clock on the WF stone. It can probably be covered by a prong on the setting and isn't an issue at VS2, but it's one inclusion type/location to be wary of. A simple phone call or email to WF's gemologist should clear the air and I'm sure the experts here will chime in as well. Otherwise, it's awesome.

In regards to the GOG stone, if you get a hold of Jonathan/Rhino here on PS. He can send you a video of that H&A stone he has, so you can see it under various lighting conditions. If you go to his GOG channel on YouTube, you'll see what I mean.

Both are exceptional vendors, so you're in great hands either way!
 
shinb6570|1391756858|3609862 said:
Actually, my girlfriend is Japanese, but the clarity and color don`t necessarily have to be that high. The look would be most important to her.
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The .54 diamond looks great. Maybe something like that is what I will have to end up buying. I was hoping for at least to be able to give her at least a .6, but, maybe that is nieve...
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I think size is a factor to the OP over clarity and color.
 
Hey^^ I wanted to say that I really appreciated everyone`s help, especially Krisjon and Gypsy. I was going to go with the .60 vs1 stone from WF, but as it turns out, my girlfriend isn`t giving me any opportunity to propose to her until May (It`s bloody cold out, and because of which all of my suggestions to go to places where I might be able to pop the question have been shot down). But as it stands, I should be able to whilst we are on vacation in early May.

Concerning that ring, actually I did want to buy something that had a higher color, and still had good clarity, however I think my expertations were higher than my budget; it doesn`t seem possible to get something that is at least .6 in weight in anything above an F, whilst having ideal specs and light return AND a realitively decent clarity. However it`s quite possible that I`m wrong about that.

As it stands, unless I were to find something better than that diamond for the pricepoint (around $2500), I think I`ll have to wait until it`s closer to May to make a purchase.

Anyway, if you have any thoughts I would of course love to hear them. But, regardless, thanks again - your time and advice is very much appreciated.

-Shaun
 
No worries. Happy to help.
If you can save $500ish between now and May you can easily get something .6 and E color like this:

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3045693.htm?source=pricescope

Just get back to us when you're ready!

Or if you're ready to do something now, don't forget about this one from before. It's everything you're looking for that's close to your budget now:

$2670

.60
E
VS1
AGS 0
1.2 HCA

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/0.60-carat-e-color-vs1-clarity-ideal-cut-sku-73669
 
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