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RockAndRoll2006

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If money was not a concern, which of these 3 would you purchase. Need to make a decision shortly! My initial instinct is #1...it's a bit smaller and I-color...but it's a Vs2 and likely H+A. WF is giving me a few til tomorrow AM to decide if I want #1. Sorry no images available for #2/3. I was attempting to go w/ an H (but the WF just looks beautiful to me). Love to hear your thoughts!

1. 1.427 I Vs2
http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3096366.htm

2.1.48 H Si2
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.48-carat-h-color-si2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-298025

3. 1.46 H Si2
http://www.gia.edu/cs/Satellite?reportno=2176218964&childpagename=GIA%2FPage%2FReportCheck&pagename=GIA%2FDispatcher&c=Page&cid=1355954554547

Is this a "I have to see them to make a decision" or a no-brainer #1 wins by far? I have opportunity to see #2 tomorrow...but wondering if PSers think I should pull trigger on #1.

THANK YOU!
 
#1 is a no brainer to me.

#2 - dont know the price but its just got to much going in it (inclusions). I just dont like the way it looks either. Something kind
of dull about it even though the angles should play together nicely.

#3 - dont have a picture and its an SI2.
 
tyty333 said:
#1 is a no brainer to me.

#2 - dont know the price but its just got to much going in it (inclusions). I just dont like the way it looks either. Something kind
of dull about it even though the angles should play together nicely.

#3 - dont have a picture and its an SI2.


Prices for all these diamonds would be about the same (within $150).

Here is the terrible image of #3 (I requested better...didn't provide it).
loose_diamond__1_.jpg
 
#1 gets my vote. It's an AGS0 so you know it will perform well. I personally prefer VS2 or better (mind clean issue) so it gets my vote.
 
Thank you tyty333 and CanuckAB.

Update: Well I went and check out #2 (1.48 H Si2) and to be honest...I really couldn't see any of the inclusions with my naked eye. I'd like to think the image above didn't really do it any justice. It didn't look nearly as messy, even with the loupe. I also feel like my untrained eye couldn't tell any negative effectives in terms of loss of brilliance or transparency. Overall it looked like a really nice stone.

I think i've ruled out #3. So I'm down to either a 1.427 I Vs2 AGS0 stone or pay $250 more for an eye-clean xxx H 1.48 Si2.

Any other votes would be greatly appreciated!!
 
I don't think you would be able to see much of a difference in the sizes of #1 & #2. Were you able to see #2 in many different lighting situations? Did it appear hazy or dull in any way? My concern is that it's grade setting inclusion is twining wisps. You don't typically see those like you would a dark crystal. They can have an effect on a diamonds transparency and with the comment "additional twining wisps and clouds not shown" in an SI2, I would want to check it out in less ideal lighting than what you find in a jewellery store. Those lights make any diamond look fantastic, even the dogs. If it was a VS2 I would be less concerned.
 
Hey Canuck. I saw the 1.48 H Si2 only in office lighting. The diamond vendor I went to actually does not use LED lights (which he made sure to remind me of). I would say the room was fairly bright, but not super-ideal by any means. With my untrained eye, it was really hard to tell anything with regards to transparency. If I did notice anything, it would be that right under the table, it looks slightly (i mean slightly) darker than what I'm use to seeing.

I know what you mean by mind clean though. The person I've been working coordinating with over at WhiteFlash surprisingly is the CEO (Debi Wexler). She has been extremely helpful. She explained that this diamond's cut precision will give me a super bright and white I color and that I shouldn't be concerned about that.

Last question, the AGS0 1.42 I Vs2 scores a 2.1 on the HCA...with the idealscope and aset images we have, there is nothing to worry about in terms of it's performance, right?

Getting closer! Still collecting votes!
 
I have owned an I VS2 from whiteflash very much smaller but I can promise you won't be dissapinted in that stone, sure the stone you saw yesterday looks good to you but you haven't compared them, whiteflash has a generous return policy but I'm 100% certain you wouldn't return that stone. For me it's a no brainer #1 you will NOT regret that stone please buy it lol
For reference here is my I VS2 plenty white :) image_1903.jpg
 
Oh another reason to go with the whiteflash stone is the upgrade policy, you get 100% credit toward a new stone at any time forever no matter how many times you trade :) so if you decide later that you want a 2ct H vs2 you only have to pay the difference, or if a h pops up that is only $200 more and you really like it for example you only pay the $200 the other stone I believe you need to spend 150% to upgrade
 
I also don't feel there is enough of a colour difference to go the H over the I however there is enough of a clarity difference to chose the vs2 over si2 :) you may of not noticed the inclusions in the lighting you viewed the stone in but you probably will later and personally inclusions bug me
 
AGS is stricter on cut than GIA. An AGS0 has top performance. You admit that you have an untrained eye so I would highly suggest you go with the stone that has had it's performance vetted for you by a top lab. The price is comparable. As to the HCA score, good aset and idealscope images take precedence. Gypsy would tell you that you don't use the HCA tool on AGS stones.

:wavey:
 
#1,,,better cut, better clarity, better upgrade policy. I wouldn't want an SI2 for an engagement ring, personally.
 
Sounds like we have all votes going for #1!! Think I have my winner. Thanks to all who have helped with the diamond! I'll move forward tomorrow AM sometime.

I'm working with ERD on the setting. Would you ever recommend having the diamond sent straight to them? Or best to have it sent to me first so I can get my eye on it and then send to ERD. I mean, at this point I trust that this diamond would look amazing and fit all specs.
 
I don't think you need to see the stone first. It's listed as Expert Selection & eye clean. I'm not sure if ERD sends the setting to Whiteflash or the reverse. Ask Whiteflash when you call? I'll leave that question to others with more experience on that topic.
 
RockAndRoll2006|1405657514|3715600 said:
Sounds like we have all votes going for #1!! Think I have my winner. Thanks to all who have helped with the diamond! I'll move forward tomorrow AM sometime.

I'm working with ERD on the setting. Would you ever recommend having the diamond sent straight to them? Or best to have it sent to me first so I can get my eye on it and then send to ERD. I mean, at this point I trust that this diamond would look amazing and fit all specs.

Such a good choice you won't regret for a second :)
 
RockAndRoll2006|1405657514|3715600 said:
Sounds like we have all votes going for #1!! Think I have my winner. Thanks to all who have helped with the diamond! I'll move forward tomorrow AM sometime.

I'm working with ERD on the setting. Would you ever recommend having the diamond sent straight to them? Or best to have it sent to me first so I can get my eye on it and then send to ERD. I mean, at this point I trust that this diamond would look amazing and fit all specs.

Great choice! Now you'll never look back and wonder if you bought the best, because you know you did. :appl: :appl: :appl:
 
A little late, but agreed; I would have gone with #1 as well. Nice choice! :wavey:
 
I agree with everyone on 1. Cant wait to see some pics!
 
I would send it straight to ERD but I feel confident its a nice
Stone. If you don't feel confident you could have it sent to
You first.
 
Thanks everyone for stone support! I will absolutely send images of the diamond in the setting once it's complete. I should be getting 2nd draft of CADs for the setting either today or Monday. Will post looking for any suggestions, so keep your eye out. :wink2:
 
I'd suggest having the stone sent to you, to make sure that it is "eye clean" to your standards.
 
I noticed that as well. It seems the one on their website is just more faint...like it didn't scan well. That being said, great idea Ken to have it sent to me. I know it's very rare to have a Vs2 that is not eye clean. I asked the gemologist to give it one last look and then also will have it sent to my place for inspection prior to sending to ERD.

Good looking out KenD!
 
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